Author Topic: What Does the Church Say About Immigration? (Read 5655 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2015, 05:02:10 AM »

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If they have skills that make them marketable - e.g., programming skills, a college degree, can adapt quickly to the culture/language, then I'd bring that group here. Others, likely not.

Because our unemployment rate for citizens with marketable skills is so low? College degree--basket weaving? Women's Studies? Multiculturalism?

I was going to mention something along these lines and yes, I think it might be a different story if they brought something profitable with them. I do not mean gold or money, I mean mainly spiritual or even simply morally profitable. But they bring their trouble with them, their Muslim / pagan faith, which can only bring more trouble to whoever allows them in.

At any rate Jen, we all look at the news with some degree of sorrow and pity, yet they bring most of their sufferings on themselves with their false religions and false gods. We all wish we could donate something to end or help fix the terrible situation, but because of the size of the problem, God will sort it out, I think only He can.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2015, 05:39:03 AM »

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Quote from: OHCA
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
If they have skills that make them marketable - e.g., programming skills, a college degree, can adapt quickly to the culture/language, then I'd bring that group here. Others, likely not.

Because our unemployment rate for citizens with marketable skills is so low? College degree--basket weaving? Women's Studies? Multiculturalism?

I was going to mention something along these lines and yes, I think it might be a different story if they brought something profitable with them. I do not mean gold or money, I mean mainly spiritual or even simply morally profitable. But they bring their trouble with them, their Muslim / pagan faith, which can only bring more trouble to whoever allows them in.

At any rate Jen, we all look at the news with some degree of sorrow and pity, yet they bring most of their sufferings on themselves with their false religions and false gods. We all wish we could donate something to end or help fix the terrible situation, but because of the size of the problem, God will sort it out, I think only He can.

Most of the people I know who are immigrants bring their Catholic Faith which is friendly to Tradition.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2015, 07:41:42 AM »

"Aged only 13, Kolbe and his elder brother left home to enrol in the Conventual Franciscan seminary in Lwow. This seminary was in Austria-Hungary and it meant illegally crossing the border."

http://www.biographyonline.net/spiritual/maximilian-kolbe.html

OHCA · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2015, 08:01:31 AM »

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Quote from: Stubborn
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Quote from: JezusDeKoning
If they have skills that make them marketable - e.g., programming skills, a college degree, can adapt quickly to the culture/language, then I'd bring that group here. Others, likely not.

Because our unemployment rate for citizens with marketable skills is so low? College degree--basket weaving? Women's Studies? Multiculturalism?

I was going to mention something along these lines and yes, I think it might be a different story if they brought something profitable with them. I do not mean gold or money, I mean mainly spiritual or even simply morally profitable. But they bring their trouble with them, their Muslim / pagan faith, which can only bring more trouble to whoever allows them in.

At any rate Jen, we all look at the news with some degree of sorrow and pity, yet they bring most of their sufferings on themselves with their false religions and false gods. We all wish we could donate something to end or help fix the terrible situation, but because of the size of the problem, God will sort it out, I think only He can.

Most of the people I know who are immigrants bring their Catholic Faith which is friendly to Tradition.

Before I left conciliardom, I occasionally attended Spanish "mass." Their children ran all over church throughout mass, wandered up on the "altar," teenagers used cell phones throughout "mass," and even the grown wetbacks walked all over the church shaking hands with EVERYBODY in the building during "sign of peace." It was obvious that they knew nothing of the "purported" significance of what they were interrupting--far from "friendly to Tradition." Similar experiences in 3 different churches.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2015, 07:10:52 PM »

The reason for all these refugees is the bombing of Syria and Libya by
the American and coalition forces. In Syria our media tells us that
the bombing is directed against Isis, and when it is actually directed
towards the Syrian Army and Assad. It you hear the X22 Report,
the International Bankers wants Assad out of power.
Even though he was re-elected by his people.
There would not be this rufugees crisis if it was not for this bombing,
and many refugees are very bitter they have lost family members,
relatives and friends. These people are going to be very bitter against
the host welcoming country if they participated in these bombings
or not that lead them to flee their countries.
Just like what the liberals have done to America, setting race against
race. Such as Blacks against Whites, and Mexicans against Blacks
and Whites. The globalists are doing in Europe and elsewhere.

Israel is not taking in any refugees.

Please watch the following video and see your future. and for
your children.

OHCA · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2015, 09:09:46 PM »

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Israel is not taking in any refugees.

