Obviously that's only true to a point.  Certainly, it's quite evident that a woman wouldn't be walking around in public in just a bikini to look pretty.  But I'm talking about areas in which women may not understand how it might affect a man ... where they wouldn't be wearing something to appeal to a man (because they wouldn't be aware that it even does).  So, for instance, on the subject of high-heeled shoes, many women would not be aware of how these might induce a state of arousal in some men.  And I personally find most high heels to be UNattractive and rather ugly/tacky.  But they bring attention to themselves this way, and they're almost always seeking attention ... which is contrary to the attitude you're supposed to have in Church, that the focus should be on God and not on YOU.  But many don't know that the attention might involve a certain amount of sɛҳuąƖ interest from men.

When I was in the convent, we all wore those 1.5 inch high heels in plain black leather. These were the thick heels that old ladies used to wear, but they were not fancy. I would be surprised if these shoes are still made today as so many convents are now empty.

Cloistered nuns tend to wear plain black sandals (Clarks) or plain black shoes (without heels) that are still available in the stores (Keds and Hush Puppies).

What do the SSPX nuns wear for footwear?

I wear shoes for comfort. Tight, fancy shoes can do a lot of harm to the foot, so as one ages, the bunions and callouses earned during youth make walking difficult during the Golden Years.

Shoes can be very expensive, and they can fall apart if they just sit in their original boxes due to the plastics used in modern footwear.

I notice that there are a lot of women, especially aging women, who love to preach modesty to other women, especially to the pretty young ladies, but their preaching does not come from the right motive, this is charity, but from a place of envy and insecurity. Because of this, instead of cultivating a proper Catholic sense of modesty and a correct understanding of the value of chastity in the female gender, these women usually go to inordinate extremes of puritanism, just so they do not feel threatened.

I agree that there are often mixed motives, and this holds true also of men.  So, for instance, men who have strong temptations to impurity tend to be more zealous against modesty.

And, also, as I have pointed out, certain people, especially among Traditional Catholics, are motivated by an extreme zeal that's tied to scrupulosity, the need to impose perfection in general, and not even specifically just about modesty; these would have all women walking around in religious habits at all times.

Like I said before, in my experience the same SSPX young girls (and young mothers) who wear the provocative clothing to mass, are wearing the rest of the week: short shorts, tight jeans, tight tank tops with belly exposed, spandex leggings as outwear......... I see them about town dressed that way. The way they dress at mass is just the tip of the iceberg. If they would dress like they dress at mass all the time, it would be an improvement!

I write about this subject because I have a lot of daughters and have become aware of the "desease" spreading among the young SSPX girls. These girls are a bad example to others, a bad example of Catholicism.  I write because they look like fools, airheads just following fashions like dumb sheep. It is like watching a Jerry Lewis movie, him making a fool of himself, exasperating.  I do not write because of the lust it might inspire in men. I write to warn those women of the repercussions that such dress can bring, from men and from God.

Be sure to complement the young ladies who are good examples, including your daughters. : )
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Oh, and, "you're dressed so modestly today!" doesn't count!  : P

When a lady wears a modest dress that looks good on her, it's appropriate to tell her that her dress is nice.
It shouldn't sound like an attempt to get attention nor should it be so loud that everyone nearby can hear it.
An honest complement does a lot of good.
Often times you can see her confidence come out a bit more because she feels more attractive.
Some women spend a lot of money on their appearance.
But when poise and taste are combined it doesn't have to be expensive.
And when that's been achieved, it ought to be appreciated with proper intentions.
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Therefore, 
All a man has to do is say nothing to a woman whose appearance might be glamorous yet immodest.
In regards to the thread title, high heels do not constitute successful modesty, but that doesn't mean a lady can't have a modest appearance with moderately high heels, it's just not so easy to pull it off. I think it takes some practice, physical coordination and muscle tone for a woman to wear moderately high heels without looking immodest. If she's out of shape or tired or walking on a too-soft surface, she might have difficulty keeping her balance and that will compromise her gracefulness which could make her appear attractive to someone with improper intentions. She might be able to use this to discover what a man really has in mind, or to find out if he is capable of behaving honorably.

I will confess that I often hear the clod-hopping of women's shoes while saying my prayers before Mass at various chapels. It does annoy me and I think to myself, "will you get some quieter frickin' shoes!". But I just thought it was me. I have sensitive ears and if more than a few people are fidgitting in the pews it's like I'm hearing the load mufflers of rush hour traffic. I've had to stop and think to myself "everybody sure is loud" and they're just sitting there not really doing anything. I also never stopped to try to catch a view of what the clodhoppers were wearing. I was usually trying to focus on the alter or something. 

When a lady wears a modest dress that looks good on her, it's appropriate to tell her that her dress is nice.
It shouldn't sound like an attempt to get attention nor should it be so loud that everyone nearby can hear it.
An honest complement does a lot of good.
Often times you can see her confidence come out a bit more because she feels more attractive.
Some women spend a lot of money on their appearance.
But when poise and taste are combined it doesn't have to be expensive.
And when that's been achieved, it ought to be appreciated with proper intentions.
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Therefore,
All a man has to do is say nothing to a woman whose appearance might be glamorous yet immodest.
In regards to the thread title, high heels do not constitute successful modesty, but that doesn't mean a lady can't have a modest appearance with moderately high heels, it's just not so easy to pull it off. I think it takes some practice, physical coordination and muscle tone for a woman to wear moderately high heels without looking immodest. If she's out of shape or tired or walking on a too-soft surface, she might have difficulty keeping her balance and that will compromise her gracefulness which could make her appear attractive to someone with improper intentions. She might be able to use this to discover what a man really has in mind, or to find out if he is capable of behaving honorably.

