Author Topic: Women going to college? (Read 44906 times)

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #170 on:** August 15, 2012, 01:52:28 AM »

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the atmosphere is like at St. Mary's College in Kansas? Thomas Aquinas in Santa Paula? Christendom in VA?

I'd like to hear from someone's actual experience, not projection of bias.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #171 on:** August 15, 2012, 01:56:24 AM »

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I wonder if there is a correlation between the 40% number of those who leave the faith and the rise in the number of girls who go to college

I guess I just don't understand how a degree could be so highly valued that it is worth the risks associated. It is a fact that statistically, college makes people less religious.For a woman who desires marriage, why gamble?

It was mentioned that in today's world, women might need to help supplement her husband's income. The Proverbs 31 woman seemed to do this, but selling homemade/homegrown goods has never required a degree. To take on a job that requires a degree would likely mean childcare expenses. Also, most college educated women do have school debt... this burdens the budget in the first place.

I think it makes sense to ponder why exactly it is so hard to live on one income in the first place. Some of it is political, a lot can be blamed on materialism, but some of it has to be traced back to feminism. If we can at least admit that feminism has negatively impacted the family in at least some capacity, then shouldn't we consider the possibility we are running in circles for the devil? By promoting the idea that women should earn a degree to supplement income aren't we just perpetuating the problem of why families can't rely on one working parent?

We may be called to live in the world, but certainly we don't send kids to public school "just because" or to help them gain social experience. We shouldn't expose ourselves to media just so we can relate better to the secular world. I don't see women's time away at college as much different, if the desire is to be a wife and mother. I'm just not seeing the logic

Trads aren't going to college in great numbers.

But high enough a highly respected Traditional Bishop çhose to write about it, and express opposition to women attending university as a norm?

BTW, I'm feeling a bit guilty for challenging someone to debate the Bishop's opinion. It was really a rhetorical question, not a invite that might provoke an occasion of sin. I apologize if I did that.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #172 on:** August 15, 2012, 02:02:41 AM »

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I wonder if there is a correlation between the 40% number of those who leave the faith and the rise in the number of girls who go to college

I guess I just don't understand how a degree could be so highly valued that it is worth the risks associated. It is a fact that statistically, college makes people less religious.For a woman who desires marriage, why gamble?

It was mentioned that in today's world, women might need to help supplement her husband's income. The Proverbs 31 woman seemed to do this, but selling homemade/homegrown goods has never required a degree. To take on a job that requires a degree would likely mean childcare expenses. Also, most college educated women do have school debt... this burdens the budget in the first place.

I think it makes sense to ponder why exactly it is so hard to live on one income in the first place. Some of it is political, a lot can be blamed on materialism, but some of it has to be traced back to feminism. If we can at least admit that feminism has negatively impacted the family in at least some capacity, then shouldn't we consider the possibility we are running in circles for the devil? By promoting the idea that women should earn a degree to supplement income aren't we just perpetuating the problem of why families can't rely on one working parent?

We may be called to live in the world, but certainly we don't send kids to public school "just because" or to help them gain social experience. We shouldn't expose ourselves to media just so we can relate better to the secular world. I don't see women's time away at college as much different, if the desire is to be a wife and mother. I'm just not seeing the logic

Trads aren't going to college in great numbers.

But high enough a highly respected Traditional Bishop çhose to write about it, and express opposition to women attending university as a norm?

BTW, I'm feeling a bit guilty for challenging someone to debate the Bishop's opinion. It was really a rhetorical question, not a invite that might provoke an occasion of sin. I apologize if I did that.

St. Mary's College in Kansas is a SSPX college. If the Society as a whole condemns higher education then why have a traditional college? They accept men and women. +Williamson's view on women are not mainstream or historical.

Don't forget that long before VII the Church as an institution built the world's greatest universities and yes, women attended. Liberal feminism is irrelevant to the education issue.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #173 on:** August 15, 2012, 05:27:36 AM »

Ah what a shame. According to some women on here there were no successful societies before 1900, since societies did not recognize rights for women back then. :wink:

In all honesty God made the sexes unequal in talent and ability, since the woman is not endowed with the competitive spirit and self-confidence that men have in this world. And just as in nature where the momma bird builds the nest, that is the role of women.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #174 on:** August 15, 2012, 05:29:32 AM »

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Did you ever hear of a concept called self control? Chastity? You sound like the feminists who claim people can't control themselves.

Hmm I thought feminists say men and marriage are evil, while at the same time telling young women to be "swingers" with the fallback of abortion or "the pill."