Author Topic: Whites lack of empathy for other Whites (Read 13557 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #120 on:** August 08, 2012, 07:19:54 AM »

Quote from: guitarplucker

This thread has turned into a debate about miscegenation. Miscegenation isn't a big danger to whites and it's not immoral. Most whites prefer their own, and the Jews can try to brainwash whites all they want but at the end of the day most whites stick to their own. I don't see that ever changing.

The danger to whites is that they do not have political representation as a people. Every other race does. Whites are only permitted political representation as individuals (libertarianism is the best example) or as ethnics (Italian, Irish, Polish).

This huge third world invasion of white-majority nations is the problem. It wouldn't be so bad if it was only occurring in diaspora lands like the U.S., but it's happening in Europe, the indigenous land of whites. We'll be minorities in our own ancestral lands soon enough. It's perverse! Can you imagine what the Chinese or Japanese would do if huge waves of third-worlders came into their nations uninvited? They'd either slaughter them or send them packing. It's interesting how no one ever accuses the Japanese of being racists for wanting to keep Japan Japanese.

We must remember whites did not agree to this invasion. Neither white Catholics nor white Protestants (or any other kind of whites for that matter) agreed to this. It's an achievement of the Jews and their gentile lackeys undermining the desires of whites.

Again, the problem in the West is that whites have no political representation as a racial unit. Kevin Macdonald says this will probably change in the near future. As whites become increasingly small in number and surrounded on all sides by antagonistic nonwhites they will start to align with each other and lose their inhibitions about pursuing a racial agenda in the open. I think he's right. I would happily align politically with a white protestant (on this issue) to stop this invasion.

Catholic and Protestant Hispanics and Catholic and Protestant blacks may be heretics in each others' eyes, but they sure do unite when their race is concerned. You can be sure of that. I don't see why white Catholics and white Protestants shouldn't be aligned on this issue.

as Catholics, we are united to other Catholics, no matter race, less soe with heretics,etc.....the point of thread is that some, instead of merely saying they prefer their own-fine nad good-have actually made statements, YET TO BE SUPPORTED by any official docuмents of Mother Church, that state the race mixing is wrong or will automatically, cause a collapse of society, chaos and the sun's supernova.........and the clear implication, that the white race is superior all in all, not talking about cultures, which may be superior, but that whites are God chosen, all others are in the crapper, Catholic or not.....

Belloc · « **Reply #121 on:** August 08, 2012, 07:23:18 AM »

Quote from: alaric

How far back can the average African go in his lineage?

kinda hard for himn to go back with slavery and its processes, now, is it not? Further, superiority is in a coat of arms?

I can trace my scottish clan, but not too far back with individual family members.....oops, then I guess I am inferior, now, aint I!.

Lets take you into bondage, forbid your tongue, tell you who you can marry, rip your kids away at infancy and send them here and there and see how long you can maintain on unbroekn family line and coat of arms.....a few generations of control, and one forgets who or where they come from, sorta like 1984 or Faherenheit 451.

Belloc · « **Reply #122 on:** August 08, 2012, 07:26:04 AM »

Quote from: Columba

Is it wrong for Catholic, Protestant, and non-Christian whites to cooperate against non-white immigration?

No, but it is less about race, more about faith.........would you restrict immigration to the 1000's of Christians fleeing Iraq/Syria more then Muslims, which in EU and USA, should be barred from entry.........

The Protestant ehos in the USA has always been anti-immigrant when it comes to Catholics, hence the persecution of Irish, Germans and others.....I dont want to "cooperate" with that. Cooperate with heretics against my own family?

Read about the St. Patricks battalion.....

Belloc · « **Reply #123 on:** August 08, 2012, 07:30:22 AM »

Quote from: alaric

Quote from: Belloc
Alaric "It destroys races and civilizations, creates chaos. Nothing more"

I see, so the culture of the Americas was destroyed with Spain and Portugal setteled the lands and the whites, indians and africans often inter-married.....I see, wow, missed that in Catholic histories of the founding.....wish those darned Spainards were more like the Prots, with slavery, brutal punishemnts, wiping out whole indian tribes and strict punishements for whites marrying outside......that way, todays Latin AMerica could have what we have-race riots, anger, bitterness and resentments for generations..........instead of the culture of Catholic Latin America, once a uniting force prior to globalization..
What are talking about? You can't compare to what a few greedy, gold-gloming Spanish venturists did to a primitive child-sacrificing culture in the Southern Hemisphere to the massive multiculturalism going on today.......or maybe you can as far as the natives are concerned. But whatever you do, please, don't hold up the Hispanics above the Anglo-prots anymore than necessary, they were just as brutal and corrupt as the Englishman, perhaps even more on occasion. Cortez and his henchman wiped out their share of "savages" themselves and there's a lot more resentment form the Latins today than any of the natives left on the Northern prot dominated realms.

