Author Topic: Radical Action (Read 1841 times)

John Grace · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2013, 08:00:19 AM »

Many of the American pro-life groups look to Youth Defence for inspiration and come to Ireland to intern and learn more. Groups like "Survivors" and "Rev" Patrick Mahoney are great friends of theirs.

Joint prayer is always encouraged. I don't mind standing with a protestant at a picket but won't engage in prayer with them.

We need to "tradify them".

John Grace · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2013, 08:07:01 AM »

On the point of Pat Mahoney, I have never met him but recently a group did a pro-life walk in Ireland. They walked from Dublin to Belfast in praying against abortion.

In the late 1990s, he made the news for a picket and occupation of the 'Family planning' facility in Dublin. The Irish Family Planning Association (IFPA)

They took out an injunction against Youth Defence to stop them picketing. The IFPA had to move offices because of a daily picket.

John Grace · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2013, 08:10:07 AM »

Joseph Scheidler and Bryan Kemper have been influential here in Ireland. They regularly are over for events and pickets.Lila Rose is a newer generation of activists visiting Ireland.

John Grace · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2013, 08:24:21 AM »

Whilst I would commend Bernadette Smyth of Precious Life (based in Belfast) for holding up the rosary beads at the All Ireland Rally For Life and for organising an All Night Prayer Vigil, I disagree with her quoting from Elie Wiesel as she did at the All Ireland Rally for Life and certainly disagree with her calling JPII "the great" as she did also at the Pro-life rally.

Whilst I was delighted to hear the Social Reign of Christ mentioned at the All Night Vigil, I encountered favourable comments regarding Medjugorje and "Healing Your Family Tree" supporters.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2013, 12:02:38 PM »

Yes Dolan is. During the ten year anniversary of sept 11th Dolan went along with NYC mayor Bloomberg with religion ban which was the equivalent to denying Christ. Then he gAve prayer at democratic national convention where our Lord was booed on world wide tv. Yes the whole world was watching as Christ was being attacked. Dolan has the catholic channel on serious radio and broken halo show talk about Ramadan yom kipper. Probably don't know what ember days are. Dolan is head of USCCB. Dolan Simone Campbell are well known public figures. No one outside the sspx knows about or even cares about bishop Fellay.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2013, 12:04:05 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

Whilst I would commend Bernadette Smyth of Precious Life (based in Belfast) for holding up the rosary beads at the All Ireland Rally For Life and for organising an All Night Prayer Vigil, I disagree with her quoting from Elie Wiesel as she did at the All Ireland Rally for Life and certainly disagree with her calling JPII "the great" as she did also at the Pro-life rally.

Whilst I was delighted to hear the Social Reign of Christ mentioned at the All Night Vigil, I encountered favourable comments regarding Medjugorje and "Healing Your Family Tree" supporters.

Is she sspx

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2013, 12:07:11 PM »

The only time we had night vigils while Eucharistic adoration.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #22 on:** July 15, 2013, 12:35:44 PM »

This past Saturday I went to one of the abortion clinics in Cherry Hill with my friend who still goes to st Jude's sspx. I have been going to resistant Mass with my husband. This one was totally busy killing babies. It made me sick. I was crying as we prayed the Rosary. Mothers were coming out with teen daughters who just had abortion.

There were evangelicals there but mostly local no. Real nice people praying the Rosary. We took turns leading. One man prayed the Rosary differently. Instead of thee he used you. Then they prayed the divine mercy chaplet. I didn't know it.

Father Jack Murphy usually leads the group in prayer most SaturdAys but couldn't make it that Saturday.

Then the people invited us to mc Donald's so we went. They asked us where we went to church. Of course I told them that I go to society of Pope Pius x so in Philadelphia. I think my friend was upset. I'm not going to lie.
We were talking about church closings too. Using my new cell phone showed them the cathinfo thread with the video of 1,000 year old Catholic Church being demolished.

You are right we have to be kind and tradify them. Good word Iwas tradified I leave sspx literature about new mass at no churches grocery stores and restaurants (diners).

They will know by the fruit.

Sigismund · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2013, 09:41:05 PM »

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What motivated me to enquire at the convent was after a conversation with a girl,whom I know. She was demoralised that no local people joined the pro-life protest outside the office of the politician. She had two others with her. None were local people. This was the day after the vote on abortion. There is a general apathy towards politicians in Ireland.

I thought I should enquire at the convent as I remembered one of the sisters photographed with two politicians, who voted for abortion. To be fair, the photograph was before the vote and in the context of a heritage group evening. There were others in the photograph too. The nun is a historian and written several books.

Her order are around since 1831 and whilst I didn't want to patronise here, I reminded her of who the enemies of Catholics are.

When I called the politicians "pro-abortion" politicians, she said we shouldn't judge or label. Both have recently voted for abortion.

To be fair, she was pleasant and said she had written to the politicians on the issue.

She may or may not join the pickets in future. She is aware of it and up to her.

Whilst I did say to her, her order helped to ruin the schools and the Church, the enemy would think nothing of shooting us down in the streets.

It's up to her order but whilst dying out any ways, they need to fight back.

Well, they voted for abortion. It hardly seems judgmental to point that out. I had an interesting conversation with a woman in a coffee shop who (politely) asked by about a pro-life pamphlet I had on my table, intending to leave it there. She asked if she could see it, and I told her she was welcome to keep it. She flipped through it, thanked me for offered it to her, and asked me if I agreed with it. I told her I did. She said, "I definitely do not, but there is one thing we agree on. I don't like the term pro-choice either. Choice about what? The issue is abortion. Are you for it or against it? I am pro abortion, and proud it it. Fetuses are not people. Abortion is safer than carrying a fetus to term, and there are too many people in the world anyway. I don't want to force anyone to have an abortion, but generally, women who are pregnant should. If they want kids, adopt one that is already here."

I was a bit stunned, and I don't remember what I said, if anything. Thinking about it later, as wrong as she was, at least she has the courage of her delusional convictions.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 16, 2013, 01:28:08 AM »

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I thought I should enquire at the convent as I remembered one of the sisters photographed with two politicians, who voted for abortion. To be fair, the photograph was before the vote and in the context of a heritage group evening. There were others in the photograph too. The nun is a historian and written several books.

Her order are around since 1831 and whilst I didn't want to patronise here, I reminded her of who the enemies of Catholics are.

When I called the politicians "pro-abortion" politicians, she said we shouldn't judge or label. Both have recently voted for abortion.

Then she is a liberal traitor herself. A fraud. There are many such people, and they are always calling us names while pretending to be Catholic and buddying up with evil people.

The whole NO hierarchy is full of such people.

And now the leadership of the neo-SSPX.

Sigismund · « **Reply #25 on:** July 16, 2013, 06:46:43 PM »

I am kind of surprised that the above post jot down thumbed.