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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2018, 12:39:55 PM »
Wrong. Couples can opt out of the "automatic state license process" by demanding the priest not submit anything to the state . Also, in many states, it's a separate process. In my state, a couple can get a state marriage license without going through a religious ritual conferring marriage.
The way it works where I am is that a couple can get a state marriage license without a religious ceremony, but it is not possible to have a Catholic wedding without it automatically including a state license.  No priest would accede to demands not to submit anything to the state because he would then lose his ability to perform marriages that include a license.  Even if one found a priest willing to do that, I doubt his bishop would allow it.

Even if both man and woman wanted a Catholic wedding without a state license, in many (most?) jurisdictions they could not do it.  I suspect any claims about women insisting on a state license are based on the "pastor's" experience with non-Catholics.  I strongly doubt it applies to Catholics.  I have never heard of this being an issue for Catholic couples.

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2018, 12:55:11 PM »
No priest would accede to demands not to submit anything to the state because he would then lose his ability to perform marriages that include a license.

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Even if one found a priest willing to do that, I doubt his bishop would allow it.

Wrong.


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Even if both man and woman wanted a Catholic wedding without a state license, in many (most?) jurisdictions they could not do it.

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I strongly doubt it applies to Catholics.  I have never heard of this being an issue for Catholic couples.

Wrong, but even if it were true, I'm going to change that lack of awareness.


Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2018, 12:58:28 PM »
Wrong. Couples can opt out of the "automatic state license process" by demanding the priest not submit anything to the state . Also, in many states, it's a separate process. In my state, a couple can even get a state marriage license without going through any religious ritual conferring marriage.
I suspect most couples getting married in a Catholic Church do not know they have that option, hence it would not cross either future spouse or future wife mind.  Nor have I ever heard it to be an option.
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Of course the couple can get married by the state directly.  Is a "religious ritual" not needed in your opinion?

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2018, 01:09:21 PM »
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No priest would accede to demands not to submit anything to the state because he would then lose his ability to perform marriages that include a license.
Wrong.
That is definitely how it works here because we tried to do it and that is why the priest told us he wouldn't.

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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2018, 05:22:19 PM »
That is definitely how it works here because we tried to do it and that is why the priest told us he wouldn't.

That's what I have heard as well ... from a couple of priests in my state.