And you're wrong as far as the Spanish whites go, the Mestizos now are the dominate ethnic in Latin America and blacks are gaining ground while the European Spanish/ Portuguese and Indigenous natives are on their way out.

Multiculturalism and diversity are destroying both their races and civilizations.

Case closed Belloc.

case is closed, you are brained washed by the Protestant history lessons of the USA....you are not getting it at all......have fun on this thread with your thinly veiled, racist and Protestant thinking.....you did not get my responses AT All......missed the boat for propaganda USA/Masonic/Prot style.......congrads!

Would have referred you to a talk by Hugh AKins on Americanism, have it and listended to it many times, but you are not interested in the Catholic history of the USA, just the pablbem passed out in Protestant leadning public education.

for me, done with this thread..a real shame Matthew is allowing this division and racism against other brother/sister Catholics.......

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #124 on:** August 08, 2012, 10:29:31 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: alaric
Quote from: Belloc
Alaric "It destroys races and civilizations, creates chaos. Nothing more"

I see, so the culture of the Americas was destroyed with Spain and Portugal setteled the lands and the whites, indians and africans often inter-married.....I see, wow, missed that in Catholic histories of the founding.....wish those darned Spainards were more like the Prots, with slavery, brutal punishemnts, wiping out whole indian tribes and strict punishements for whites marrying outside......that way, todays Latin AMerica could have what we have-race riots, anger, bitterness and resentments for generations..........instead of the culture of Catholic Latin America, once a uniting force prior to globalization..
What are talking about? You can't compare to what a few greedy, gold-gloming Spanish venturists did to a primitive child-sacrificing culture in the Southern Hemisphere to the massive multiculturalism going on today.......or maybe you can as far as the natives are concerned. But whatever you do, please, don't hold up the Hispanics above the Anglo-prots anymore than necessary, they were just as brutal and corrupt as the Englishman, perhaps even more on occasion. Cortez and his henchman wiped out their share of "savages" themselves and there's a lot more resentment form the Latins today than any of the natives left on the Northern prot dominated realms.

And you're wrong as far as the Spanish whites go, the Mestizos now are the dominate ethnic in Latin America and blacks are gaining ground while the European Spanish/ Portuguese and Indigenous natives are on their way out.

Multiculturalism and diversity are destroying both their races and civilizations.

Case closed Belloc.

case is closed, you are brained washed by the Protestant history lessons of the USA....you are not getting it at all......have fun on this thread with your thinly veiled, racist and Protestant thinking.....you did not get my responses AT All......missed the boat for propaganda USA/Masonic/Prot style.......congrads!

Would have referred you to a talk by Hugh AKins on Americanism, have it and listended to it many times, but you are not interested in the Catholic history of the USA, just the pablbem passed out in Protestant leadning public education.

for me, done with this thread..a real shame Matthew is allowing this division and racism against other brother/sister Catholics.......

Malleus: Belloc - I agree with every single thing you have said - it would appear that some here who consider themselves Catholic - somehow embrace their own culture over and above Catholic Moral Principles. As Catholics we are taught to see Christ in Our Neighbor. As far as I can tell , there are no Caveats to this.

Pax

Belloc · « **Reply #125 on:** August 08, 2012, 10:41:41 AM »

True, very true.

True story-my grandparents,now dead, were both born in 1919. Both had made comments over their lives that their parents would have been angry had they married an Italian, as Italians were the considered low in society (we had no blacks, Hispanics,etc).

The pereception of Italians, largely a result of Protestant fears/bigotry and AMericanism, ranked Italians as:
-low class
-thieves
-hot blood and could not control themselves

So, though both grandparents cradle Catholics, they and others were largely influenced to look down on their fellow white, European Catholics.......same to a degree for Slavic Catholics,etc.

