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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on April 21, 2022, 04:55:31 AM
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https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/portlands-persecuted-priest
Check out the video.
And there is already two percent and growing of sodomites among the laity who attend Traditional Latin Mass chapels including the SSPX chapels.
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1993 with the approval of John Paul II ( a Saint he ain’t. Mother Angelica was saying what the Pope should had been saying.
“Mother Angelica certainly did not pull any punches when she saw something wrong!
At one point during the festivities at World Youth Day in Denver in 1993, there was a production of the Stations of the Cross that featured a woman playing the part of Jesus. Mother Angelica read an article from The Denver Post that called it “ironic… since the Catholic Church won’t ordain women as priests.”
“No, it’s not ironic,” Mother Angelica responded, “it’s blasphemous.”
She spent the next 20 minutes or so calling out the “Liberal Church in America” for its dissent from orthodoxy, destroying good things about the Church, and its failure to attract new converts to the faith.
“I’m tired of your tricks,” she said. “I’m tired of your deceits. I’m tired of you constantly making a crack, and the first thing you know there’s a hole, and all of us fall into it.
“I’m so tired of you Liberal Church in America. And everything you’ve ever done is done in silence. Nothing, nothing you’ve done, from your witchcraft, to your anagrams, to your centering prayer, to all this Earth spirituality, to replacing holy water with sand. To destroying our churches and closing churches that are viable and ready to go.
“No, this is not an accident. We’ve swallowed this now for 30 years, and I’m tired of it. We’ve swallowed enough of your idea of God. You have really no God, you have no dogma, no doctrine, and no authority, because the only authority in the Catholic Church is our Holy Father and the magisterium, and you’ve disclaimed that.
“You don’t believe in the Eucharist, you don’t believe in the Immaculate Conception, you don’t believe in the Virgin Birth, you don’t believe in Mary’s power of intercession, you don’t believe in religious life, you don’t believe in being a spouse of Christ.
“You do believe in teaching to little children of the 3rd grade sex education. You do believe in forcing centering prayer and forcing inclusive language upon us. And now you depict Jesus as a woman. You are sick.
“But I admit you have a right to your ways. You have a right to think your own thoughts. You have a right before God and this nation to do what you do. But I resent you trying to destroy the Catholicity of the simple and the poor and the elderly by your ways. I’m not going to accept that.
“I’m a Roman Catholic. I’m a Latin rite. I believe in God as Father, creator of heaven and earth. I believe that Jesus is his Son, his only Son. I believe that the Spirit proceeds from Father and Son, that there is a Trinity. I believe that Baptism puts into my heart and soul that wondrous Trinity. It is not an initiation into a club.
“I believe that he died and he suffered and he rose. He rose. It wasn’t the rising of the resurrection of Jesus in the thoughts of men. It wasn’t something we have to remember. It was a physical resurrection. I believe in that, you don’t.
“But you spread your errors to children. And our children don’t even know the Eucharist anymore. They don’t understand that that is the Blessed Sacrament, that that is the body and blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus. Your catechisms are so watered down, they say nothing but love your neighbor. No, you’ve got to love God first. […]
“I don’t like your Church. You have nothing to offer. You do nothing but destroy. […] You can’t stand Catholicity at its height, you have to spoil it, as you’ve spoiled so many things in these 30 years. […]
“We’re not going to go for all those crazy things that you’re pushing out as new, and cultural, and American. They’re not American. America was built on God. America was built to trust in God. And you’ve made it pagan. You’ve helped to make this nation pagan.
“Because you have no spirituality that attracts. Your religious orders are going down. You don’t have vocations, and you don’t even care. Your whole purpose is to destroy.
“You’re not builders, you’re destroyers. I’m not going to take that anymore. I am proud to be Roman Catholic.”
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The deal with Rome with SSPX was officially made in 2012. This is being accomplice to sin. They already worked together to promote the killer jab. The sodomite communists who hijacked the church will continue to destroy traditional Catholicism from within as they are already doing now. They play games with phases and meetings. They are the ones pushing for mortal sin.
Many traditional Catholics are already obsessed with legalizing marijuana instead of taking action and prayers against the enemy.
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Just curious, from where do you get the statistic of 2% of Traditional Catholic laity being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ? Also, I’ve been to many chapels across the US, and I’ve never once encountered anyone obsessed with legalizing marijuana. :confused:
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Just curious, from where do you get the statistic of 2% of Traditional Catholic laity being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ? Also, I’ve been to many chapels across the US, and I’ve never once encountered anyone obsessed with legalizing marijuana. :confused:
Maybe you are naive. Didn’t you spend time in Kentucky with unholy Pablo and his gang?
