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Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Truth is Eternal on January 19, 2016, 10:29:53 AM
I came across this picture in a Protestant forum on Facebook. Could the person who posted this be a Satanist infiltrator whose job it is to further destroy what little morals these Protestants  have remaining, or are most Protestant already this far gone; what do you think about this?

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/jfkdjfsskfsk/12507352_10203993490636476_2491590527144173142_n1_zps93skrbkq.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/jfkdjfsskfsk/media/12507352_10203993490636476_2491590527144173142_n1_zps93skrbkq.jpg.html)
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 19, 2016, 11:14:01 AM
Protestants are not Catholic because they like being sinners.  Luther taught the heresy to "Sin, and sin boldly!"  

So there's nothing surprising in that message you have posted above.  Like Billy Joel sang, he'd rather live with the sinners than die with the saints, the sinners are much more fun;  only the good die young.

"No perfect people are allowed."  That's par for the course in Protestantism.

Notice it doesn't mention what the smoker is smoking!

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Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Truth is Eternal on January 19, 2016, 11:18:36 AM
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Notice it doesn't mention what the smoker is smoking!


Good point.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Prayerful on January 19, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
Perry Noble sounds so much like Pope Francis in that piece.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Marlelar on January 19, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
You are reading it too literally.  They are using the literary device of exaggeration to make the point that all are sinners and do actually sin even though they consider Christ their savior.

In other words, "Do not come in here thinking we are all saints and always live up to our beliefs.  We do not.  Do not cast stones at us because we fall and fail, we are still trying and we are here to be reminded and encouraged in "our walk with the Lord"."

It makes a valid point.  How many times have you heard someone comment upon hearing of a failing of a Catholic "Huh!  And they call themselves Catholic!", in a disparaging tone of voice?

We all tend to be to quick to condemn the failings of others, what ever happened to encouraging sinners?
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Truth is Eternal on January 19, 2016, 12:31:17 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
You are reading it too literally.  They are using the literary device of exaggeration to make the point that all are sinners and do actually sin even though they consider Christ their savior.

In other words, "Do not come in here thinking we are all saints and always live up to our beliefs.  We do not.  Do not cast stones at us because we fall and fail, we are still trying and we are here to be reminded and encouraged in "our walk with the Lord"."

It makes a valid point.  How many times have you heard someone comment upon hearing of a failing of a Catholic "Huh!  And they call themselves Catholic!", in a disparaging tone of voice?

We all tend to be to quick to condemn the failings of others, what ever happened to encouraging sinners?


I will never encourage theses sinners to continue to endorse their sins.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Croixalist on January 19, 2016, 01:36:16 PM
Yes, the Protestant "who am I to judge". The only time they actually damn you to Hell is if you don't have utter confidence you're already saved (in other words Catholic). Step right up and get your license to sin!
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Marlelar on January 19, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Quote from: Marlelar
You are reading it too literally.  They are using the literary device of exaggeration to make the point that all are sinners and do actually sin even though they consider Christ their savior.

In other words, "Do not come in here thinking we are all saints and always live up to our beliefs.  We do not.  Do not cast stones at us because we fall and fail, we are still trying and we are here to be reminded and encouraged in "our walk with the Lord"."

It makes a valid point.  How many times have you heard someone comment upon hearing of a failing of a Catholic "Huh!  And they call themselves Catholic!", in a disparaging tone of voice?

We all tend to be to quick to condemn the failings of others, what ever happened to encouraging sinners?


I will never encourage theses sinners to continue to endorse their sins.


Please re-read my first response carefully, I said nothing about encouraging or endorsing sins, but encouraging sinners.  You too are a sinner and need encouragement to stop sinning.  Read St. Francis de Sales.

Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: songbird on January 19, 2016, 02:41:14 PM
Marielar:  I agree with you.  It is to be read, that those who come to the Savior are sinners.  If you think those inside are saints, you are wrong.  

This is how i understand it to be.

Some people used to say or think that Catholics considered themselves saints and saw Catholics as hippocrites.

