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Offline Marcelino

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« on: May 12, 2012, 06:55:16 PM »
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  • One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business!  And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff.  Why do women like romance so much?  Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?    



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    « Reply #1 on: May 12, 2012, 07:13:35 PM »
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  • If you'll notice Marc all of the romance novels have to do with the "single woman" having "safe sex" with their boyfriend they have a "crush" on while also having a great career.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 12, 2012, 08:26:49 PM »
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  • Not all are like that.

    Christian romance novels are more in line with moral behavior.
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    « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 12:44:24 AM »
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  • What I'm thinking of is what seems to be the main idea in the 1993 zombie romance comedy movie, "My Boyfriend is Back."  The main character has been obsessed with the same girl, since the 1st grade.  By the time he's a teenager, he lusts for her constantly.  However, she's completely out of his reach.  She's the kind of a girl who'd be prom queen and he's the kind of a guy who could never be prom king, without some sort of "affirmative action."  So, they don't "belong" together.  But, in order to get her, he gives up his life, comes back from the dead and then eats a living person (although technically the guy was already dead, so not murder, but still cannibalism).  The gist seems to be, he's willing to do anything to have her.  The reason that's given for that is that he loves her so much.  That's supposed to make it all o.k., but I keep wondering, shouldn't he love God more, than this girl.  And if he did, wouldn't he be unwilling to do unnatural things to get what he wants.  


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    « Reply #4 on: May 13, 2012, 04:02:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nylndech
    Not all are like that.

    Christian romance novels are more in line with moral behavior.


    Is that true?  Because what I see of romance in our modernist culture is that men are supposed to worship women, like/literally as if they were goddesses.  
    That seems very wrong.  

    I'd like to think there's a right place for romance in our lives, but I think we are far, far away from it.  

    It seems ridiculous, but this seems to be the appeal to romance novels nowadays.  They seem to be appealing to women's vanity, in order to sell books and then, teaching women to be slaves to their pride, which should make them more manipulatable, than a women who is humble.  

    This seems like a very bad influence.  







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    « Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 04:26:33 PM »
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  • I played around with the idea of writing romance.

    My last book turned out to not be a romance per se, but the protagonist did fall in love, if only to be betrayed.

    That book was a tale about forgiveness and revenge set in a dystopian near-future Earth.

    I'm interested in writing to promote Catholic values, even if religion itself is not explored (so like chapter 5 won't be the protagonist praying the Rosary alone in her Mary garden unless it's important to the plot).

    It is easier than ever to self-publish or self-distribute.

    I had an idea for a romance.  The woman is an Irene Adler clever girl-type, but eventually settles down to a trad-approved family lifestyle.

    Maybe the story could be two trad Catholics in love.

    I've never been in a trad parish community though.

    I'll get around to writing sometime.
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    « Reply #6 on: May 13, 2012, 06:43:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marcelino
    What I'm thinking of is what seems to be the main idea in the 1993 zombie romance comedy movie, "My Boyfriend is Back."  The main character has been obsessed with the same girl, since the 1st grade.  By the time he's a teenager, he lusts for her constantly.  However, she's completely out of his reach.  She's the kind of a girl who'd be prom queen and he's the kind of a guy who could never be prom king, without some sort of "affirmative action."  So, they don't "belong" together.  But, in order to get her, he gives up his life, comes back from the dead and then eats a living person (although technically the guy was already dead, so not murder, but still cannibalism).  The gist seems to be, he's willing to do anything to have her.  The reason that's given for that is that he loves her so much.  That's supposed to make it all o.k., but I keep wondering, shouldn't he love God more, than this girl.  And if he did, wouldn't he be unwilling to do unnatural things to get what he wants.  



    What the...? What book is this and why would anyone take 5 minutes of their time reading such a strange story, no offense. :stare:

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    « Reply #7 on: May 13, 2012, 07:17:19 PM »
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    What I'm thinking of is what seems to be the main idea in the 1993 zombie romance comedy movie, "My Boyfriend is Back."  The main character has been obsessed with the same girl, since the 1st grade.  By the time he's a teenager, he lusts for her constantly.  However, she's completely out of his reach.  She's the kind of a girl who'd be prom queen and he's the kind of a guy who could never be prom king, without some sort of "affirmative action."  So, they don't "belong" together.  But, in order to get her, he gives up his life, comes back from the dead and then eats a living person (although technically the guy was already dead, so not murder, but still cannibalism).  The gist seems to be, he's willing to do anything to have her.  The reason that's given for that is that he loves her so much.  That's supposed to make it all o.k., but I keep wondering, shouldn't he love God more, than this girl.  And if he did, wouldn't he be unwilling to do unnatural things to get what he wants.  