Many people who attend the Latin Mass are living double lives. Of course, they won’t obsess with legalizing marijuana and mortal sin in person. Many also took the jab too. They do it on line hoping for it to be the law of the land. Children are rebelling including young girls who dress immodestly because they know their parents are hypocrites.
The survey data presented by Fr. Kloster show that 2 percent of Latin Mass attendees approve of contraception, 1 percent approve of abortion, and 2 percent approve of gαy marriage. Pew Research too has info on it too.
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The deal with Rome with SSPX was officially made in 2012. This is being accomplice to sin. They already worked together to promote the killer jab. The sodomite communists who hijacked the church will continue to destroy traditional Catholicism from within as they are already doing now. They play games with phases and meetings. They are the ones pushing for mortal sin.
Many traditional Catholics are already obsessed with legalizing marijuana instead of taking action and prayers against the enemy.
You're obsessed with talking about it... it's like every time this comes on
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It is normal for a Traditional Catholic to be disgusted by mortal sin that has hijacked the Catholic Church and has now gone global thanks to Luke warm Catholics. I’m disgusted by the silence and indifference.
When it comes to the mortal sins of the world , there is nothing to debate or dialogue.
Go debate Bergolio. He allowed homo porn artist to sɛҳuąƖly groom thousands of children on Easter Monday in St Peter’s Square.
Jesus Christ, have mercy on us all.
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Maybe you are naive. Didn’t you spend time in Kentucky with unholy Pablo and his gang?
Many people who attend the Latin Mass are living double lives. Of course, they won’t obsess with legalizing marijuana and mortal sin in person. Many also took the jab too. They do it on line hoping for it to be the law of the land. Children are rebelling including young girls who dress immodestly because they know their parents are hypocrites.
The survey data presented by Fr. Kloster show that 2 percent of Latin Mass attendees approve of contraception, 1 percent approve of abortion, and 2 percent approve of gαy marriage. Pew Research too has info on it too.
Thanks, okay. Approve of doesn’t mean they practice it, although it’s not far from it.
As for the mess that is Boston, KY, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not the problem, it’s uncontrolled heterosɛҳuąƖity that is the problem. Marijuana? I never saw or smelled it although there’s plenty of land to grow it.
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I remember that Disney movie "Pollyanna" and there was a very philosophical quote contained there - "If you look for the bad, you will surely find it."
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What Traditional Catholic would quote a line from Disney??? Disney has always been liberal propaganda but many have been blind and easily deceived.
I guess you aren’t 3rd Order of St Pius x.
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It's based on a book...:facepalm:
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You didn’t mention the book. You said Disney movie :facepalm:
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I'm no fan of Disney, but Pollyanna is from 1960...
Let's just say (((they))) hadn't pushed us quite so low down the mountain into the mire yet, as of 1960. We were in much earlier stages of our constant downward march into depravity.
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The survey data presented by Fr. Kloster show that 2 percent of Latin Mass attendees approve of contraception, 1 percent approve of abortion, and 2 percent approve of gαy marriage. Pew Research too has info on it too.
These are the sorts of weird results you get when you believe that all Latin Mass-goers belong to the same religion. They don't. The Novus Ordo false religion also offers the "Latin Mass" (I use quotes because it is offered by sacramentally invalid "priests" and therefore is not an actual Mass), and many of its sectarians attend those ceremonies.
But if you take a study of only traditional Catholics, who reject Vatican II and the new, false religion, then the numbers will be that 100% of them consider abortion, contraception, and gαy marriage to be mortally sinful.
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It should be 100 percent that reject mortal sin but in reality it isn’t.
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https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/portlands-persecuted-priest
Check out the video.
And there is already two percent and growing of sodomites among the laity who attend Traditional Latin Mass chapels including the SSPX chapels.
Those stats include the Motarians, and I knew a fair number of Motarians who only went there for the aesthetics, which attract in particular men of an effeminate persuation. So I suspect the number is lower among SSPX. In addition, that 2% number you're referring to isn't whether they're sodomites but whether they think that sodomy is OK. Many Motarians follow Bergoglio, and Bergoglio appears to condone gαy "marriage".
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Many traditional Catholics are already obsessed with legalizing marijuana instead of taking action and prayers against the enemy.
Take what "action"? Post about it on CI?
