Author Topic: Why Do Some Girls Try So Hard To Be Looked At? (Read 9420 times)

Marcelino · « **on:** March 09, 2012, 09:36:13 PM »

Lots of girls dress immodestly nowadays. So, I try not to look at them. Most girls respond to that by covering up. Others respond by just going about their business. However, a few respond to it by trying even harder and some of those seem resentful or at least no more caring than a fisherman would be towards a fish. Girls like that I prefer to stay away from, but sometimes I get "trapped." What do you think motivates them and how do you deal with it?

Darcy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2012, 09:39:48 PM »

Can you be more specific?

FaithByProxy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2012, 09:59:35 PM »

It's a problem of society, and poor moral teaching.

Most girls now are never taught what is and is not decent to walk out the door in. Many of the plunging necklines and ridiculously short skirts you see are the result of ignorance, not deliberate baiting. They do not understand the worth of their bodies, or that modesty is a gift from God.

There are, however, those girls who get a thrill from being looked at. Those seem to be the ones you are complaining about. I know it's hard, but just ignore them, no matter how desperate they are. Most of the time they have deep emotional issues that cause them to seek as much outside attention they can get, whether that attention is good or bad. Pray for them, but do nothing more with them.

Jitpring · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2012, 10:57:56 PM »

Quote from: Marcelino

Lots of girls dress immodestly nowadays. So, I try not to look at them. Most girls respond to that by covering up. Others respond by just going about their business. However, a few respond to it by trying even harder and some of those seem resentful or at least no more caring than a fisherman would be towards a fish. Girls like that I prefer to stay away from, but sometimes I get "trapped." What do you think motivates them and how do you deal with it?

Pride, thoughtlessness, lack of charity.

It's good to hear that you try not to look. See this by St. Alphonsus:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=14334

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2012, 05:36:49 AM »

Quote from: FaithByProxy

It's a problem of society, and poor moral teaching.

This is false.

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Most girls now are never taught what is and is not decent to walk out the door in. Many of the plunging necklines and ridiculously short skirts you see are the result of ignorance, not deliberate baiting. They do not understand the worth of their bodies, or that modesty is a gift from God.

It may be true that many are ignorant of traditional concepts of decency. However, they know why they dress the way they do. To attract men. The same reason they wear make-up.

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There are, however, those girls who get a thrill from being looked at. Those seem to be the ones you are complaining about. I know it's hard, but just ignore them, no matter how desperate they are. Most of the time they have deep emotional issues that cause them to seek as much outside attention they can get, whether that attention is good or bad. Pray for them, but do nothing more with them.

How many women don't have deep emotional issues?

The "slutwalks" are a sign of the widespread deliberate rejection of modesty (and moral decency in general) by young women and feminists.

It goes beyond bad character, it's an anti-Christian attitude, which not coincidentally is found especially in popular music.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:41:29 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: FaithByProxy
It's a problem of society, and poor moral teaching.

This is false.

Sorry, I misread what you wrote, I thought you stated it was not a problem of poor moral teaching, but of society. Sorry.

s2srea · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2012, 08:39:48 AM »

I have the unfortunate circuмstance of having to work with women who try to flaunt anything and everything their body has. Living close to LA, plastic surgery is practiced by every single woman in my department; every one of them; even one of the men. They're fixated on their bodies, and it is so gross to see them do nothing but obsess over them. Even my own boss, who is a physically beautiful woman, tries, and is usually successful, to gain the attention of the younger men who work in our department, and anywhere else for that matter. Its quite annoying for me actually.

But it is interesting: when you, as a man, reject their outward signs of sɛҳuąƖization, there are usually two types of responses-

1) Some women will have a reaction of covering up; its like there's a subliminal shame they, and you, can sense. They realize what they're doing, and when you reject it, by not playing into it and giving them the sɛҳuąƖ attention they're seeking, they are overcome by shame. They would never admit it aloud, nor do they usually change their ways, but you can sense an uncomfortableness in them.

2) They will try all the harder to gain your attention; its is a power issue. They are bent on making sure that you notice their 'talents'. There's a feeling of ensuring that your weakness as a man, your incompetence to resist their 'power', is exposed.

FaithByProxy · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2012, 09:53:54 AM »

You make some excellent points, Telesphorus.

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How many women don't have deep emotional issues?

The "slutwalks" are a sign of the widespread deliberate rejection of modesty (and moral decency in general) by young women and feminists.

It goes beyond bad character, it's an anti-Christian attitude, which not coincidentally is found especially in popular music.

Well, I don't have "deep emotional issues". There are well balanced women out there who don't let their baggage rule their life.

I have never even heard of a "slutwalk", I had to look it up. Shameful.

You must admit, however, that women do not come out of the womb indoctrinated with radical feminist and anti-Christian ideology. I am not denying that such attitudes exist, since they are all around us, every day. But I feel like most women who get caught up in such idiocy truly are either weak willed, ignorant, angry, or the sort who would just follow the crowd wherever it went. No woman who had any intelligence or sense of decency and self worth would conduct herself in such a fashion. I was not trying to excuse their behavior, as there is no excuse for it, but am merely pointing out their weakness.

I was, at one time, an angry, godless, feminist liberal. It sprang from ignorance. At the time I truly thought I was doing the "right thing", God help me, which is how so many young women (and men) get roped into such flawed thinking, if they have no firm moral teaching to stand on. Again, I am not excusing my inexcusable behavior at the time, I'm just trying to put it in perspective. One of the greatest crimes of liberal, and even anti-Christian, ideology is that it takes advantage of a person's inherent goodwill and charity, twisting it into something misshapen and evil.

"You must stand up for their rights!" "They are being oppressed!" "They want to censor us!" "We are all equal!" "Who are they to push their views on us?"

So on, so forth, ad nauseum.

Then, of course, there are those who know full well not only what they are doing, but why. These men and women are poison, infecting the rest of the culture at an alarming pace and taking advantage of the weak. Of them, I really have nothing to say, as I am not eloquent enough to put my disgust into words. They will have quite a lot to answer for at the Day of Judgment.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2012, 03:48:31 PM »

I agree with Telesphorus. Such women dress like that just to attract men, to draw attention to themselves.

I heard a sermon from a Traditional priest nearly a year ago on modesty. He said "Women who dress seductively think it makes them beautiful, but it doesn't. It actually makes them instruments of the devil".

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:03:11 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

I have the unfortunate circuмstance of having to work with women who try to flaunt anything and everything their body has. Living close to LA, plastic surgery is practiced by every single woman in my department; every one of them; even one of the men. They're fixated on their bodies, and it is so gross to see them do nothing but obsess over them.

God help you. L.A. might me the absolute worst den of self-obsessed evil in the USA, all covered underneath a veneer of chiseled bodies, fake body parts, plastic surgery, and going into hock to buy the right car and house. L.A. is the first step to Hell. 90% of the populous is so completely shallow, superficial, greedy, selfish, hypocritical, and perverse it is no wonder the city has not already fallen into the sea.

Roland Deschain · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:32:40 PM »

Good ol' fashion vanity is my guess.

I also look at it as a sad commentary on modern men that women think they have to dress like sluts to attract us. Most men these days are little more then grown up children who act like horny 17 year olds.

Perhaps if men acted more like men, women would dress and act with more virtue. No woman should ever be surprised if the man she attracts by flaunting her body is only interested in: her body.

I don't think there is anything more attractive then a virtuous, intelligent woman who dresses with class.....probably why I find my wife so attractive :scratchchin:

s2srea · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:36:54 PM »

The funny thing is that there are a number of CI members who live in the greater LA area.... :detective:

I think LA is only as bad as you make it out to be if you're not prepared to deal with it. You can find evil anywhere, its just sort of concentrated here... There are other places in the US which are plenty bad: Miami, NY, San Francisco...

Telesphorus · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:44:47 PM »

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I also look at it as a sad commentary on modern men that women think they have to dress like sluts to attract us

Men as a class are not to blame for this behavior among women. Let's get real here. Women aren't trying to attract all men, just a few men. By dressing in a certain way they're appealing to the base instincts of caddish men, on purpose. They're not trying to attract husbands, because husbands don't want women who dress provocatively. The majority of men have nothing to do with their interest in dressing that way. The conservative enabling of feminism thrives on finding a way to blame men for female misbehavior. This is a way of avoiding direct confrontation and chastisement of women, which men today find themselves constitutionally incapable of doing. That is the real lack of manliness, masquerading as chivalry.

True chivalry is the gracious behavior of men who refrain from exercising the advantages that their real power gives them out of genuine altruism. It's not posing as a knightly guardian of women out of a supplicating desire to please them.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:47:44 PM »

Only one thing to do regarding immodest women. Ignore them.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2012, 08:07:27 PM »

Typically when someone today uses the term "gentleman" - it means a plebe. It's usually used in an ironic or condescending way, or in a demanding way.

It may occasionally be used as praise, but it seems like damning with faint praise when one examines the attitudes of those who use it.

What is called chivalry today is not a knightly code of honor but rather a naive and boyish bashfulness that is at once insisted on as a kind of tribute while being inwardly despised.

For men and women to behave honorably in their relations towards one another first of all requires sincerity and honesty.

It is impossible for true chivalry (I mean the kind pertaining to one's behavior towards women) to exist among men when women are without honor.