How far does one take the purity thing?

No caveats.......

As noted earlier, I as a mostly white male (maybe fully, if family lore about an indian G-mother was false) generally am freinds with my own kind. I find white women the most appealing, followed, normally by Hispanics and/or asians. I have no close friends that are non-white. The wife is fully white....neighborhood we are in now, white (prior, a mix)...

But there is no Church law on outright band on inter-racial marriage......and many areas of world where the faith was spread that was far more marmonious with mixes of people.

Think of the Church 2nd century, in Africa-where whites, berbers, blacks,etc all mixed.....should not there have been some proof if problems? any writings by Mark or Athanasius,etc exhorting to stop mixing? No.....

We have a couple in parish, married now for 30 yrs, he is mainly black racially and from Puerto Rico. She a white, pale blond....2 children. He works a lot of Hispanics in church and unlike most, they are more active and participatory, though still not as much in the $$ department. Kids are adult, both clean cut, industrious-daughter is very pretty.

Shold they have been banend from sacramental marriage? are they now in sin?

No, despite societal prejudices, they thrived. We are all prejudices, I for one in my generation am not used to seeing mixed races together........sticks out and not always comfortable....often does not work out, again, due to society.......but, is it sinful? wrong? condemned? No......and again, in some areas of Europe and esp, the Americas, normal.....what unites? mystically?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #126 on:** August 08, 2012, 10:46:16 AM »

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So, though both grandparents cradle Catholics, they and others were largely influenced to look down on their fellow white, European Catholics.......same to a degree for Slavic Catholics,etc.

It wasn't because they were influenced by Protestants. It's because stereotypes often have a lot of truth to them. The same thing caused a lot of friction between the Irish and Germans.

The fact of the matter is various nationalities tend to have good points and bad points. And there are often good reasons to prefer to avoid a great deal of association with those of certain backgrounds, especially when it leads to one being surrounded by a social group with very different values.

Belloc · « **Reply #127 on:** August 08, 2012, 10:54:42 AM »

true enough, France vs Germany certainly true as is England vs Ireland.......

But, what was lost was a idea of unity amongst Catholics.

also, would disagree, the Protestants views and values do indeed find their way into Catholic thinking, such as alignment of Americanists and Prots at times vs Germans, Slavs,etc....

can never underestimate this and one sees it now in the Neocon movement...

I have no issues at all and can see positives with the old ethnic churches, certainly could have been a barrier against the Americianization of Catholics.....but same time, Catholics could have an arrogance about it ("hey, whats that dago doing in my Irish Catholic parish" sorta thing). We Catholics-now and even then, should have realized the divide-conquer threat from Prots and Masons,etc more.......

As I am devoid of languages other then English, would have loved an ethnic parish of German or Celt......
a yr or so ago, wore my kilt to CHurch (my padre is cool with that, very Medievelist). Wore it in anger over the Hispanic uprising, where they actually closed a church because the mexicans did not like the Columbian padre there.....
got tired of "this is my culture" thing, for them, over and against the Catholic culture as a whole (them vs the whites in pews).

Thought "hell with it, this is MY culture"...was not rude to anyone.....nor did I place it over/above the Fide and my relationships to other Catholics......maybe dow nteh road, might wear ladderhousen and Bavarian dress......esp as Kilt now too big since my weight loss.....

you know, most people asked me or the wife "isnt he ashamed to wear the dress in public"....most were Prots, though some Catholics.......it is rather unAMerican to show ethnic pride....

Belloc · « **Reply #128 on:** August 08, 2012, 11:01:37 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

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So, though both grandparents cradle Catholics, they and others were largely influenced to look down on their fellow white, European Catholics.......same to a degree for Slavic Catholics,etc.

It wasn't because they were influenced by Protestants. It's because stereotypes often have a lot of truth to them. The same thing caused a lot of friction between the Irish and Germans.

The fact of the matter is various nationalities tend to have good points and bad points. And there are often good reasons to prefer to avoid a great deal of association with those of certain backgrounds, especially when it leads to one being surrounded by a social group with very different values.