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Those stats include the Motarians, and I knew a fair number of Motarians who only went there for the aesthetics, which attract in particular men of an effeminate persuation. So I suspect the number is lower among SSPX. In addition, that 2% number you're referring to isn't whether they're sodomites but whether they think that sodomy is OK. Many Motarians follow Bergoglio, and Bergoglio appears to condone gαy "marriage".
If I had to guess I think a lot of those liberal motarians are boomers who have nostalgia for their childhood masses.
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If I had to guess I think a lot of those liberal motarians are boomers who have nostalgia for their childhood masses.
There's a mix. As for the effeminate men who are attracted to the aesthetics of the Tridentine Mass, they have that "queer eye" thing going on, where they do have good taste sometimes.
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I'm no fan of Disney, but Pollyanna is from 1960...
Let's just say (((they))) hadn't pushed us quite so low down the mountain into the mire yet, as of 1960. We were in much earlier stages of our constant downward march into depravity.
And the book was written in 1913.
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Talking and thinking about Sodom all the time can't be healthy.
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https://youtu.be/G2QQ3Npizsc
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And the book was written in 1913.
Back in that time mostly wealthy who never worked read non fiction while the working class read the Bible if they could even read.
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Talking and thinking about Sodom all the time can't be healthy.
Tell that to Bergolio and the clergy that sɛҳuąƖly abuse children. How many Sspx sɛҳuąƖly abused African children. Ignoring sodomites is the biggest problem. Sodomy is what is destroying the Catholic Church. It isn’t healthy to be silent and indifferent. In fact, many might burn in hell for being lukewarm.
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Tell that to Bergolio and the clergy that sɛҳuąƖly abuse children. How many Sspx sɛҳuąƖly abused African children. Ignoring sodomites is the biggest problem. Sodomy is what is destroying the Catholic Church. It isn’t healthy to be silent and indifferent. In fact, many might burn in hell for being lukewarm.
And your constantly obsessing about it is going to change what?
So people who don't obsess and post 5x per day about the subject are "lukewarm". Instead of posting here, call the SSPX priory to register your complaint ... of course you'll probably be ignored.
Pray for the victims and for the SSPX rather than obsessing about sodomy all the time.
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And your constantly obsessing about it is going to change what?
So people who don't obsess and post 5x per day about the subject are "lukewarm". Instead of posting here, call the SSPX priory to register your complaint ... of course you'll probably be ignored.
Pray for the victims and for the SSPX rather than obsessing about sodomy all the time.
I’m not obsessing about sodomy all the time. I see it in our schools for years and now in St Peter’s square for all the world to see. These sodomites all push the jab and masks too even in the SSPX.
You should do something. After all, you were a seminarian.
It is Indifference to sin that there is even a problem of sodomy within society. Obviously these adult sodomites are obsessing about having sex with children. They are praying to satan to make it legal.
How about Catholic men protecting children and women instead of allowing sin to take over our churches. That is the real problem. Catholic Men to take a stand for God and Family instead of pleasing and worshipping their sodomite priests and bishops. The Vatican sodomites have the strictest jab and mask policies then secular government. We don’t hear no objection from SSpX hierarchy.
To allow evil to infiltrate our Catholic Churches is mortal sin. For the Sspx to allow innocent people to be murdered by the jab is murder. To allow innocent children to be corrupted and abused is mortal sin on many of the laity for allowing it. They are no better then the novus Ordo laity who were silent and allowed innocent children to be raped and molested by sodomites posing as priests. After knowing about the sodomite problems in the novus Ordo, the SSpX should have learned their lesson and cleaned house.
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After knowing about the sodomite problems in the novus Ordo, the SSpX should have learned their lesson and cleaned house.
Well, they should have learned not to cover up the sodomy, actually should have had enough moral principles to not tolerate it in the first place, but "cleaning house" is easier said than done. There are some obvious cases, but sodomites are not always easily identified. Evidently you can spot them just by looking at them, so perhaps you could offer your services to the SSPX. Put the priests in a lineup and have them say a few words.
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To allow evil to infiltrate our Catholic Churches is mortal sin.
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Well, they should have learned not to cover up the sodomy, actually should have had enough moral principles to not tolerate it in the first place, but "cleaning house" is easier said than done. There are some obvious cases, but sodomites are not always easily identified. Evidently you can spot them just by looking at them, so perhaps you could offer your services to the SSPX.
Put the priests in a lineup and have them say a few words.
