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Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
« on: June 28, 2018, 05:55:21 AM »
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  • This man is wrong saying "nowhere in the Bible does it teach 'women love your husbands'". In reality, Titus 2:4 teaches women to love their husbands. It says those exact words. With an exception of this aforementioned error, he's basically right about everything else he says.

    Again, if a woman is not obedient to her prospective husband in signing a prenuptial agreement and avoiding a state marriage license, then she doesn't truly love him, and she will continue to be disobedient to him after marriage. Indeed, a woman's love for man is defined by her obedience to him.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #1 on: June 28, 2018, 06:53:06 AM »
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  • I tried to listen to him last night, but I could not put up with it for more than 1 minute. I do not understand what you see in him. I might as well go to my high school football coach for marriage advise. "You got to be mobile, agile, and hostile".
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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #2 on: June 28, 2018, 07:09:03 AM »
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  • if a woman is not obedient to her prospective husband in signing a prenuptial agreement and avoiding a state marriage license, then she doesn't truly love him

    I disagree.

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #3 on: June 28, 2018, 08:44:15 AM »
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  • I tried to listen to him last night, but I could not put up with it for more than 1 minute. I do not understand what you see in him. I might as well go to my high school football coach for marriage advise. "You got to be mobile, agile, and hostile".

    Lousy argument. If you're not going to hear what he's saying, you have no real counter to it, nor are you justified in criticizing him. You can't claim to know what he's saying, if you didn't go beyond a minute.
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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #4 on: June 28, 2018, 08:49:15 AM »
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  • Lousy argument. If you're not going to hear what he's saying, you have no real counter to it, nor are you justified in criticizing him. You can't claim to know what he's saying, if you didn't go beyond a minute.
    If I gave more time to people like him, I would not have had time to learn anything from the truly wise. 

    Conversations like this remind me of why I avoid CI, it takes up valuable time. I think I'll disappear for a few months till I catch a cold or break a leg or something that gets me stuck in the house.
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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #5 on: June 28, 2018, 09:04:40 AM »
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  • Indeed, many women are agents of Antichrist.

    The top brass of the Antichrist female dynamic are Jew women, for they were the prototypes to be followed and emulated by deceived, selfish, fallen shiksas.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #6 on: June 28, 2018, 12:36:15 PM »
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  • Again, if a woman is not obedient to her prospective husband in signing a prenuptial agreement and avoiding a state marriage license, then she doesn't truly love him, and she will continue to be disobedient to him after marriage. Indeed, a woman's love for man is defined by her obedience to him.
    A woman is obliged to obey her husband.  She is not obliged to obey a prospective husband, a boyfriend, or random men she happens to meet.  

    As a general rule, when a man other than one's husband says anything starting with "If you really loved me, you would ..." it is warning sign.  It tends to be part of manipulating a woman into something she should not do.

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #7 on: June 28, 2018, 12:41:09 PM »
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  • A woman is obliged to obey her husband.  She is not obliged to obey a prospective husband, a boyfriend, or random men she happens to meet.  

    As a general rule, when a man other than one's husband says anything starting with "If you really loved me, you would ..." it is warning sign.  It tends to be part of manipulating a woman into something she should not do.

    Wrong analysis. If a woman truly loves the man who loves her and is considering marrying her, she will obey his request to get a prenuptial agreement. It's that simple. If she rejects it, she's disobedient and she doesn't really love him. She's selfish, lacks faith in the man, and she's insidious. She's hiding an ulterior motive to get married.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #8 on: June 29, 2018, 01:11:10 AM »
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  • This man is wrong saying "nowhere in the Bible does it teach 'women love your husbands'". In reality, Titus 2:4 teaches women to love their husbands. It says those exact words. With an exception of this aforementioned error,
    ... and that pesky little Micheas quote taken out of context once again.

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    he's basically right about everything else he says.
    I think he struck out numerous times in this video. And, as he once again didn't mention anything about prenups, I wonder why it is you posted this.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #9 on: June 29, 2018, 01:31:42 AM »
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  • ... and that pesky little Micheas quote taken out of context once again.
    How is it taken out of context? He even clarified that man should love his wife, even when man shouldn't entrust everything to his wife. He said that just because you don't entrust everything to her, doesn't mean you don't love her. To not entrust everything to her is an aegis to whatever the wife might bring against the husband, if she were to turn against him like most women do against their husbands in these latter days.  