One thing is distressing, the fact that Hispanics have a lot of kids out of wedlock.....more a lack of proper cathecism then something innate in the blood....though most still very resistant to contraception and abortion, though thanks to the USA/EU/UN, changing slowly....whites can at time sbe over-Victorian maybe, but a lot less tolerance of fornication in Trad Catholic circles....though, more whites and blacks/asians in Catholic world contracept and abort.....

There is the old story about the Italian priest not being as upset over fornication as sins against fellow man, Irish priest could care about that and mor about fornication......again, lack of cathecisis and balance......

brotherfrancis75 · « **Reply #129 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:58:03 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Columba
Is it wrong for Catholic, Protestant, and non-Christian whites to cooperate against non-white immigration?

White Americans must open the borders to mass migration of non-whites, otherwise they will be called racists.

This is just a recipe for national ѕυιcιdє, and there is no limit to the cheek of those racial minorities with their self-righteous moral condemnation of those who resist the displacement of the white American ethnic group. Nor is there any limit to the arrogance and malice of the liberals and women who love to promote the advancement of minorities at the expense of their own nationality.

After all, we're dealing with people who make apology for scandalous civil marriages and who defend the impudent blasphemy of presuming to say that Christ wouldn't call a murderess a murderess.

We Catholics are and should be free to indulge in as much racial attitude as our heart's may desire, but only for as long as that racial attitude is CATHOLIC racial attitude. I need here to assure Mr. Belloc that I don't think that because our central dominant racial group (the white Europeans) should be confident and reasonably proud of all aspects of their heritage, that therefore any other Catholic racial group (however small or peripheral they may be) is or can be in any way "in the crapper."

EVERY racial element in our Roman Catholic world MUST be excellent and rightly proud of its heritage, if for nothing else than simply for the fact of their being Catholics. And however much some Catholics may (rightly in my view) condemn "miscegenation," we Catholics can only DEFINE "miscegenation" strictly according to our own Catholic religion and morality and not by any other standards. Above all not by ANY Protestant standard. So whatever race-mixing among Catholics may have occurred in the past has at the very least been allowed by the Good Lord and MUST be accepted by us all as (OBVIOUSLY!) God's Will. And we must as Catholics always accept God's Will with glad hearts.

So it's Catholic and healthy for our white Europeans to have every confidence and normal pride in their own group. Just like every other racial group of Catholics for as far as that goes. This is a case where more is always better. But when this morphs into viewing other races in a NEGATIVE light, then something has gone terribly wrong. Even our fellow Catholic ex-Jews have often been fine and outstanding Catholics, and if they have so often done that, then any racial group can do it.

How should we Catholics view the invasion of our shores by the millions from darker continents? Surely first of all as just punishment by God's Wrath for our many and inexcusable sins as a nation. It isn't as if we Americans and Brits didn't have this coming to us! We rarely reflect on what the grim shadow of Tyburn over our history actually means for us, but we are now beginning to receive the just deserts therefrom. Like Jefferson, we should tremble when we remember that the Good Lord is also just.

Secondly we should not blame the victims. Today's mass immigration is above all an ECONOMIC INJUSTICE in which the darker races are once again being subjected to another SLAVE TRADE, this time one of WAGE SLAVES. The truly guilty party in this is ONLY the Jєωιѕн USURERS and their willing Gentile APOSTATES. To blame the weak and helpless foreigners who are caught in the nets of our vast modern wage slave trade is to blame the wrong people. If we are serious about ending the current shameful slave trade, then we need to obliterate the existing system of MARKET BOLSHEVISM that masquerades as "free market" capitalism. Free for the Jew, of course.

We need our laymen to become modern day CATHOLIC "abolitionists" who will once again ride through the night bringing law and order to the land with fire and sword. No doubt easier said than done, especially when we see the awesome cowardice of our male population. But reducing our white European politics to single-issue problems like immigration or abortion alone is to reduce ourselves to helpless impotence from the start. What is required is an INTEGRAL Catholicism proud of our ROMAN CATHOLIC white European heritage that bravely DEFENDS the weaker races against our ONE common foe: the JEW. These are hard words indeed, but nevertheless truth needs to be spoken, and these words are IN TRUTH what MUST and therefore in due time WILL be done.

DEUS VEULT.