:laugh1::laugh1::laugh2: LOL!
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I agree with you. Sodomites are very manipulative and deceiving. They research their prey and their family life.
Most counselors, psychiatrists etc are atheists.
To hire an outside liberal protection company is not the answer. Most of those companies are pro sodomy and anti Christian. Place anti sodomy, divorce, adultery pamphlets so people can get educated.
As Catholics, we should use church teachings when dealing with mortal sin. That starts in the home.
Yes. We need to continue to pray for holy priests and our Sspx chapels. Send them anonymous letters or emails. Let’s hold them accountable to keep and peach the faith.
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The deal with Rome with SSPX was officially made in 2012. This is being accomplice to sin. They already worked together to promote the killer jab. The sodomite communists who hijacked the church will continue to destroy traditional Catholicism from within as they are already doing now. They play games with phases and meetings. They are the ones pushing for mortal sin.
Many traditional Catholics are already obsessed with legalizing marijuana instead of taking action and prayers against the enemy.
Where is your data to back up your statement?
You are beginning to sound like fr/b Pfeiffer who is a nutjob in his own rite.
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Maybe you are naive. Didn’t you spend time in Kentucky with unholy Pablo and his gang? What does that have to do with her question?
Many people who attend the Latin Mass are living double lives. Sin is EVERYWHERE. Of course, they won’t obsess with legalizing marijuana and mortal sin in person. Then what are you worried about? Many also took the jab too. And you know this how? They do it on line hoping for it to be the law of the land. Data, please. Children are rebelling including young girls who dress immodestly because they know their parents are hypocrites. Children have rebelled since time immemorial. Sometimes the hypocrisy is imagined, just as you imagine and extrapolate.
The survey data presented by Fr. Kloster show that 2 percent of Latin Mass attendees approve of contraception, 1 percent approve of abortion, and 2 percent approve of gαy marriage. Pew Research too has info on it too. Sin is EVERYWHERE.
my comments in orange above.
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As for the mess that is Boston, KY, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not the problem, it’s uncontrolled heterosɛҳuąƖity that is the problem. Marijuana? I never saw or smelled it although there’s plenty of land to grow it.
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Seriously though, you are right on the money, except Pfeiffer seems to like to associate with pervs (Cordaro, tetherow, roberts), and really likes urrutigoity ("would bring him here in a heartbeat.")
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These are the sorts of weird results you get when you believe that all Latin Mass-goers belong to the same religion. They don't. The Novus Ordo false religion also offers the "Latin Mass" (I use quotes because it is offered by sacramentally invalid "priests" and therefore is not an actual Mass), and many of its sectarians attend those ceremonies.
But if you take a study of only traditional Catholics, who reject Vatican II and the new, false religion, then the numbers will be that 100% of them consider abortion, contraception, and gαy marriage to be mortally sinful.
This is very likely true. No data I suspect, though.
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It should be 100 percent that reject mortal sin but in reality it isn’t.
And you know this how?
I suspect all trad Catholics hate mortal sin
but the devil is very strong and we have a fallen nature.
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My advice:
Let the dead bury their dead, and focus on following Christ and assuring your own salvation.
Leave Novus Ordo Watch and the constant train of Conciliar Church scandals to new converts to Tradition, who might be (severely) tempted to "go back". Perhaps for them, seeing the full ugliness of the Conciliar Church has some benefit -- to strengthen their resolve to stay in Tradition.
But for those not even tempted by the Novus Ordo, it's like finding a pile of poop on the sidewalk, and feeling the need to touch it, smell it up close, and even taste it. WHY?
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Ephip,
VCR is pretty much on the money about the SSPX's sell-out.
This forum is dedicated to the theme and is loaded with SSPX Resistance docs on the issue.
The Catholic treason can be traced as far back to Bp. Fellay's association with GREC, in 1998.
That's a lot of Cathinfo archive reading, but it may be worth the effort.
Current events show the SSPX is a "white sepulchre" traditionalist order.
Given their size and influence, this conclusion is devastating, of course :facepalm:
But their propensity to give cover to newChurch is a constant reminder of this betrayal.
At the SSPX Priory level, they put on a big show for Bergy at his blasphemous Fatima consecration.
While he slipped-in his hokey prayer, "earth mother" as a cloaked reference to his Pachamama idol.
For me, the absolute last straw is their wavering on the death vax.
Bottom-line, Bergy, the Jєω-pope, promotes it to wipe-out Catholics.
