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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Wicked husband, children watching
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2017, 09:14:02 AM »
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  • It is confusing for me because the model of the Saints have shown to stay and endure, 

    Well, it's a prudential judgment in many cases.  Some of these saints really had no choice because they would basically starve if they left their husbands.  But if the man is really messing up the kids with his horrible attitudes and lack of morals (e.g. if he's letting them and encouraging them to watch movies that could be proximate occasions of mortal sin on a regular basis), that danger to the souls of the children would outweigh any obligations of justice you might have to stay with this man.  In the example I cited, you can put down an ultimatum.  "You stop showing the kids these bad movies, or I'll have no choice but to separate from you."  Then HE has a choice to make.  But dangers to the children's souls must be grave and proximate.  It can't be some general vague "he's a bad influence on them" ... there has to be a very concrete and proximate danger of sin by his continued presence there.


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #31 on: September 08, 2017, 09:14:48 AM »
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  • So, wait a sec ma'am. Not to add more to your ruck but, if you're referencing the "CCC", then why aren't you talking to your "ordinary" about this?

    Indeed, in many areas, the CCC isn't worth the paper it's printed on.


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #32 on: September 08, 2017, 09:16:56 AM »
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  • I'm sorry, I thought CCC meant Catechism of Catholic Church

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #33 on: September 08, 2017, 09:18:27 AM »
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  • I'm sorry, I thought CCC meant Catechism of Catholic Church

    Yes, that's what it stands for, but the CCC is a publication of the Novus Ordo establishment ... and it has lots of problems.  Actually, though, there's a lot of good stuff in there too.

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #34 on: September 08, 2017, 09:20:33 AM »
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  • Indeed, in many areas, the CCC isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
    not even as keister cleaner, the lot of it. Yes yes, "bits of it are good", which makes the whole that much more fit for kindling.

     The larger point though is the incongruity and inconsistency of this jurisdictional "hokey pokey"

    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #35 on: September 08, 2017, 09:22:22 AM »
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  • I'm sorry, I thought CCC meant Catechism of Catholic Church
    It can mean many things I'm sure, but in this case you're correct ma'am.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #36 on: September 08, 2017, 09:25:14 AM »
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  • I guess I used wrong abbreviation. I have Catechism of Trent anyway, but sometimes I do look up online at newadvent also. Maybe I shouldn't. 

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #37 on: September 08, 2017, 09:25:22 AM »
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  • I'm sorry, I thought CCC meant Catechism of Catholic Church
    And ma'am, please, I'm not here to scuff you up some more. YOu should at least be helped to your feet before the "kickin'" recommences. 

    That's that raw, hurt, "vulnerable" thing I was talking about first post. "Hair triggered heart."

    It's okay. It'll be okay ma'am, just hold on and be faithful as you can, God on down the chain.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #38 on: September 08, 2017, 09:26:18 AM »
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  • I guess I used wrong abbreviation. I have Catechism of Trent anyway, but sometimes I do look up online at newadvent also. Maybe I shouldn't.
    Can't do anything right ma'am?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #39 on: September 08, 2017, 09:33:27 AM »
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  • Not today anyways!  

    I am new to posting on forums by the way..can you tell?  :fryingpan:

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #40 on: September 08, 2017, 09:34:35 AM »
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  • Not today anyways!  

    I am new to posting on forums by the way..can you tell?  :fryingpan:
    Sense of humor helps, but I was questioning how you feel.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #41 on: September 08, 2017, 09:41:16 AM »
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  • I feel like I really can't do anything right because nothing changes so maybe I am doing it wrong. I have to continue to look for a remedy for my children instead of listening to people that know me who say that I am so brave for staying. I want to KNOW what I am doing what is right for my children and not myself. The reason I asked about what advice priests give is because I thought that when a confessor gives advice a Catholic can count on it coming from Jesus Himself. 

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #42 on: September 08, 2017, 09:51:59 AM »
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  • I feel like I really can't do anything right because nothing changes so maybe I am doing it wrong. I have to continue to look for a remedy for my children instead of listening to people that know me who say that I am so brave for staying. I want to KNOW what I am doing what is right for my children and not myself. The reason I asked about what advice priests give is because I thought that when a confessor gives advice a Catholic can count on it coming from Jesus Himself. 
    Ma'am, with your permission I'm going to send you some information. I'm going back channel not to "hide" anything, but to avoid a crapstorm that would only be putting stink on a turd.

    It will not be a private conversation.

    One way message,  the best help that I can think to safely offer at the time. 

    I have some trepidations, and fear my own less than stellar judgement but outside of women needing to talk, I think what you need, and will make you feel better is to form a plan and plot a course of action, and then execute.

    It will also be someone to talk to.

    so, yes or no ma'am?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #43 on: September 08, 2017, 09:55:59 AM »
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  • Ok. I don't know any other way to communicate here other than public and I am open to any help so..

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    Re: Wicked husband, children watching
    « Reply #44 on: September 08, 2017, 09:58:50 AM »
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  • Ok. I don't know any other way to communicate here other than public and I am open to any help so..
    "... any help..." Remember, "vulnerable" Baby bird story. Stand by. Please do not respond the PM.
    "Lord, have mercy".