Author Topic: Whites lack of empathy for other Whites (Read 13584 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #90 on:** August 07, 2012, 12:05:10 PM »

Roscoe, just FYI, if your two posts were in any way direct to or at me, have you still on ignore.....and hence, did not read.....hey, just like the old days.. :dancing-banana:

roscoe · « **Reply #91 on:** August 07, 2012, 12:31:46 PM »

I don't have Belloc on Hide.

Belloc · « **Reply #92 on:** August 07, 2012, 12:59:08 PM »

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Roscoe, just FYI, if your two posts were in any way direct to or at me, have you still on ignore.....and hence, did not read.....hey, just like the old days.. :dancing-banana:

if not directed to or at me, then, please dear fellow, carry on, dont mind me :smoke-pot:

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 07, 2012, 02:08:22 PM »

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When Father Junipero Serra founded the Missions on the west Coast Long before the immigration of Europeans to America - these Catholics were of What Race? If memory serves - Catholic Mexico was invaded by Free Masonic Americans and the Mexican War was a defeat for Catholicism. Slavery was introduced into Once Catholic Texas. The Catholic French Missionaries who evangelized the Native Americans in the Mississippi Drainage did not care that they were Native American.

Most of the ideas about Race and Racism come from the Jews and from the Protestants. I am appalled to see so many Catholics buying into their rubbish.

U are mistaken in 2 places. Fr Serra WAS a white European & I don't know of any Catholics that have swallowed the Judaix/ Prot kool-aid re: race. Maybe U have.

Malleus: Where in my post did I say Father Serra is not a White European? Secondly , Racism is not a Catholic sentiment - those who say it is are mistaken. I have no idea exactly what it is you are attempting to object ti.

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #94 on:** August 07, 2012, 02:20:33 PM »

Ridiculous? Do you know Clare the vast majority of children of black men in this country are born illegitimate.

Malleus: And in Appalachia as well.

Clare I thought you said children are a blessing, whether they are illegitimate or not?

Malleus: Didnt Abraham have two sons?

Just one that's not supposed to have any temporal consequences, where women and their bad choices are concerned, right Clare?

Malleus: "Holiness is next to GODLINESS" does not seem to have a racial component.

No, it's not, people can marry who they want. One has to ask why women choose the mates they do (and more and more often they do not wait for marriage). If they think it matters not at all if their children look like themselves and their ancestors, then it is probably because their minds are darkened.

Malleus: If they can marry whomever they choose , provided the mate be either Catholic or simply approved by their Priest to receive the Catholic Sacrament of Holy Matrimony - how then do your convoluted ideas about race somehow justify an insult like this? I am wondering how you arrive at the conclusion that their mind is (I quote) "Darkened" and yet a Catholic Priest and GOD ALMIGHTY through him is going to join the two as one in Holy Matrimony.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #95 on:** August 07, 2012, 02:48:02 PM »

A person must be under the influence of MKUltra to have roscoe on ignore, right roscoe? :smoke-pot:

alaric · « **Reply #96 on:** August 07, 2012, 02:55:18 PM »

Clare;

"No, but it is wrong to tell others that it is a sin to marry outside their race. "

I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth. But I encourage my children to stay within their race, we would like to keep a continuity in our family lineage. This is preferable, not an absolute. This used to be the norm at one time before the new age religion of the multicult took root. Now, when you make statements like this your a "racist" and a "bigot" for wanting to keep your racial bloodlines somewhat intact.

The same people parroting the party line on race are the same ones who would encourage your children to use birth control, make abortion available and condone same sex marriage, these are the pundits from the culture of death. Including the death of a race.

"It may not be a sin, but it seems a bit vain to me. It's God's image we're meant to see in others, not our own. Furthermore, there's no guarantee that grandchildren will resemble you just because your child has married someone of the same race. There's something wrong if your love of your descendants is dependent upon their resembling you. There's always the possibility of Down's Syndrome anyway."

Well that's the point, see I don't care if it seems "vain" to you, what do I care what you think? Do you have any children Clare? Why does this offend you so much? Where are you coming from in all of this? And I see God's image in my children as well, I don't see the need to miscegenate to go looking for the face of God, this is the agenda of commie racial social engineering, constantly mixing and melding to prove the point that "God is in us all". No one is disputing that.

"Your progeny are your own kind, no matter what they look like, or their racial make-up. If they are your progeny, they are your progeny."

Yes and no. But if you keep diluting the racial lines eventually you will be but a distant memory three or four generations down the road to your "progeny".
The reality is, race does exist and it is pertinent to the mindset of the norms and values within a culture or nation. Tell me something Clare, if every Englishman mated with a Bantu or Hindu for the next hundred years, your race and culture would cease to exist as we know it and the way things are now, you're on your way there now. But, hey, it's all good, God is in us all....... What kind of thinking is this?

We should all hold hands and sing "Kumbaya". :rolleyes:

Belloc · « **Reply #97 on:** August 07, 2012, 02:58:15 PM »

Alaric: "But I encourage my children to stay within their race, we would like to keep a continuity in our family lineage. This is preferable, not an absolute. This used to be the norm at one time before the new age religion of the multicult took root. "

Fine and good, I would prefer this if I had children, to be sure, but the Newchurch did not usher in multi-race marriages. happened all the time when Catholicism was spread to Africa, Asia and the Americas.......frowned on, maybe, but we never had a official racist attitude like the Prots did in their "churches" nor their govt laws....

