I'm starting from the assumption that the traditional ideal of university education is rarely suitable for women.  Given this premise, what should a woman do who comes to tradition after receiving such an education?  Should she try to hide it?  Should she try to use it in God's service in some way?  Is there something she ought to do to counteract its bad influence?  What do you all think?

I'm starting from the assumption that the traditional ideal of university education is rarely suitable for women.  Given this premise, what should a woman do who comes to tradition after receiving such an education?  Should she try to hide it?  Should she try to use it in God's service in some way?  Is there something she ought to do to counteract its bad influence?  What do you all think?

Eh, I think  that the problem with secondary education is not the education itself, but rather the secular environment in which it's delivered today.  All Catholics should, wherever possible, avoid the collegiate route or limit one's exposure to those classes which are absolutely necessary to get one's degree.  One can ask around campus, find out which professors have a reputation for being overtly liberal or antagonistic to Christianity, and avoid taking classes.  That said, if a woman is planning to fulfill the traditional role of her gender as homemaker, I don't feel that a higher education is strictly necessary, or even helpful.  On the other hand though, there's absolutely nothing wrong with educating oneself in whatever discipline one finds interesting.  The cultivation of one's God-given intellect is a wonderful thing.

If a woman has a secondary education (I do not count such things as business or post-Regency English literature degrees), she need not hide it.  Many men, myself included, find an intelligent woman to be very attractive.  The only caution I would have is that many educated women, especially in scientific circles, often suffer crippling insecurity.  Even in this overly feminized society, the sciences are dominated by males and women often feel the need to debate to prove that they're just as intelligent or good at their profession as men.  If such a woman comes to the traditional Catholic faith, she must learn to embrace the meekness that is exemplified by our Immaculate Queen and submit to her husband's judgement where it does not place her in danger of sin.

Well I'm glad all of the "Traditionalists" on here have no problem with "rights" for women. :rolleyes:

Since we've already accepted women having jobs and going to college why don't we just accept women having the right to kill their children and to stop the births of children, since those are rights for women as well.

Of course everything I mentioned is unnatural.

Well I'm glad all of the "Traditionalists" on here have no problem with "rights" for women. :rolleyes:

Since we've already accepted women having jobs and going to college why don't we just accept women having the right to kill their chjildren and to stop the births of children, since those are rights for women as well.
 

 :confused1:   I do not understand how you are getting that from any of the posts in this thread.  

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Should she try to use it in God's service in some way?

Yes, presuming doing so doesn't interfere with her primary duties of state.

One must be careful, though, not to use this "line" as justification for something which isn't really a good thing for her to do in the first place.

I think I understand.  For example, it would not be good to put a woman in a position of authority over men just because she had some sort of degree.  Is that what you are saying?

Belloc said:

"John, I too am not threatened by educated women, the pitfalls you note well.
Esp in todays world, with men dying, running off or none in sight for a good Catholic women to consider-same for men, I know-a woman has to make a living. Think Dr. Mola......if my spelling is holding up......."

John Grey said:

"If a woman has a secondary education she should not hide it...[considering you meant getting a degree I assume you mean post-secondary education]...many men find intelligent women to be attractive."

Does that answer your question?

OK. I understand your objection now, although I don't think that anyone was describing jobs and education as rights.

I know many plain women who are very intelligent but they don't have a formal education past the 8th grade.  I guess I don't see the connection between intelligence and higher ed.

For example, a widow is allowed to have a job to support herself and her children.

In a moral society the state would provide for her.