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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2018, 05:26:22 PM »
Wrong analysis. If a woman truly loves the man who loves her and is considering marrying her, she will obey his request to get a prenuptial agreement. It's that simple.

No, you're wrong.  "Obedience" isn't the right term.  You could argue ... and I would disagree ... but you could argue that she should "accede" to his wishes if she loves him.  But a state of "obedience" doesn't exist before marriage.  I could see a woman being reasonably suspicious of a man's motives and attitudes with regard to such a request:  "What, is he making plans for bailing out on the marriage?" or "Does he not trust me?"  I know my own wife and know that she would NEVER leave me without just cause (i.e., Catholic grounds for separation).  If you don't know someone well enough to be able to know these things, then you probably shouldn't get married.  Can someone take a turn unexpectedly?  Sure, that can happen.  But it's rare.  Usually the signs are there right from the beginning ... if you're any judge of people.

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2018, 06:27:39 PM »
I suspect most couples getting married in a Catholic Church do not know they have that option, hence it would not cross either future spouse or future wife mind.  Nor have I ever heard it to be an option.
The SSPX Priests obey the civil laws that ask couples apply for a marriage license. The only Priests that will cooperate with a couple that wants to refuse the license are some resistance or independant Priests (perhaps some sede not sure) 
I know a resistance Priest that married some friends of mine and they did not want a marriage license. The Priest was fine with it. However, now that they have children, taxes have been a challenge for them because she is a stay at home mom with no income. Plus medical insurance has also been a problem for them. 
I can’t say they regret their decision because I haven’t asked, but they have expressed to me many difficulties with not having one. 


Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2018, 11:43:36 PM »
But a state of "obedience" doesn't exist before marriage.  
Yes, it does. If a woman truly loves a man, she will be obedient to his direction even before they get married, as long as his directions aren't sinful nor put her in positive danger. I don't see Blessed Mary being disobedient to St. Joseph's directions before they were married.


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I could see a woman being reasonably suspicious of a man's motives and attitudes with regard to such a request:  "What, is he making plans for bailing out on the marriage?" or "Does he not trust me?"  
That's because you've been heavily indoctrinated with feminism. You can't see it. It's deep. You need to deprogram yourself.


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I know my own wife and know that she would NEVER leave me without just cause (i.e., Catholic grounds for separation).
Oh, foolish one. You know nothing. The disciple Peter was MOST CERTAIN he would stand by Christ all the way through his apprehension, interrogation, beating & Crucifixion. Peter cowered despite his knowing, and he pretended to not be a follower of Christ in order to escape harm by the Jews.


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Can someone take a turn unexpectedly?  Sure, that can happen.  But it's rare.  
:laugh1:  This is blatant dishonesty to add weight to your argument. Even if it were true (which it's not), your point actually fortifies my argument that women put on a facade before they're married, and once the marriage occurs, their true wicked nature is revealed. The evidence is in the high occurrence of divorce in these latter days, and the man being robbed of almost everything he owns. This is why a prenuptial agreement is necessary to protect the man.

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2018, 07:20:18 AM »
With all of the great traditional Catholic sermons concerning marriage one can easily find on the internet, I find it disturbing that a Catholic would seek religious counsel from "Pastor Dowell" of Youtube.

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2018, 07:23:31 AM »
With all of the great traditional Catholic sermons concerning marriage one can easily find on the internet, I find it disturbing that a Catholic would seek religious counsel from "Pastor Dowell" of Youtube.
Well, Pastor Dowell has been gracing our forum for days now.   :P