Belloc · « **Reply #98 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:01:52 PM »

Alaric "But if you keep diluting the racial lines eventually you will be but a distant memory three or four generations down the road to your "progeny".

how so? would not the black child remember Grandma Clare? why not? why would a white g-child remember her, but not a black or mixed one......?? My G-mother died in 2001, my cousins daughter was about 4, she does not have too many memories now. We are all white, Western/Central Europeans.....

I know little of most of my grandparents past the great stage.....my dad knows little about his G-fathers father and nothing about the one above him.....

we are all whites.....society might teach her G-children not to like her for her whiteness, your Sharpton types, but the counter is family values and tradition......

alaric · « **Reply #99 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:07:41 PM »

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It may not be a sin, but it seems a bit vain to me.

I think there might be a middle ground here. If those who for some legitimate reason would prefer spouses (for themselves or for their children) from their own race or nationality would admit that those who choose otherwise do not sin in in the least by doing so, or are not to be segregated in some way, as if such schisms were permissible in the body of Christ, then I don't see that the Church condemns that either.

Segregated? Who's segregating anybody? But I will tell you this, racial groups naturally associate on their own, it seems to be inherent in human nature, probably for security and common interests, but whatever it is those of the same kind gravitate towards their own. One has to only look at nature to see the reality of this.

Separation seems to be the pattern in God's creation.

I did not construct the universe, God did. If this makes some feel uncomfortable, take it up with him.

Belloc · « **Reply #100 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:08:04 PM »

Alaric "We should all hold hands and sing "Kumbaya".

Where is Clare a bra-burning, liberal self-hating white? What she seems to say, and I, is that race divides are not Catholic in and of, themselves. The norm is within ones own race, but a mixed race marriage is more barred in society, then the perfect society, the Church........where man, woman join as Catholcis to each other,etc....race is 2nd to Fide.......if Trads only marry within race, might lead, in some areas, to a dying of the Trad faith, surrendered to the NO....

I know a family in my parish, guy appears Hispanic, maybe some black in him and wife is in part black. Her mother came to visit, is clearly black.....chidlren, clearly mixed. They have 8 kids, working looks like on #9. They used to go to SSPX and when my priest is gone, almost always are absent with a fill in......

If the trend continues, a few generations, you will ahve a large family.....keeping trad faith alive hopefully....

Trads will in time "out breed" if you will, the NO.......cannot guarantee this though, esp in areas of Asia, Africa,etc if not some mixing..........

would I want non-whites in family? prefer not, due to culture and history, but would I want my son or daughter, fi I had one, to settle for a liberal NO fellow white vs a mixed non-white? that is the question or, finding no trad white, no marriage-no kids, etc??? The picking out there is not always that good......some areas, worse then others....

Belloc · « **Reply #101 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:11:37 PM »

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It may not be a sin, but it seems a bit vain to me.

I think there might be a middle ground here. If those who for some legitimate reason would prefer spouses (for themselves or for their children) from their own race or nationality would admit that those who choose otherwise do not sin in in the least by doing so, or are not to be segregated in some way, as if such schisms were permissible in the body of Christ, then I don't see that the Church condemns that either.
Segregated? Who's segregating anybody? But I will tell you this, racial groups naturally associate on their own, it seems to be inherent in human nature, probably for security and common interests, but whatever it is those of the same kind gravitate towards their own. One has to only look at nature to see the reality of this.

Separation seems to be the pattern in God's creation.

I did not construct the universe, God did. If this makes some feel uncomfortable, take it up with him.

true, like stick with like, often more history then race......again, view Hispanics, though there is, kid you not, a caste structure and marrying a indian or black frowned on by the whites there of pure or near-pure Spanish blood, it is not the same as attitude in USA, Canada or Europe per se.

God did not seperate humans-8 were on an Ark and God, as clear from scripture, unites man to himself and each other in the Fide.......neither jew nor greek- and now, all others, but one in Faith.....

Belloc · « **Reply #102 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:12:24 PM »

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A person must be under the influence of MKUltra to have roscoe on ignore, right roscoe? :smoke-pot:

:roll-laugh2:

alaric · « **Reply #103 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:13:08 PM »

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Alaric: "But I encourage my children to stay within their race, we would like to keep a continuity in our family lineage. This is preferable, not an absolute. This used to be the norm at one time before the new age religion of the multicult took root. "

Fine and good, I would prefer this if I had children, to be sure, but the Newchurch did not usher in multi-race marriages. happened all the time when Catholicism was spread to Africa, Asia and the Americas.......frowned on, maybe, but we never had a official racist attitude like the Prots did in their "churches" nor their govt laws....

Let them all convert to the true Church and marry and prosper in their own realms, but we can keep the racial, linguistic and cultural lines intact.

What's the problem with this?

All this worldwide, multiculturalism and diversity is a Jєωιѕн construct.

It destroys races and civilizations, creates chaos. Nothing more.

Belloc · « **Reply #104 on:** August 07, 2012, 03:16:42 PM »

you are tying false multi-culturism, a secular brand, with what many of us are saying.....you are missing the point.....not the same point we are making as you are ascribing to liberal, faithless multiculturism.......no ad rem...missing history, scripture and the whole....

like conservatives that talk about liberalism.....liberalism to the Catholic understanding is more then red state/blue state or who is a Democrat,etc...

go back and read the posts.........I have, not the same thing you are ascribing to others at all.......