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Author Topic: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man  (Read 8468 times)

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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2018, 07:41:12 AM »
 I don't see Blessed Mary being disobedient to St. Joseph's directions before they were married.

 women put on a facade before they're married, and once the marriage occurs, their true wicked nature is revealed. The evidence is in the high occurrence of divorce in these latter days, and the man being robbed of almost everything he owns. 
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1. I don't remember st. Joseph telling the Blessed Mother to do anything before they were married.
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2. Men put on a facade, too, and, once married, their true nature comes out.  Would a sane woman marry a man if she knows he will abuse her?  No.
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3. It seems to me men frequently divorce to "trade in for a newer model".  Hence the term "mid life crisis".  This instance is solely the fault of the man.  
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4. I have not seen that the "man is robbed of almost everything he owns".  I have seen negotiations and splitting of assets, no matter whose fault the divorce is.
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What it boils down to is that Satan is everywhere and will attack any time.  This is the reason for the highest divorce rate of all time.  
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We must always pray and be on guard.  We must love and support one another, especially in marriage, understanding one another's faults and still loving the person. 
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Most importantly we must remember that God takes care of all of us, even when we fall to satan, as long as we pick ourselves up, have remorse, and try again.

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2018, 07:43:00 AM »
With all of the great traditional Catholic sermons concerning marriage one can easily find on the internet, I find it disturbing that a Catholic would seek religious counsel from "Pastor Dowell" of Youtube.
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You are spot on.


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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2018, 09:26:01 AM »
women put on a facade before they're married, and once the marriage occurs, their true wicked nature is revealed. The evidence is in the high occurrence of divorce in these latter days, and the man being robbed of almost everything he owns. This is why a prenuptial agreement is necessary to protect the man.

Anyone who is a good judge of character and knows the woman enough to marry her can see through facades very easily.  So the high divorce rate is evidence of the wickedness of women?  How utterly preposterous.  So there's never been a man at fault in a divorce.  No, I am not a feminist ... except in the eyes of an overt misogynist such as yourself.  I hope that you don't intend to marry ... because it's not going to end well.  I'd put money in it right now that if (or, rather, when) your marriage ultimately breaks down, your misogynist attitudes manifesting themselves will have been to blame.

Women by nature WANT TO AND ARE INCLINED TO FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THEIR HUSBANDS.  And they WILL follow their husbands unless the husband fails in leadership.  You see, the husband is the head and the leader in a marriage, and therefore the buck stops with him, and he's ultimately responsible for the breakdown of the marriage.  That kind of authority cuts both ways.  True leaders take responsibility for the failures of their organization (in this case family) and don't blame their underlings.  If you were working as a business leader in a company, and your group fails, your boss isn't going to listen to you whining about how your subordinates failed.  It is YOU who failed and it is YOU who will be held accountable.  Your boss won't fire your subordinates.  He'll fire you.  Similarly, if a man's marriage breaks down, HE is the one accountable for it before God.  If you don't accept this, then it is you who are unmanly and a feminist.  You will be mocked and scorned by your superiors if you effeminately point the finger at your subordinates.  Man up and assume the responsibility (and consequences) for YOUR FAILED LEADERSHIP.

I love it how you insist on the benefits of leadership, i.e. being able to boss people around and subject them to your will, but refuse to accept the responsibilities and accountability that come with it.  YOU as the husband are accountable for the success or failure of your family, and a true man will take ownership of this.  If anyone needs to man up, it's you.  If a woman leaves you, then it is YOUR failure, whether in having chosen poorly or having failed to lead and to love as you needed to in order to keep your family intact.  That is the attitude of a true leader and a true man, little boy.

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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2018, 09:46:48 AM »
God didn't let Adam off the hook on account of "it's the woman's fault".

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2018, 09:57:37 AM »
The SSPX Priests obey the civil laws that ask couples apply for a marriage license. The only Priests that will cooperate with a couple that wants to refuse the license are some resistance or independant Priests (perhaps some sede not sure)
I know a resistance Priest that married some friends of mine and they did not want a marriage license. The Priest was fine with it. However, now that they have children, taxes have been a challenge for them because she is a stay at home mom with no income. Plus medical insurance has also been a problem for them.
I can’t say they regret their decision because I haven’t asked, but they have expressed to me many difficulties with not having one.
This. Not getting a marriage license (or as in another thread, birth certificate and SSN for any future children) greatly complicates everything. Do not make things infinitely more difficult because an apostate pastor who thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread told you to.

Croix, please do not get married right now. You have the most puerile attitudes about women that I've ever seen. 

That, and in recent years, we've progressed as a society and made child marriage illegal.