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Author Topic: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?  (Read 3662 times)

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Re: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2022, 02:37:31 PM »
I agree. There are people out there who choose the single life out of love for God because they actually feel called to live such a life… Virginity is a noble thing, but not many recognize it...

These are for religious reasons though. Consecrated life, calling for service to God, etc. Being single is not natural in and of itself. It doesn’t make sense metaphysically or biologically. It’s an exception to the rule for a nobler reason; devotion to God. Otherwise, it’s an aberration. 

The natural default for humanity is marriage. Virginity is only objectively superior when for a vocation dedicated to the Lord. :incense:

Re: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2022, 03:12:04 PM »
These are for religious reasons though. Consecrated life, calling for service to God, etc. Being single is not natural in and of itself. It doesn’t make sense metaphysically or biologically. It’s an exception to the rule for a nobler reason; devotion to God. Otherwise, it’s an aberration.

The natural default for humanity is marriage. Virginity is only objectively superior when for a vocation dedicated to the Lord. :incense:
God has given every soul “a distinct vocation.” He did not put us on earth to do nothing, but to do the exact duty to which He has called us, whether it be the priesthood, religious life, marriage, and virginity. These are the four vocations, none of them can be excluded. It is important for each soul to listen to the “movements in their soul,” to what His Will is for them. As long as they are of proper age with a pure intention, then they may select the one most fitting and to which grace has pulled them directly. Sometimes it takes a great grace for one to even accept the vocation they feel called to because it requires sacrifice.  

It has nothing to do with metaphysics or biology. God is the one Who calls. No one should be ashamed to live a virginal life…”If you have loved it, you will be favored by the Lord in all things.” And this is not even the Religious life…people are genuinely called to this single life in the world. Some do not even desire the pleasures of the flesh. I have met many selfless people who live this life and are truly happy in being alone with God. In the Council of Trent, you will find: “If anyone saith that the marriage state is to be preferred before the state of virginity, or celibacy, and that it is not better and and more blessed to remain in virginity, or in celibacy, than to be united in matrimony, let him be anathema.” 

All vocations are actually holy! 


Re: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2022, 03:33:22 PM »
God has given every soul “a distinct vocation.” He did not put us on earth to do nothing, but to do the exact duty to which He has called us, whether it be the priesthood, religious life, marriage, and virginity. These are the four vocations, none of them can be excluded. It is important for each soul to listen to the “movements in their soul,” to what His Will is for them. As long as they are of proper age with a pure intention, then they may select the one most fitting and to which grace has pulled them directly. Sometimes it takes a great grace for one to even accept the vocation they feel called to because it requires sacrifice. 

It has nothing to do with metaphysics or biology. God is the one Who calls. No one should be ashamed to live a virginal life…”If you have loved it, you will be favored by the Lord in all things.” And this is not even the Religious life…people are genuinely called to this single life in the world. Some do not even desire the pleasures of the flesh. I have met many selfless people who live this life and are truly happy in being alone with God. In the Council of Trent, you will find: “If anyone saith that the marriage state is to be preferred before the state of virginity, or celibacy, and that it is not better and and more blessed to remain in virginity, or in celibacy, than to be united in matrimony, let him be anathema.”

All vocations are actually holy!

Bro, we are talking past each other here. :laugh1:

No one is disputing that there are specific vocations appropriate for different people.

However, there is no vocation for singleness and virginity because of muh career purely considered, muh research, muh enjoying travel and playing video games and spending time with friendzzzz cuz family life is 2 tuff 4 me, etc. You get the pic.

Virginity is superior to the married life, objectively, when for religious service. Otherwise, it’s not.

A dude who sucks at talking with women is not living a “superior” state of life to a person who married in holiness to please God or a woman who is ugly who just happens to be celibate and a virgin is not superior to a woman who is married to please God. ::)

Singleness without a religious reason or for service to God in some way as a primary factor is insanity. It’s sick and unnatural. It has everything to do with both metaphysics and Biology. It doesn’t make sense unless the person is psychologically or physically abnormal.

As for the Canon of Trent, it has to be contextualized in the teaching of the Church. You & I and whoever don’t interpret it willy nilly bruh. Pope Pius IV’s Bull Benedictus Deus (26 January 1564):

‘latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication on anyone who, without the approval of the Holy See, presumes “to publish in any form any commentaries, glosses, annotations, scholia on, or any kind of interpretation whatsoever of the decrees of this council.” The reason for this prohibition, the Bull stated, was to avoid the “perversion and confusion” arising from private commentaries on and interpretations of the Tridentine decrees.’

Re: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2022, 04:04:49 PM »
Bro, we are talking past each other here. :laugh1:

No one is disputing that there are specific vocations appropriate for different people.

However, there is no vocation for singleness and virginity because of muh career purely considered, muh research, muh enjoying travel and playing video games and spending time with friendzzzz cuz family life is 2 tuff 4 me, etc. You get the pic.

Virginity is superior to the married life, objectively, when for religious service. Otherwise, it’s not.

A dude who sucks at talking with women is not living a “superior” state of life to a person who married in holiness to please God or a woman who is ugly who just happens to be celibate and a virgin is not superior to a woman who is married to please God. ::)

Singleness without a religious reason or for service to God in some way as a primary factor is insanity. It’s sick and unnatural. It has everything to do with both metaphysics and Biology. It doesn’t make sense unless the person is psychologically or physically abnormal.

As for the Canon of Trent, it has to be contextualized in the teaching of the Church. You & I and whoever don’t interpret it willy nilly bruh. Pope Pius IV’s Bull Benedictus Deus (26 January 1564):

‘latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication on anyone who, without the approval of the Holy See, presumes “to publish in any form any commentaries, glosses, annotations, scholia on, or any kind of interpretation whatsoever of the decrees of this council.” The reason for this prohibition, the Bull stated, was to avoid the “perversion and confusion” arising from private commentaries on and interpretations of the Tridentine decrees.’
What it looks like to me is this kind of subject is too immature for you. You are saying “bro” and “bruh.” As members on this forum, everyone should have a say in the discussions- and I mean those that have the knowledge and the resources to help others. Virginity is actually a vocation as all the other three are. You must have something against the life of continence if you cannot accept its very existence. 

Do not make a thread if you cannot handle what others say, when you expected an answer to your question. I actually do say all of this in charity. 

Re: Why is the Path to Marriage Made Difficult?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2022, 04:37:50 PM »
What it looks like to me is this kind of subject is too immature for you. You are saying “bro” and “bruh.” As members on this forum, everyone should have a say in the discussions- and I mean those that have the knowledge and the resources to help others. Virginity is actually a vocation as all the other three are. You must have something against the life of continence if you cannot accept its very existence.

Do not make a thread if you cannot handle what others say, when you expected an answer to your question. I actually do say all of this in charity.

Yup. Too immature by writing sarcastic remarks. :clown:

Yup. Can’t accept continence’s very existence after stating three times that it’s superior to married life when in the service of God. ::)

Yup. Can’t accept other points of views by engaging them and not complaining about it. :laugh1:

Yup. Can’t handle what others say while getting thumbed down every other post. :laugh2:

Thank you for your charity. :fryingpan: