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Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
« on: July 17, 2025, 11:02:39 AM »
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  • By J.C. Miller
    Crisis Magazine
    July 17, 2025


    We’ve all seen the headlines about America becoming a majority non-Christian country someday. Though we are encouraged by recent waves of conversion, we all know people who have lost their faith. We read that “while most Catholics have remained within the religious fold, a significant number have left the Catholic faith: 15 percent of the U.S. population says they were raised Catholic but no longer identify as such.” Professor Ryan Burge notes that Catholics have the worst “retention gap,” compared to other faith groups in America, among Gen Z: “For people born in 2000, 45% of them were raised Catholic. But only 28% still identify as Catholic.”


    Understanding the reasons people give may help us to save souls. The stated reason for falling away may not be the real one, but something can still be drawn from the offered answers. Looking at multiple surveys from different sources at different times and in different countries can give us insight into the loss of faith or decline in Mass attendance—because the same issues keep coming up.As a threshold matter, we need to understand what we are losing Catholics to. Our people are turning to nothing—becoming “nones.” It is not Islam or Protestantism (except maybe in parts of Latin America) that is poaching the faithful. In surveying teens 20 years ago, Professor Christian Smith found that among the third that lost their faith: “There were small losses to Protestantism and other religions but the biggest loss was the 20% that went to nonreligious. More than twice as many were sucked into nonreligious than into Protestantism.” Smith conducted the National Study of Youth and Religion, surveying thousands of teens and following up with them, noting that respondents often gave “quite vague reasons for losing their religion.” Some teens reported skepticism/disbelief (32 percent) while others “just stopped attending services” (12 percent) or had life disruption (10 percent).


    In a 2016 survey, the Public Religion Research Institute identified several causes for disaffiliation from religion:

    The reasons Americans leave their childhood religion are varied, but a lack of belief in teaching of religion was the most commonly cited reason for disaffiliation. Among the reasons Americans identified as important motivations in leaving their childhood religion are: they stopped believing in the religion’s teachings (60%), their family was never that religious when they were growing up (32%), and their experience of negative religious teachings about or treatment of gαy and lesbian people (29%).

    While LGBTQ+ issues are often singled out in these surveys, it really seems like a subset of not believing in a religion’s teaching. PRRI also broke this out for Catholics:

    Notably, those who were raised Catholic are more likely than those raised in any other religion to cite negative religious treatment of gαy and lesbian people (39% vs. 29%, respectively) and the clergy sɛҳuąƖ-abuse scandal (32% vs. 19%, respectively) as primary reasons they left the Church.

    The Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University conducted the National Poll of Young Catholics in 2020. The survey asked about their reasons for missing Mass pre-pandemic, with the option to select multiple reasons from a list. These included practical reasons (e.g., 57 percent cited a busy schedule) and theological (e.g., 43 percent said they were not very religious). Ten percent indicated they missed Mass because they were divorced or married outside of the Church. “Seventy-three percent of respondents agree ‘somewhat’ or ‘strongly’ that they can be a good Catholic without going to Mass every Sunday.” Clergy abuse is also mentioned among reasons for not being involved in parish life.


    The Pillar’s more recent survey, and Brendan Hodge’s wise analysis, continues to pay dividends. The Pillar asked respondents: “If at some point you ceased to attend religious services regularly (for a year or longer) why did you do so?” The results “were a mix of theological issues and practical ones.” The top reason (20 percent) was moving away from their church, while others also mentioned moving away from family (17 percent). Of course, others listed theological reasons (attending church doesn’t matter at 19 percent, change in beliefs at 14 percent, etc.) and, again, behavior of religious leaders (11 percent), which must certainly include the abuse scandals.


    America is not the only country losing its religion. Western Europe has grown notoriously secular. In asking why people disaffiliated from their faith, the Pew Research Center notes that:

    Majorities also report disagreeing with religious positions on social issues, like ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and abortion, as a reason they no longer identify with a religion. And at least half of respondents in several countries, especially in predominantly Catholic ones, cite church scandals.

    This includes 58 percent reporting that they did not agree with their religion’s position on social issues, 54 percent indicating they did not believe in the religion’s teachings, and 53 percent being unhappy with the scandals. Gradually shifting away from the religion, which seems to capture a number of concerns, was the top selection.


    Pew flagged one country in Central Europe as particularly noteworthy: “The most dramatic shift in this regard has occurred in the Czech Republic, where the share of the public identifying as Catholic dropped from 44% in 1991 to 21% in the current survey.” The Czechs surveyed also “had an adequate sample size of people who say they were raised in a religious group and became unaffiliated as adults.” Again, “the most frequently cited reason for this shift is a gradual drifting away from religion (mentioned by 82% of Czechs who have shed their religious affiliation).” Also noteworthy was “loss of confidence in religious authorities (49%) and no longer believing in religious teachings (45%).”