For those in-tune with this global genocide, it means all trust in the SSPX has completely evaporated.
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For me, the absolute last straw is their wavering on the death vax.
Bottom-line, Bergy, the Jєω-pope, promotes it to wipe-out Catholics.
For those in-tune with this global genocide, it means all trust in the SSPX has completely evaporated.
It's the truth out in plain sight, for those with eyes to see.
God requires this, that no one can claim to be a victim. Everyone who took the vax did so of their own volition, either because they let themselves be brainwashed by the media (which they already knew was full of lies), or they didn't trust in God.
That is why I know Trump is bogus -- thanks to Covid. So you see, God draws good even out of evils like the Covid hoax. It has shown every man of good will who is on whose side.
I buried the SSPX years ago. Yes, there is some residual good at this or that chapel, this or that priest -- but the amount of good done by the SSPX worldwide will decrease with every passing year, even as the amount of objective error/evil that grows as a direct result of them will grow with every passing year. Eventually, the evil will outweigh the good.
And at any rate, Trad Catholics had best make other arrangements NOW! for where they will get Mass and the Sacraments 5, 10, 20 years from now. Especially those with young children, like myself. If I were 90 years old with no children at home, maybe I'd just go to the SSPX and hope to get Extreme Unction when I need it. But that is not my state in life. Not where God put me in 2022. And so, God's will is clear for me. He gave me the knowledge, training, resources, and means -- as well as enlightenment about the situation -- to found and run an independent chapel. And so I shall.
From the very beginning of the Crisis (2012), I have felt strongly called to get personally involved in this chapter of the Traditional Movement, and to help organize/create a backup option, an independent chapel, in the San Antonio area. Right now, if the SSPX chapel went poof, the nearest Trad chapel (excluding Indult options) is 210 miles, or 3.5 hours away, St. Jude's in Houston. Way too far away for Sunday Mass, or even a monthly Mass. I'm not even being picky. I'm considering *all* Traditional Catholic options. Indult locations, usually a Novus church, with a Conciliar priest muddling through the Latin -- that's not a Trad chapel! Some cities have multiple Trad options, but we have almost NONE here in Texas. The SSPX is in Fort Worth, San Antonio, and Houston. The huge city of Austin *still* has Mass in a hotel only twice a month. Many parts of Texas have zero options within 4 hours.
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I’m not obsessing about sodomy all the time. I see it in our schools for years and now in St Peter’s square for all the world to see. These sodomites all push the jab and masks too even in the SSPX.
You should do something. After all, you were a seminarian.
It is Indifference to sin that there is even a problem of sodomy within society. Obviously these adult sodomites are obsessing about having sex with children. They are praying to satan to make it legal.
How about Catholic men protecting children and women instead of allowing sin to take over our churches. That is the real problem. Catholic Men to take a stand for God and Family instead of pleasing and worshipping their sodomite priests and bishops. The Vatican sodomites have the strictest jab and mask policies then secular government. We don’t hear no objection from SSpX hierarchy.
To allow evil to infiltrate our Catholic Churches is mortal sin. For the Sspx to allow innocent people to be murdered by the jab is murder. To allow innocent children to be corrupted and abused is mortal sin on many of the laity for allowing it. They are no better then the novus Ordo laity who were silent and allowed innocent children to be raped and molested by sodomites posing as priests. After knowing about the sodomite problems in the novus Ordo, the SSpX should have learned their lesson and cleaned house.
Translation:
"THERE ARE ALL THESE HORRIBLE THINGS GOING ON THAT ALL OF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT!!"
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Well, they should have learned not to cover up the sodomy, actually should have had enough moral principles to not tolerate it in the first place, but "cleaning house" is easier said than done. There are some obvious cases, but sodomites are not always easily identified. Evidently you can spot them just by looking at them, so perhaps you could offer your services to the SSPX. Put the priests in a lineup and have them say a few words.
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I agree with you. Sodomites are very manipulative and deceiving. They research their prey and their family life.
Most counselors, psychiatrists etc are atheists.
To hire an outside liberal protection company is not the answer. Most of those companies are pro sodomy and anti Christian. Place anti sodomy, divorce, adultery pamphlets so people can get educated.
As Catholics, we should use church teachings when dealing with mortal sin. That starts in the home.
Yes. We need to continue to pray for holy priests and our Sspx chapels. Send them anonymous letters or emails. Let’s hold them accountable to keep and peach the faith.
1. Data please.
2. Sounds great. When are you going to start?