We as catholics know better.  We go for the Precious Blood that is saving, in all sacraments.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Mark 79 on January 19, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
You are reading it too literally.  They are using the literary device of exaggeration to make the point that all are sinners and do actually sin even though they consider Christ their savior.

In other words, "Do not come in here thinking we are all saints and always live up to our beliefs.  We do not.  Do not cast stones at us because we fall and fail, we are still trying and we are here to be reminded and encouraged in "our walk with the Lord"."

It makes a valid point.  How many times have you heard someone comment upon hearing of a failing of a Catholic "Huh!  And they call themselves Catholic!", in a disparaging tone of voice?

We all tend to be to quick to condemn the failings of others, what ever happened to encouraging sinners?


I have to disagree with you and agree with Neil.

Protestants spout that "once saved, always saved" nonsense. They teach that one perfunctory "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior" is all they need to do.  Faith once, and they think they have sealed their salvation. Like the Pharisees they ape, they are hypocrites who claim to believe the Bible, but ignore it.

They don't get—and they don't want to get—the "fear and trembling" part of working out their salvation. Indeed, as Neil says, they revel in sin.

http://judaism.is/“once-saved…”.html
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: poche on January 19, 2016, 11:28:38 PM
This could apply to the Catholic Church also. Of course the situation being that the idea is that those who are living in sinful situations are working to extricate themselves from those situations.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 19, 2016, 11:56:18 PM
Quote from: Marlelar
Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Quote from: Marlelar
You are reading it too literally.  They are using the literary device of exaggeration to make the point that all are sinners and do actually sin even though they consider Christ their savior.

In other words, "Do not come in here thinking we are all saints and always live up to our beliefs.  We do not.  Do not cast stones at us because we fall and fail, we are still trying and we are here to be reminded and encouraged in "our walk with the Lord"."

It makes a valid point.  How many times have you heard someone comment upon hearing of a failing of a Catholic "Huh!  And they call themselves Catholic!", in a disparaging tone of voice?

We all tend to be to quick to condemn the failings of others, what ever happened to encouraging sinners?

I will never encourage theses sinners to continue to endorse their sins.


Please re-read my first response carefully, I said nothing about encouraging or endorsing sins, but encouraging sinners.  You too are a sinner and need encouragement to stop sinning.  Read St. Francis de Sales.


By encouraging Protestants in their false religion (Protestantism) you are encouraging and endorsing their sin.  

They say they are repentant to God and they believe the Bible, but they refuse to confess to a priest even though the Bible states where Jesus gave the power to forgive sins to His Apostles.  Therefore they do not really believe what the Bible says.

St. Francis de Sales was a priest, and he believed in the Sacrament of Penance, but Protestants do not.  The most charitable thing to tell them is that they need to become Catholic if they expect to find salvation, because there is no salvation for them AS Protestants.

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Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: clare on January 20, 2016, 01:51:29 AM
"The Catholic Church is for saints and sinners alone. For respectable people, the Anglican Church will do.” - Oscar Wilde
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: songbird on January 20, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Yes, the protestants think that all they have to do is believe and they are saved.  I usually respond with, "Then Christ's sufferings/Precious Blood was poured in vain?!  And Satan believes in Him too.
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: HiddenServant on January 20, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
I would rather, we discuss healthy ideas ,for true Christianity,
then follow heretics, in their idea of Jesus.  We need follow the
Catholic Church, and its Doctrine and Dogma, than the falsity
outside of it.
Using Protestants as an example to define our Holy Faith is not a
great idea when have Saints that do that cleanly and stick to the
truth.  :reporter: :detective: :applause:
Title: Wicked Protestants! Are These Beliefs Common in Protestantism?
Post by: clarkaim on January 22, 2016, 01:05:45 PM
Kurt Kramer, the Kevin Bacon of bona Fide Catholicism,, said to me once that the Church is not a country club for saints , rather a hospital for sinners.  I think that is pretty good definition.  

Problem is a protestant "Church" is rather like a chiropractor's office or "naturo-pathic physician" or some other BS quackery masquerading as a hospital.