    Some things certainly ring true across surveys: 8 percent of Europeans indicated that marrying someone outside of their faith was a reason for leaving their religion, while 9 percent of Latin American Catholics surveyed by Pew reported the same reason for becoming a Protestant. Sometimes, though, the answers are different. The Latin American converts to Protestantism offered reasons you might expect—enjoying the new worship style (69 percent) or seeking a personal connection with God (81 percent)—but 60 percent wanted a “greater emphasis on morality.” In the United States and Europe, the Church loses people for advocating for traditional morality, but in Latin America the Church may be losing people for not advocating enough for morality.

    With a few outliers, the same themes come up again and again in surveys and polls about loss of faith. I hope more qualified people will take action based on this data, but I have my own suggestions. We need better catechesis, which is obvious. We need to stop abuse scandals and remove that as a barrier to Church credibility. But we also need to address practical problems, like young people who stop attending Mass when they move away or go to college. Their former local parish could follow up with them after they move to provide encouragement to connect with the campus parish. As Catholics, we could also rethink the wisdom of sending kids away to college, particularly one without a strong Catholic identity or a vibrant campus ministry. When our own friends or family members discuss plans to move, we can ask them about the parish they plan to join.

    Ultimately, though, if our people do not understand why they should attend Mass, our encouragement will not succeed. Arguably, all of the issues identified above come back to catechesis. Professor Kenda Creasy Dean, a United Methodist Youth Pastor who worked with Professor Christian Smith on the extensive National Study of Youth and Religion, reviewed that data and concluded: “Exposing adolescents to faith, as it turns out, is no substitute for teaching it to them.”

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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #1 on: July 17, 2025, 11:40:04 AM »
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  • Why do people convert to the True Church.  Yes, we have apostasy and we are also in Latter times, and it is not far from ending.  Our Lady will Establish Her Immaculate Heart, God will have His Day!  A time of Peace will reign.  I do see conversions.  Why do they convert?  They are young people and they want truth!


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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2025, 03:27:04 PM »
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  • Lots of people won’t like my answer.  The reasons for “leaving” the Catholic Faith, even among cradle trads is that people never had it in the first place.  In addition to solid catechesis, Mass, Sacraments, daily prayer, the individual soul must be converted. By the soul, I mean the mind, the will, and the heart. It is entirely possible to be an intellectual marvel, memorize the entire Bible and the Summa, recite the Raccolta, in Latin, Greek, Hebrew, English, and four additional vernacular languages and STILL go to Hell.
    To catechism, Mass, Sacraments, prayer, outward devotions, meditation, must be added prayers and sacrifices for conversion, for yourself, from others, from the saints, for the conversion of the soul. It can’t be a one-time thing, either. It must be persevering, lifelong. 
    Remember Our Lady of Fatima told the children souls go to hell because nobody prays and makes sacrifices for them. We are Catholic, not Protestant heretics who “get saved” and think they’re guaranteed Heaven.
    Parents, priests, religious, other people must be seen putting their faith into practice outside the chapel, the school, the family, yes, out in the world. There’s nothing like persecution and martyrdom to convert souls. The persecution and martyrdom can be bloody or “white,” but it must be seen to showcase Our Lord’s love that the soul is willing to give up all else in order to attain to it.
    To the degree that is happening, that is the degree to which souls are being converted and staying converted. When it isn’t happening, there’s no reason to believe in Christ. It’s a lot easier to be a “good person” who is “not religious,” one of the “nones” instead of the nuns, (or brothers, priests, Saints.)  People these days are generally spineless wimps. Teach your children to become Saints, and if they reach maturity unconverted, keep praying, keep making sacrifices. So long as there’s life, there’s hope. 

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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #4 on: July 18, 2025, 04:54:06 AM »
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  • Lots of people won’t like my answer.  The reasons for “leaving” the Catholic Faith, even among cradle trads is that people never had it in the first place.  In addition to solid catechesis, Mass, Sacraments, daily prayer, the individual soul must be converted. By the soul, I mean the mind, the will, and the heart. It is entirely possible to be an intellectual marvel, memorize the entire Bible and the Summa, recite the Raccolta, in Latin, Greek, Hebrew, English, and four additional vernacular languages and STILL go to Hell.
    To catechism, Mass, Sacraments, prayer, outward devotions, meditation, must be added prayers and sacrifices for conversion, for yourself, from others, from the saints, for the conversion of the soul. It can’t be a one-time thing, either. It must be persevering, lifelong. 
    Remember Our Lady of Fatima told the children souls go to hell because nobody prays and makes sacrifices for them. We are Catholic, not Protestant heretics who “get saved” and think they’re guaranteed Heaven.
    Parents, priests, religious, other people must be seen putting their faith into practice outside the chapel, the school, the family, yes, out in the world. There’s nothing like persecution and martyrdom to convert souls. The persecution and martyrdom can be bloody or “white,” but it must be seen to showcase Our Lord’s love that the soul is willing to give up all else in order to attain to it.
    To the degree that is happening, that is the degree to which souls are being converted and staying converted. When it isn’t happening, there’s no reason to believe in Christ. It’s a lot easier to be a “good person” who is “not religious,” one of the “nones” instead of the nuns, (or brothers, priests, Saints.)  People these days are generally spineless wimps. Teach your children to become Saints, and if they reach maturity unconverted, keep praying, keep making sacrifices. So long as there’s life, there’s hope.
    Amen!! The little we know is exactly how little we know.....


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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #5 on: July 18, 2025, 06:04:40 AM »
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  • What I found missing in the opening post was the effect the human 'science' of origins had on the Catholic faith of humanity. A study of history shows the first attack on the Catholic faith that promoted agnosticism and atheism, began to emerge when freemasons promoted heliocentrism, the evolution of a solar-system, then Darwin's evolution, then uniformitarianism, the 'science' of billions of years, and finally the Big Bang. Thus the supernatural faith of Creation, the very first supernatural belief of Catholicism, was undermined by a secular natural belief in the world we live in. One of the reasons that gave credibility to these natural ideas of origins was that Catholic popes went along with these 'sciences' out of fear that another Galileo case could happen. Having been fooled by Satan and his freemasons into believing God’s ‘footstool.’ the Earth, was proven not to be fixed at the center of the universe as the Bible, all of the Fathers, and our senses show us, a so-called ‘proof’ that brought 300-years of ridicule on the Church, popes were afraid if they condemned another ‘scientific’ idea they could be accused of another such Galileo ‘mistake.’ So with popes of the Church now trying to convince all of theistic evolution, the supernatural element of the Catholic faith in Genesis was lost. The only converts theistic evolution brought about were Catholics out of a supernatural faith.

    As for other reasons, well I have known well reared Catholic children, even before Vatican II, abandon the faith in their late teens just to avoid having to go to Mass every Sunday. I know this because I went AWOL myself when I left school until I got married to a very Catholic wife and when I knew I had to bring my children up like my parents did me. I never lost the faith in those years, I just had other things to do on Sundays. That said, I have known very good altar-boys who after years simply lost the faith and abandoned the Catholic faith altogether for reasons unknown. 

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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #6 on: July 18, 2025, 08:22:37 AM »
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  • Lots of people won’t like my answer.  
    I don't know why you thought people wouldn't like your answer.  It's actually spot-on.


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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #7 on: July 18, 2025, 09:45:13 AM »
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  • I think it's alot easier to lose the faith in a time like today in our "society" of no true culture.

    We don't have communities. Brothers and sisters want to go out and do their own thing away from the family, etc.  We are all spread out, and it's easy to be friend non-Catholics who share some views we do. One thing leads to another.

    One common denominator I see for people that lose the faith is selfishness. It's always something related to that. Whether they admit it or not.


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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #8 on: July 18, 2025, 01:51:27 PM »
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  • Altar boys in my opinion left their faith maybe because they could not look up to the priest.  Priest may have boasted that he said /prayed the Mass in 30 min.  Boys being sɛҳuąƖly messed with. Maybe they would not respect the man who was a priest.  We know the seminaries were demonic in morality since the 40's? and very much more.  Very sad.

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    Re: Why Do People Say They Leave the Faith?
    « Reply #9 on: July 18, 2025, 11:11:30 PM »
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  • Altar boys in my opinion left their faith maybe because they could not look up to the priest.  Priest may have boasted that he said /prayed the Mass in 30 min.  Boys being sɛҳuąƖly messed with. Maybe they would not respect the man who was a priest.  We know the seminaries were demonic in morality since the 40's? and very much more.  Very sad.
    Parents today would rather have their children play sport on Sunday or do recreation rather than be altar boys. It's neo-paganism. If fathers would not keep holy the sabbath they risk their children not doing the same...

    The pagans and atheists do not want more priests, or they want perverted priests who let them do what they want ... meanwhile, these priests would extend to priestesses ... and this explains the situation we are in ....

    There is one good outcome from all this - the only people practicing tradition should be those who really want to be there. I can't be friends with other Catholics who are modernists - we don't believe the same things...or they believe in confusing nonsense ...