In California, there are mandatory sex-harassment courses required of most employees.

If a woman is complimented by a man or woman, this could be considered to be grounds for sɛҳuąƖ harassment.

The rule in most workplaces is only compliment your girlfriend or boyfriend if you are single, or spouse and children if you are married.

The work situation is so bad as are the oppressive taxes that many are leaving California and moving elsewhere.

Very true. That is why it is so important to always keep strict vigilance over our most inner dispositions and motives when spreading to the world the Truth of Christ, making sure that we do it for the right reasons and not based on our insecurities, troubles, or selfish reasons. Pride is also a common sin confused with religious zeal. For often times "Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works."

From my experience a sense of humor is very important. I have found that people who are scrupulous, always lack a sense of humor. Anyhow, a sense of humor is not something you can teach a older person after they are past their teens, if you can even teach it that late.

MY mother once told me that she was glad I didn't go with her to a Novus Ordo mass that she had asked me to go to. She said that the mass started with the priest's procession to the altar being led by a perfect womanly physique 16 year old dancing girl in a tutu waving veils. I looked at her and said; "that does not sound too bad  to me, mom!"
My Mom cracked up laughing.

My wife always says, "Yeah, but did you get her phone number"? I always answer, "of course, but that is beside the point". My kids get a big laugh out of it. They get the point with humor rather than with vinegar. I use humor all the time like that with people. But that is just me.

High-heeled shoes change the angle of the hips and pelvis, as well as accentuate the calves and ankles.  They're calculated to increase a woman's sensual appeal.  And the higher they are, the more they have that effect.

And if you're not convinced, here's some "Jєω-science" to help prove it:



Jeremy Nicholson M.S.W., Ph.D.


The Surprising Power of Women in High Heels
Creative research reveals a striking response.
Posted Dec 31, 2014

Today, I would like to continue that topic with the exploration of women's footwear. Clearly, many women care about shoes and take great care to shop for them. Until recently, however, it was not known whether such shoe choices had any effect (beyond perhaps improving the woman's own self-esteem).

Now we know.
The Science of Sexy Shoes
Nicolas Gueguen (2014) explored the effects of women's shoes in a series of four experiments. In all of these experiments, Gueguen dressed a few college-age women in matching outfits (black straight skirt, white long-sleeve shirt, and black suit jacket). He then varied the size of the heel on the shoes they wore and had them participate in a series of tasks. For those interested in shoe specifics, here are the details below:

"New, black leather shoes were used: one with flat heels (flat heels condition), a second with 5-cm heels (medium heels condition) and a third with 9-cm heels (high heels condition). They were in fashion and considered to be dress pumps that enveloped the sides of the foot, the heel, and the toes, leaving the ankles and the instep visible. The shoes had neither straps nor laces. In the two conditions with heels, except for the length, precaution was taken to use the same form of heels: the top of the heel was 4.595cm² and tapered to 1.591 cm² at the bottom."

Gueguen (2014) then sent these women out to perform various tasks on the street and measure the reactions of random pedestrians. In the first two experiments, the women were asked to solicit participation in various surveys on equal rights and dining preferences. Results indicated that higher heels significantly increased male pedestrians' willingness to comply with the survey request (with high heels getting an 82-83% response rate versus flats 42-47%). Unfortunately, however, the shoes were not as persuasive for female pedestrians, who generally responded to the request at a 30-36% rate, regardless of the type of heel worn by the requester.

Experiment three measured the effects of high heels on helping behavior. The same group of women were asked to walk around in various shoes, accidentally drop a glove, and see whether someone would tell them. Here again, heel length had an effect on men's helping behavior. Men informed a woman in heels that she dropped her glove 93% of the time, versus 62% for a woman in flats. Here too, the shoes had no effect on other women's helping behavior; they consistently reported the dropped glove just 43-52% of the time.

In the fourth and final experiment, the female assistants were sent into a bar wearing different heel lengths. The experimenter measured how long it took for the women to be approached by men, depending on the shoes that they wore. Men again were swayed by a woman in high heels: The women wearing the highest heel were generally approached by a man around 8 minutes after entering a bar, as opposed to 14 minutes for a woman in flats.

Overall then, not only does a woman in high heels appear to be more influential...she is more alluring as well.

Are High Heels Right for You?
The choice of whether or not to wear a sexy, high heeled shoe will depend on your tastes and your audience. Given the research above, if you want to attract a man, persuade a man, or get his help with something, then you may want to consider a high heel shoe to do the job. Even in a business setting, you may get the agreement of more of the men in the room with high heels on.
However, it is important to realize that the persuasive effect of high heels does seem to be connected to their sex appeal. So wearing high heels does not seem to influence other women (unless you bond with them over a shared taste in shoes). Furthermore, if you would rather not use sex appeal to influence and get unwanted attention from men, then heels might not be the way to go.
Overall, though, there does not seem to be a negative response to wearing high heels from other women, or an overly overt sɛҳuąƖ response from men. Therefore, if you are in doubt, you might want a medium heel for a date or business meeting.

Conclusion
Who knew shoes could be so influential? Not only do they significantly increase the amount of attention a woman gets from men in a bar; they also make men more compliant to requests, and more helpful, too. If a woman is looking to increase her social or professional response from men, wearing heels could help.