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Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2018, 01:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2018, 01:31:42 AM
How is it taken out of context? He even clarified that man should love his wife, even when man shouldn't entrust everything to his wife. He said that just because you don't entrust everything to her, doesn't mean you don't love her. To not entrust everything to her is an aegis to whatever the wife might bring against the husband, if she were to turn against him like most women do against their husbands in these latter days.  
The prophet was lamenting how things were at the time & place where he was. He had lost all hope in anything holy remaining among the people: "now shall be their destruction."
Consequently, no was was to be trusted. Not man-wife, father-son, nor mother-daughter.
Now, if you believe that we are now as bad as they were then, the logical conclusion would be to not marry at all. Entertaining the idea of marriage suggests that there is the possibility of finding holiness among the people of this place and time. And, therefore, the suggestion to, as a rule, not trust even those within your household would not apply.
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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2018, 01:58:33 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2018, 01:31:42 AM
No, he hit another homerun. The point of me posting it is to fortify the points made in the other videos about the need for man to get a prenuptial agreement and avoid a state marriage license. He dissects the nature of most women in this video.
While he was much more specific in the other video, he alluded here, again, to putting out his wife due to a lack of obedience. That is not a Church-approved reason for separation. In the other video, he went further to say that he'd be replacing her if she wasn't obedient. Also, obviously, not Catholic teaching.
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Most of the videos you've posted from this fellow have not provided any new ideas in line with Church teaching. I'll take your word for it that he talks about marriage licenses in one of these as it's not one I've seen. In most cases, the videos instead include an assortment of heresies. So, why bother?
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If you were really concerned about promoting Catholic marriage ideals, you'd be able to discuss the value of a pre-marriage agreement or avoiding a marriage license (two ideas worthy of discussion) without leaning on a heretic to make your case. He's added very little of value to the conversation.
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 02:37:36 AM »
Quote from: MaterDominici on June 29, 2018, 01:58:33 AM
While he was much more specific in the other video, he alluded here, again, to putting out his wife due to a lack of obedience. That is not a Church-approved reason for separation. In the other video, he went further to say that he'd be replacing her if she wasn't obedient. Also, obviously, not Catholic teaching.
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Most of the videos you've posted from this fellow have not provided any new ideas in line with Church teaching. I'll take your word for it that he talks about marriage licenses in one of these as it's not one I've seen. In most cases, the videos instead include an assortment of heresies. So, why bother?
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If you were really concerned about promoting Catholic marriage ideals, you'd be able to discuss the value of a pre-marriage agreement or avoiding a marriage license (two ideas worthy of discussion) without leaning on a heretic to make your case. He's added very little of value to the conversation.

Well, in other videos, he does talk about the importance of avoiding a State marriage license and getting a prenuptial agreement that looks out for both man and woman, although he focuses more on the man being protected because of the current system being rigged against man.

If love between man and woman is all that truly matters (and it does), and a true marriage can only be conferred by the Church (true marriage is only between man, woman and God), thus, a true marriage is seen in the Eyes of God, why does the woman insist on a State marriage license as a form of validation?
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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 11:48:04 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2018, 02:37:36 AM
why does the woman insist on a State marriage license as a form of validation?
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I am not convinced they do.
I believe it is automatic, that the priest submits the paperwork to the state, and the Catholic woman has no say in the matter, nor does it even cross her mind...
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Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM »
Quote from: TxTrad on June 29, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
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I am not convinced they do.
I believe it is automatic, that the priest submits the paperwork to the state, and the Catholic woman has no say in the matter, nor does it even cross her mind...

Wrong. Couples can opt out of the "automatic state license process" by demanding the priest not submit anything to the state . Also, in many states, it's a separate process. In my state, a couple can even get a state marriage license without going through any religious ritual conferring marriage.
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