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    I think he struck out numerous times in this video. And, as he once again didn't mention anything about prenups, I wonder why it is you posted this.
    No, he hit another homerun. The point of me posting it is to fortify the points made in the other videos about the need for man to get a prenuptial agreement and avoid a state marriage license. He dissects the nature of most women in this video. 
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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #10 on: June 29, 2018, 01:42:26 AM »
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  • How is it taken out of context? He even clarified that man should love his wife, even when man shouldn't entrust everything to his wife. He said that just because you don't entrust everything to her, doesn't mean you don't love her. To not entrust everything to her is an aegis to whatever the wife might bring against the husband, if she were to turn against him like most women do against their husbands in these latter days.  
    The prophet was lamenting how things were at the time & place where he was. He had lost all hope in anything holy remaining among the people: "now shall be their destruction."
    Consequently, no was was to be trusted. Not man-wife, father-son, nor mother-daughter.
    Now, if you believe that we are now as bad as they were then, the logical conclusion would be to not marry at all. Entertaining the idea of marriage suggests that there is the possibility of finding holiness among the people of this place and time. And, therefore, the suggestion to, as a rule, not trust even those within your household would not apply.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2018, 01:58:33 AM »
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  • No, he hit another homerun. The point of me posting it is to fortify the points made in the other videos about the need for man to get a prenuptial agreement and avoid a state marriage license. He dissects the nature of most women in this video.
    While he was much more specific in the other video, he alluded here, again, to putting out his wife due to a lack of obedience. That is not a Church-approved reason for separation. In the other video, he went further to say that he'd be replacing her if she wasn't obedient. Also, obviously, not Catholic teaching.
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    Most of the videos you've posted from this fellow have not provided any new ideas in line with Church teaching. I'll take your word for it that he talks about marriage licenses in one of these as it's not one I've seen. In most cases, the videos instead include an assortment of heresies. So, why bother?
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    If you were really concerned about promoting Catholic marriage ideals, you'd be able to discuss the value of a pre-marriage agreement or avoiding a marriage license (two ideas worthy of discussion) without leaning on a heretic to make your case. He's added very little of value to the conversation.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 02:37:36 AM »
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  • While he was much more specific in the other video, he alluded here, again, to putting out his wife due to a lack of obedience. That is not a Church-approved reason for separation. In the other video, he went further to say that he'd be replacing her if she wasn't obedient. Also, obviously, not Catholic teaching.
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    Most of the videos you've posted from this fellow have not provided any new ideas in line with Church teaching. I'll take your word for it that he talks about marriage licenses in one of these as it's not one I've seen. In most cases, the videos instead include an assortment of heresies. So, why bother?
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    If you were really concerned about promoting Catholic marriage ideals, you'd be able to discuss the value of a pre-marriage agreement or avoiding a marriage license (two ideas worthy of discussion) without leaning on a heretic to make your case. He's added very little of value to the conversation.

    Well, in other videos, he does talk about the importance of avoiding a State marriage license and getting a prenuptial agreement that looks out for both man and woman, although he focuses more on the man being protected because of the current system being rigged against man.

    If love between man and woman is all that truly matters (and it does), and a true marriage can only be conferred by the Church (true marriage is only between man, woman and God), thus, a true marriage is seen in the Eyes of God, why does the woman insist on a State marriage license as a form of validation?
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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 11:48:04 AM »
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  • why does the woman insist on a State marriage license as a form of validation?
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    I am not convinced they do.
    I believe it is automatic, that the priest submits the paperwork to the state, and the Catholic woman has no say in the matter, nor does it even cross her mind...

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    Re: Woman's Love Defined By Obedience To Man
    « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2018, 12:24:32 PM »
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    I am not convinced they do.
    I believe it is automatic, that the priest submits the paperwork to the state, and the Catholic woman has no say in the matter, nor does it even cross her mind...

    Wrong. Couples can opt out of the "automatic state license process" by demanding the priest not submit anything to the state . Also, in many states, it's a separate process. In my state, a couple can even get a state marriage license without going through any religious ritual conferring marriage.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

     

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