Of course not. Only goyim countries are supposed to take in refugees, mix races, etc.

poche · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2015, 10:53:05 PM »

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Quote from: Stubborn
Quote from: OHCA
Quote from: JezusDeKoning
If they have skills that make them marketable - e.g., programming skills, a college degree, can adapt quickly to the culture/language, then I'd bring that group here. Others, likely not.

Because our unemployment rate for citizens with marketable skills is so low? College degree--basket weaving? Women's Studies? Multiculturalism?

I was going to mention something along these lines and yes, I think it might be a different story if they brought something profitable with them. I do not mean gold or money, I mean mainly spiritual or even simply morally profitable. But they bring their trouble with them, their Muslim / pagan faith, which can only bring more trouble to whoever allows them in.

At any rate Jen, we all look at the news with some degree of sorrow and pity, yet they bring most of their sufferings on themselves with their false religions and false gods. We all wish we could donate something to end or help fix the terrible situation, but because of the size of the problem, God will sort it out, I think only He can.

Most of the people I know who are immigrants bring their Catholic Faith which is friendly to Tradition.

Before I left conciliardom, I occasionally attended Spanish "mass." Their children ran all over church throughout mass, wandered up on the "altar," teenagers used cell phones throughout "mass," and even the grown wetbacks walked all over the church shaking hands with EVERYBODY in the building during "sign of peace." It was obvious that they knew nothing of the "purported" significance of what they were interrupting--far from "friendly to Tradition." Similar experiences in 3 different churches.

These are people who I see frequently kneel down and receive Jesus in Holy Communion on the tongue.

clare · « **Reply #22 on:** September 07, 2015, 02:20:03 AM »

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Israel is not taking in any refugees.

They're not Christian. Christians aren't supposed to emulate non-Christians.

Thomas777 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2015, 11:52:27 PM »

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One problem I see with a culturally diverse society (which will inevitably happen with loose immigration laws) is the loss of culture. For someone who wants to help anyone despite what race they are, I do have a strong preference towards people of my own race and culture. I married a white person, and couldn't imagine myself doing anything else, or my children doing anything else. A lot of people peg me for a racist for this, but I don't see anything wrong with wishing to maintain a certain culture or race in your lineage.

Also something worth noting- the US is made up of our ancestors who immigrated in from all over the place. America is, by it's nature, a melting pot. Though for a long while, it was largely a "white" melting pot, now it's a pot of all colors.

Ok, but I think your tastes in your family is your own business and is not related to this subject, so nobody here cares about your family.

The question concerns the church's teaching on immigration. The quotes show you don't have to accept everybody, to preserve the culture, but you should in the name the charity help some into your country according to the country means. That's what the Vatican did with the jews during WWII.

poche · « **Reply #24 on:** September 09, 2015, 12:43:37 AM »

Following his September 6 Angelus address, Pope Francis appealed to “every parish, every religious community, every monastery, every shrine of Europe” to show mercy to refugee family.

“Faced with the tragedy of tens of thousands of refugees who flee death from war and hunger, and who have begun a journey moved by vital hope, the Gospel calls us to be ‘neighbors’ of the weakest and the abandoned, to give them concrete hope,” he said. “It’s not enough to say, ‘Take heart. Be patient.’”

“Therefore, before the upcoming Jubilee of Mercy, I make an appeal to parishes, religious communities, monasteries and shrines of all Europe, that they give expression to an application of the Gospel and welcome a family of refugees,” he continued. “I address my brother bishops of Europe, true pastors, so that in their dioceses they back my appeal, remembering that Mercy is the second name of Love: ‘What you have done for the least of my brothers, that you have done for me.’ The two parishes of the Vatican will also in the coming days welcome two families of refugees.”

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=26041

jen51 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 09, 2015, 10:42:18 AM »

Thankyou, all.

Stubborn, I tend to agree with you. The reality is that accepting others into our country at such a large scale is not going to help us, or all of our neighbors in this world. I wasn't seeing the bigger picture.

I think our prayers for their souls would be the most efficacious means of help.

Graham · « **Reply #26 on:** September 09, 2015, 05:33:18 PM »

The Church says that states exist for the common good of their people. It doesn't take long to see that European politicians throwing the doors open to millions of mostly young male, high testosterone, racially and culturally alien Mohammedans, is the worst type of treason and liable to earn them a special place in Hell.

poche · « **Reply #27 on:** September 09, 2015, 10:52:17 PM »

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The Church says that states exist for the common good of their people. It doesn't take long to see that European politicians throwing the doors open to millions of mostly young male, high testosterone, racially and culturally alien Mohammedans, is the worst type of treason and liable to earn them a special place in Hell.

Now is the time for evangelization. It is time to bring those people to the truth that is the Catholic Faith.