Author Topic: Women and Romance Novels, Movies, etc (Read 20896 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #45 on:** June 03, 2012, 01:01:32 PM »

I think, if we look at the attitudes on FE, it's not a surprise why the sellout is happening. If FE is in any way representative of second and third generation
Trads, they are very much attached to liberal society, and Catholicism is more like a childhood toy or attachment for them than anything that would ever affect their moral behavior in any significant way.

Marcelino · « **Reply #46 on:** June 03, 2012, 09:43:39 PM »

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don't start Tele

I'm never going to stop exposing dirty dishonest people and sick pharisaic hypocrisy.

....or being bitter and making every thread that mentions women about your own personal problems and hang-ups.

João, the desire of people like yourself and egoveritas to interject has nothing to do with any problems I have.

Rather it has to do with attachment to a culture that supports lies and hypocrisy in women. If you still post on fisheaters, that's exactly what you support. A disgusting cultural marxist parody of Catholic traditionalism.

The culture is in the gutter but it's more important for scuмmy people to treat me as a freak for having liked a young woman (who gave me ample encouragement) and having been kicked out of church for simply wanting a chance to talk to her.

Cheryl · « **Reply #47 on:** June 04, 2012, 10:27:14 AM »

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I agree that the spiritual element is lacking in the Jane Austen books. It took me a few years of reading them off and on to catch onto that fact ..(I was a new Catholic) and that the ministers in the stories were often objects of amusement and mockery.

Maybe Miss Austen made the minister characters in the novels "objects of amusement and mockery" because she knew firsthand the lives of Anglican ministers of the Regency. After all, she was a minister's daughter and the family spinster. Her novels were her way of letting the rest of the world see what the upper classes of her time were really like.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #48 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:47:33 PM »

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One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business! And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff. Why do women like romance so much? Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?

The free-masons knew they could not destroy the Church through reason or logic so they sought to destroy her through the weakness of our fallen human nature - corruption. Thus, the sleazy magazine covers plastered all over place for the view of children and all who dare to shop for groceries. The "romance" appeals to our proneness to gossip and our unhealthy curiosity about things that are none of our business plus it "legitimatizes" or normalizes the evil of sex outside of the sacred marriage bond. Show more and more flesh, have more and more illicit sex, then the "need" for contraception, then abortion, infidelity, divorce and remarriage. Hey the Church is against all this. Yeah it is. Who needs it? Not those who have been secretly programmed to be sɛҳuąƖly depraved for the entirety of their lives through the media at every turn. No siree. The secret puppet masters have pulled the strings masterfully.

MrsZ · « **Reply #49 on:** June 04, 2012, 05:27:03 PM »

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I agree that the spiritual element is lacking in the Jane Austen books. It took me a few years of reading them off and on to catch onto that fact ..(I was a new Catholic) and that the ministers in the stories were often objects of amusement and mockery.

Maybe Miss Austen made the minister characters in the novels "objects of amusement and mockery" because she knew firsthand the lives of Anglican ministers of the Regency. After all, she was a minister's daughter and the family spinster. Her novels were her way of letting the rest of the world see what the upper classes of her time were really like.

Very good point!

Marcelino · « **Reply #50 on:** June 04, 2012, 10:33:56 PM »

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One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business! And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff. Why do women like romance so much? Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?

The free-masons knew they could not destroy the Church through reason or logic so they sought to destroy her through the weakness of our fallen human nature - corruption. Thus, the sleazy magazine covers plastered all over place for the view of children and all who dare to shop for groceries. The "romance" appeals to our proneness to gossip and our unhealthy curiosity about things that are none of our business plus it "legitimatizes" or normalizes the evil of sex outside of the sacred marriage bond. Show more and more flesh, have more and more illicit sex, then the "need" for contraception, then abortion, infidelity, divorce and remarriage. Hey the Church is against all this. Yeah it is. Who needs it? Not those who have been secretly programmed to be sɛҳuąƖly depraved for the entirety of their lives through the media at every turn. No siree. The secret puppet masters have pulled the strings masterfully.

Oh yeah, agree with that. It's tyranny.

All this renders people slaves to their passions, which makes them easy to manipulate, because they just act on impulse, not reason.

Of course, if we can indulge our passions, with no regard for morality, then why can't wall street and washington? So, forget about business and political leaders acting in the public good; they look out for themselves and can say to the people, well, wouldn't you do the same?

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #51 on:** June 05, 2012, 05:49:20 AM »

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One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business! And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff. Why do women like romance so much? Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?

The free-masons knew they could not destroy the Church through reason or logic so they sought to destroy her through the weakness of our fallen human nature - corruption. Thus, the sleazy magazine covers plastered all over place for the view of children and all who dare to shop for groceries. The "romance" appeals to our proneness to gossip and our unhealthy curiosity about things that are none of our business plus it "legitimatizes" or normalizes the evil of sex outside of the sacred marriage bond. Show more and more flesh, have more and more illicit sex, then the "need" for contraception, then abortion, infidelity, divorce and remarriage. Hey the Church is against all this. Yeah it is. Who needs it? Not those who have been secretly programmed to be sɛҳuąƖly depraved for the entirety of their lives through the media at every turn. No siree. The secret puppet masters have pulled the strings masterfully.

