Author Topic: wife rejects natural family planning (Read 31315 times)

Zeitun · « **Reply #125 on:** August 02, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »

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Ive read this whole thread. Some of you have been working feverishly to derail it. Now, we are talking about organic food and vaccinations. ggreg, your posts are very well put, and you have very good advice.

My misguided zeal (im a convert also) caused much friction in my marriage and it caused a divorce. I became a Catholic in 1961. After that the church immediately started changing. I overreacted and felt like I had to continually fight for the faith. My husband went Novus Ordo. I look back over the years, and think of how I could have reacted differently to many situations. I could write a book on the subject.

Believe me, divorce puts an end to your family and any goals you could have had for your children becoming good catholics.

Ggreg is who you should listen to, gooch. I, like others here, would suggest you get counseling from a TRADITIONAL priest only. He will be able to guide you on how to treat your wife, and what is morally acceptible. Stay away from the "p r e s b y t e r s " .

I think you should write a book about this, or at least an article. I know a marriage that ended in divorce, and the story was almost identical to yours. It was very sad, the result of the divorce was that the wife lost educational custody and all of their children went to public school.

Was this the case in Ohio? If so I heard about that.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #126 on:** August 02, 2013, 04:22:19 PM »

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And that my friends is why 'the resistance' will never survive and thrive. It is made up of perfectionists, pedants, prigs and purists who will never be able to reach a consensus on anything. A house divided against itself and all that good stuff.

It's pretty clear to me that the resistance wont survive if it allows liberal subversives who say that for twenty years they've had reservations about Catholicism and about changes they think Constantine made to the interpretation of the Gospel disrupt and propagandize on their web forums.

That is, the very reason for the problems in the SSPX, an infiltration of liberals, is the reason for problems here.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #127 on:** August 02, 2013, 04:27:06 PM »

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Anyway Gooch I will bow out, because this thread will otherwise degenerate into a sh!tfest but please come back in a year or two and resurrect the thread and give us and future readers the benefit of hindsight. If you save your marriage how did you do it and if you didn't, what you could have done better if you had a second chance.

Fat chance of that.

Zeitun · « **Reply #128 on:** August 02, 2013, 04:28:41 PM »

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How would the woman react if her whole family told her husband was right and said they'd never accept her leaving her husband. If they told her she was to blame and her excuses were pathetic she'd never act this way. Catholics do not support injustice.

You're absolutely right of course. But it doesn't sound like the family agrees with Gooch. Sounds like he's on his own.

Every priests I've talked to on the issue of a non-Catholic spouse said the same thing--stand your ground but win them over with charity.

This is one of the worst parts of marriage--the inability to force a spouse to do the right thing and live a virtuous life.

I cannot believe anyone would say you aren't married because your standards are too high. Impossible. Wish more men had your standards.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #129 on:** August 02, 2013, 04:34:06 PM »

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You're absolutely right of course. But it doesn't sound like the family agrees with Gooch. Sounds like he's on his own.

He's on his own against people who think like ggreg, who blame men for the evil women do.

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Every priests I've talked to on the issue of a non-Catholic spouse said the same thing--stand your ground but win them over with charity.

This is one of the worst parts of marriage--the inability to force a spouse to do the right thing and live a virtuous life.

The men making excuses for women misbehaving and blaming men for what women do are legion.

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I cannot believe anyone would say you aren't married because your standards are too high. Impossible. Wish more men had your standards.

Ever notice how the liberal never admits men are rejected for actually accepting the religion. A woman rejects a man because he doesn't want to practice contraception, wants to follow traditional courtship, or commit to marriage, etc etc, but in ggreg's pathological BS-world, it's because of lack of empathy.