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Offline Anothersoul

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Wicked husband, children watching
« on: September 07, 2017, 11:59:53 PM »
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  • My husband is drinking himself to death. 
    He is a fallen away Novus Ordo convert who refused to attend Tridentine Mass with me and the children when I found Tradition 10 years ago (my whole life was spent in Novus Ordo) He told me it wasn't for him, 'no thanks'. So the children and I continued to go to Mass by ourselves. 
    The move to Tradition caused a split in our marriage which makes him extremely unsympathetic to any of my basic needs. Pornography of course reared it's disgusting head, found years ago by me, and sadly, when confronted, he had zero remorse for, an no desire to give it up at all. 
    Our income suffers because he only works part time, much less than he ever has, so we live on very meager means. 
    Television is on constantly and he likes the children to stay up til 2am to watch with him. Homeschool suffers..yes it would. 
    I have consulted many Traditional Catholic Priests over 10 years and none have given permission for me to leave. They only say that they will offer prayers for us, encourage me to stay, keep praying and to continue to offer it up. (Always a recommendation devotion to St Rita and St Monica) 
    Several priests have heard my tears and my pleas for help, and none have given me permission to leave. Not even to get a job to help with essentials. 
    Is the advice to stay possibly a mistake of sspx priests? What would the reason be for a woman to continue under such circuмstances with children involved? 
    If I had my own job and no children I would have no problem being married to this man, I can easily escape to my room to avoid him for the most part, but my children cannot. 
    I could earn my own money and take care of my needs, but having children keeps me home and in this case dependent on, well, him. 
    My largest concern is for my children watching their father live so corrupt.
    I have asked family for help but they won't get involved because no one wants to confront my husband. 
    I would imagine that a hundred years ago some man in a family, a father, brother or uncle, would kick a guy like this in the pants for destroying his wife and kids' lives by such a wicked lifestyle. 
    Unfortunately for us here though we have no MEN to speak up on our behalf. 
    I pray very much that someday my children will get the chance to grow up in a real Traditional Catholic Family AND home. 
    Jesus and Mary have mercy on us  :pray:


    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 12:26:01 AM »
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  • I hope and pray  that some (other?) sober, well studied, woman jumps in here.

    Not to assume either way, but please maintain a particular awareness that  you are very vulnerable at the moment, particularly if not especially to otherwise good acts and intentions and, of these,  most acutely to those of men.

    Besides that, and I'm no S. Alphonsus scholar by any stretch, but the most immediately glaring concern is that you seem to have been directed to not provide for necessities otherwise absent.

    Is you parish(?) going to feed your kids? Pass the hat then... Providence often has B.O.

    "Necessity makes licit... " 

    I hope that this was clear enough, without being too clear and so straying into the indelicate. 

     :pray: :pray: :pray:
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 01:44:50 AM »
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  • It seems to me that your children are in moral, and possibly physical danger, in view of the fact that he has them up at 2am watching television. What sort of shows would they be? Pornography?

    The least we could say is that children need their sleep and this is a form of abuse in itself. 

    I would take those priests' advice with a pinch of salt. They don't sound very wise. Have you sort any other form of counselling?

    I will remember your intentions in my prayers.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    Offline Gail

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 04:37:32 AM »
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  • I totally agree with your summation Nadir. I too will include this lady and her children in my prayers.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 07:31:02 AM »
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  • I think these posts are well done troll posts done to have a good laugh at the responses of trads.
    If so, then shame on them; if not, shame on us for acting as if it were otherwise. 
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 07:35:22 AM »
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  • If I had the skill, I'd create a wicked wife companion troll post to see the responses.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 07:38:24 AM »
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  • I would make it as heart wrenching as possible,  but also hit all the cheap stereotypes for fun to see if others fell for it. 

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 07:40:07 AM »
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  • I would make it as heart wrenching as possible,  but also hit all the cheap stereotypes for fun to see if others fell for it.
    First name "Richard"? If there's any clear evidence of trolling...
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 07:41:54 AM »
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  • The above post is a subtle troll post on the supposed bad pastoral guidance given by traditional priests which is meant to lead people to question whether using them for moral guidance is prudent.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 07:43:31 AM »
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  • The above post is a subtle troll post on the supposed bad pastoral guidance given by traditional priests which is meant to lead people to question whether using them for moral guidance is prudent.
    1.  you know this how exactly?
    2. What if you're wrong?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 07:44:20 AM »
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  • Create a horrifying scenario, then state that The person went to multiple traditional priests for guidance and none really gave her any guidance. We even have people commiserating that we should take moral guidance from traditional priests with a grain of salt. I'd say this troll post did its job.


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 07:45:17 AM »
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  • If I am wrong, then I am wrong. So what? I doubt that I am.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 07:48:15 AM »
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  • I am using my intellect and judgment based on how people construct troll posts. The above post hits markers. We can often be honestly mistaken in judgment. I am not required to believe every sob story I hear or see and it might be actually sinful to do so in certain ridiculous situations.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 07:52:18 AM »
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  • Create a horrifying scenario, then state that The person went to multiple traditional priests for guidance and none really gave me any guidance. We even have people commiserating that we should take moral guidance from traditional priests with a grain of salt. I'd say this troll post did its job.
    In other words you don't know, and you could be wrong.

    Also, at the risk of starting a cackle fest in the hen house, if this is an honest post, and not a misrepresentation then there are alternatives, such as we are dealing with a scuffed up, desperate mother of two, and she's talking about what it felt like, these alleged traditional priests actually said something else i.e. she misunderstood.

    Real world example. "Sweet heart, you gonna eat  that second slice of cake?"

    She thinks "I look like a fat troll!"

    He thinks "Am I gonna be a dad again?"

    She says "HE CALLED ME FAT AND UGLY! :really-mad2: >:( :cussing: :'("

    He joins the dog in the barn.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 07:53:18 AM »
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  • If I am wrong, then I am wrong. So what? I doubt that I am.
    So what? Callous much?
    "Lord, have mercy".