    What the...? What book is this and why would anyone take 5 minutes of their time reading such a strange story, no offense. :stare:


    Ha ha!  it's a movie, not a book!  

    It's a simple theme:  sɛҳuąƖ obsession leads to death and it is pathetic (good message)  :incense:.  But then hollywierd puts a scooby doo ending on it, which is supposed to convince the audience that sɛҳuąƖ obsession is the greatest love of all and it conquers all! (evil message)   :devil2:





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    « Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 09:17:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: Marcelino
    One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business!  And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff.  Why do women like romance so much?  Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?    




    Never send a man to do a woman's thinking.  As a former bookseller and a woman, the reason for women reading romance novels is woman are designed to be ruled by emotions and romance novels tug on their heartstrings.  

    When it comes to today's romance novels, one might as well read porn because there sure is a lot of sex going on in these books written to appeal to women. When I first became aware of what was written in romance novels I was appalled that seventy and eighty year old ladies were reading hardcore smut!

    I read my first and last romance novel when I was 12 (no smut then) and was bored to tears.  The plot was the same as all romance novels at the time; boy meets girl, they fall in love, fate separates them, girl is miserable, boy returns and everyone lives happily ever after. (boring!!!)    

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    « Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 11:00:44 AM »
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  • Quote from: Marcelino
    What I'm thinking of is what seems to be the main idea in the 1993 zombie romance comedy movie, "My Boyfriend is Back."  The main character has been obsessed with the same girl, since the 1st grade.  By the time he's a teenager, he lusts for her constantly.  However, she's completely out of his reach.  She's the kind of a girl who'd be prom queen and he's the kind of a guy who could never be prom king, without some sort of "affirmative action."  So, they don't "belong" together.  But, in order to get her, he gives up his life, comes back from the dead and then eats a living person (although technically the guy was already dead, so not murder, but still cannibalism).  The gist seems to be, he's willing to do anything to have her.  The reason that's given for that is that he loves her so much.  That's supposed to make it all o.k., but I keep wondering, shouldn't he love God more, than this girl.  And if he did, wouldn't he be unwilling to do unnatural things to get what he wants.  



    That reminds me of a film that I haven't seen, but someone described to me. I can't remember it very well, but it involved a girl vampire, and a bullied boy who liked her, and she got him to kill people for her. Or something. I can't remember what it's called either.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 11:23:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nylndech
    I played around with the idea of writing romance.

    My last book turned out to not be a romance per se, but the protagonist did fall in love, if only to be betrayed.

    That book was a tale about forgiveness and revenge set in a dystopian near-future Earth.

    I'm interested in writing to promote Catholic values, even if religion itself is not explored (so like chapter 5 won't be the protagonist praying the Rosary alone in her Mary garden unless it's important to the plot).

    It is easier than ever to self-publish or self-distribute.

    I had an idea for a romance.  The woman is an Irene Adler clever girl-type, but eventually settles down to a trad-approved family lifestyle.

    Maybe the story could be two trad Catholics in love.

    I've never been in a trad parish community though.

    I'll get around to writing sometime.


    Hmm, that would be very interesting, you writing a romance novel.
    I can see it now:

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    Once upon a time.

    A man was named Bob.

    He met a young lady.

    Her name was Alice.

    But there was a problem.

    Alice lived very far away.

    Until one day, Alice signed up for an online dating service.

    Bob saw her on that service.

    (and so on)
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    « Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 11:27:49 AM »
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    « Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 11:39:29 AM »
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  • Matthew must have invaded my computer.

    Stole my digital manuscript.

    Only explanation.
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    « Reply #13 on: May 14, 2012, 01:10:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew


    Hmm, that would be very interesting, you writing a romance novel.
    I can see it now:

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    Once upon a time.

    A man was named Bob.

    He met a young lady.

    Her name was Alice.

    But there was a problem.

    Alice lived very far away.

    Until one day, Alice signed up for an online dating service.

    Bob saw her on that service.

    (and so on)


    Matthew, please don't give up your day job! :jester:

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    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 09:34:15 AM »
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  • Not all romance novels or movies are immoral.

    I only watch costume dramas/romances because there is usually no profanity, sex, or extreme violence. I don't watch any other sort of films.  I also love to study about certain epochs and I like how much effort goes into creating the films.

    Also, women generally like to see people expressing love or caring for one another -- it is a consolation.  I am also single and get some vicarious fulfillment from seeing people in love in movies.

    There are some romance novels that have no sex; however, I never look into romance novels because they're mostly pornography.