Oh yeah, agree with that. It's tyranny.

All this renders people slaves to their passions, which makes them easy to manipulate, because they just act on impulse, not reason.

Of course, if we can indulge our passions, with no regard for morality, then why can't wall street and washington? So, forget about business and political leaders acting in the public good; they look out for themselves and can say to the people, well, wouldn't you do the same?

Well put!

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #52 on:** June 05, 2012, 07:14:03 AM »

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One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business! And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff. Why do women like romance so much? Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?

When I look at people's marriages I see that it is the emotional needs of women and the physical needs of men that is usually not fulfilled. A man scoffs at his wife's desire for kind words, hugs and gifts and the woman likewise is disgusted by her husband telling her to wear more make-up, be always on the mood etc.

A man says:" I am working hard. it means that I love you, why do you want to hear it everyday? actions matter not words."
A woman says: "I am giving you my heart, why do you care about my hair color? our hearts matter, not my appearance."
Then after a great fight, they each go to a separate bedroom, shutting the door behind themselves. the man to his p o r n movies and the woman to her lovely novels. each one finding what they don't receive, each one fulfilling a wish that was ridiculed by the other.

Marcelino · « **Reply #53 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:11:08 PM »

Nowadays, when it comes to dating, most people say, the number one thing they look for in the other is charm. This comes from either gender. In other word, if people are telling the truth, charm trumps everything and by a mile, at least.

What is charm or perhaps a more correct term is charisma?

Lets ignore the theological definition for the moment. Although, I think it is probably relevant.

According to Max Weber (Weber's main intellectual concern was understanding the processes of rationalisation, secularization, and "disenchantment" that he associated with the rise of capitalism and modernity.)

"Charisma is a certain quality of an individual personality by virtue of which he is set apart from ordinary men and treated as endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least specifically exceptional powers or qualities. These are such as are not accessible to the ordinary person, but are regarded as of divine origin or as exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual concerned is treated as a leader"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/72/Superman.jpg/250px-Superman.jpg

Marcelino · « **Reply #54 on:** June 05, 2012, 03:31:18 PM »

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/81/SuperwomanLoisLane.PNG/200px-SuperwomanLoisLane.PNG

Marcelino · « **Reply #55 on:** June 05, 2012, 04:11:19 PM »

I think the song from the rock band Poison, "Something to believe in" expresses some of the thoughts and feelings of the times Max Weber was interested in. We live in that era noted for: the rise of capitalism, empire and a loss of faith. The actual line in the song is, "I give me something to believe in" and it is first expressed as he looks at his own reflection in a mirror, after a profound and sad event has occurred.

http://crocmusic.com/track/490189/poison/something_to_believe_in/

"...in Greek mythology (narcissus) was a hunter from the territory of Thespiae in Boeotia who was renowned for his beauty. He was exceptionally proud, in that he disdained those who loved him. Nemesis saw this and attracted Narcissus to a pool where he saw his own reflection in the water and fell in love with it, not realizing it was merely an image. Unable to leave the beauty of his reflection, Narcissus died."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Michelangelo_Caravaggio_065.jpg/250px-Michelangelo_Caravaggio_065.jpg

wallflower · « **Reply #56 on:** June 05, 2012, 04:29:12 PM »

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One trip to the grocery store should convince you, romance is big business! And it isn't men who are buying most of this stuff. Why do women like romance so much? Are they being helped by it or is it just another expression of an economy guided by immorality?

When I look at people's marriages I see that it is the emotional needs of women and the physical needs of men that is usually not fulfilled. A man scoffs at his wife's desire for kind words, hugs and gifts and the woman likewise is disgusted by her husband telling her to wear more make-up, be always on the mood etc.

A man says:" I am working hard. it means that I love you, why do you want to hear it everyday? actions matter not words."
A woman says: "I am giving you my heart, why do you care about my hair color? our hearts matter, not my appearance."
Then after a great fight, they each go to a separate bedroom, shutting the door behind themselves. the man to his p o r n movies and the woman to her lovely novels. each one finding what they don't receive, each one fulfilling a wish that was ridiculed by the other.

That is actually a very balanced and accurate description of many unfortunate relationships. Great post spouse.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #57 on:** June 05, 2012, 04:30:47 PM »

Actually it is one of the most trite posts she's ever made. But she's still infinitely more traditional than 99.9% of Americans.

ora pro me · « **Reply #58 on:** June 06, 2012, 12:19:29 AM »

Infinitely??? 99.9%???? Tele, you're making me worry more than usual about you!

Get a grip, man!

Marcelino · « **Reply #59 on:** June 06, 2012, 12:29:15 AM »

I feel like I'm being "connivingly baited into a discussion or argument," must resist, can't, it's too strong, no I must,