Malleus 01 · « **Reply #130 on:** August 08, 2012, 02:23:27 PM »

Quote from: brotherfrancis75

Quote from: Telesphorus
Quote from: Columba
Is it wrong for Catholic, Protestant, and non-Christian whites to cooperate against non-white immigration?

White Americans must open the borders to mass migration of non-whites, otherwise they will be called racists.

This is just a recipe for national ѕυιcιdє, and there is no limit to the cheek of those racial minorities with their self-righteous moral condemnation of those who resist the displacement of the white American ethnic group. Nor is there any limit to the arrogance and malice of the liberals and women who love to promote the advancement of minorities at the expense of their own nationality.

After all, we're dealing with people who make apology for scandalous civil marriages and who defend the impudent blasphemy of presuming to say that Christ wouldn't call a murderess a murderess.

We Catholics are and should be free to indulge in as much racial attitude as our heart's may desire, but only for as long as that racial attitude is CATHOLIC racial attitude. I need here to assure Mr. Belloc that I don't think that because our central dominant racial group (the white Europeans) should be confident and reasonably proud of all aspects of their heritage, that therefore any other Catholic racial group (however small or peripheral they may be) is or can be in any way "in the crapper."

EVERY racial element in our Roman Catholic world MUST be excellent and rightly proud of its heritage, if for nothing else than simply for the fact of their being Catholics. And however much some Catholics may (rightly in my view) condemn "miscegenation," we Catholics can only DEFINE "miscegenation" strictly according to our own Catholic religion and morality and not by any other standards. Above all not by ANY Protestant standard. So whatever race-mixing among Catholics may have occurred in the past has at the very least been allowed by the Good Lord and MUST be accepted by us all as (OBVIOUSLY!) God's Will. And we must as Catholics always accept God's Will with glad hearts.

So it's Catholic and healthy for our white Europeans to have every confidence and normal pride in their own group. Just like every other racial group of Catholics for as far as that goes. This is a case where more is always better. But when this morphs into viewing other races in a NEGATIVE light, then something has gone terribly wrong. Even our fellow Catholic ex-Jews have often been fine and outstanding Catholics, and if they have so often done that, then any racial group can do it.

How should we Catholics view the invasion of our shores by the millions from darker continents? Surely first of all as just punishment by God's Wrath for our many and inexcusable sins as a nation. It isn't as if we Americans and Brits didn't have this coming to us! We rarely reflect on what the grim shadow of Tyburn over our history actually means for us, but we are now beginning to receive the just deserts therefrom. Like Jefferson, we should tremble when we remember that the Good Lord is also just.

Secondly we should not blame the victims. Today's mass immigration is above all an ECONOMIC INJUSTICE in which the darker races are once again being subjected to another SLAVE TRADE, this time one of WAGE SLAVES. The truly guilty party in this is ONLY the Jєωιѕн USURERS and their willing Gentile APOSTATES. To blame the weak and helpless foreigners who are caught in the nets of our vast modern wage slave trade is to blame the wrong people. If we are serious about ending the current shameful slave trade, then we need to obliterate the existing system of MARKET BOLSHEVISM that masquerades as "free market" capitalism. Free for the Jew, of course.

We need our laymen to become modern day CATHOLIC "abolitionists" who will once again ride through the night bringing law and order to the land with fire and sword. No doubt easier said than done, especially when we see the awesome cowardice of our male population. But reducing our white European politics to single-issue problems like immigration or abortion alone is to reduce ourselves to helpless impotence from the start. What is required is an INTEGRAL Catholicism proud of our ROMAN CATHOLIC white European heritage that bravely DEFENDS the weaker races against our ONE common foe: the JEW. These are hard words indeed, but nevertheless truth needs to be spoken, and these words are IN TRUTH what MUST and therefore in due time WILL be done.

DEUS VEULT.

Are we supposed to say Sieg Heil at this juncture? This nonsense reminds me of Archbishop Thuc who was a native of South Vietnam and who wrote of the injustices visited upon the Vietnamese people by the French when they colonized Vietnam. Are we to assume that Archbishop Thus was somewhat lesser of a Catholic merely because of his ancestry? Certainly he wrote that he felt bigotry directed towards him. Anyone who understands that American Capitalism in this Country has provided wealth for many of the "darker peoples" and certainly they do not need any help from the superior Caucasian to get ahead in life. In fact - I believe in Titheing and if memory serves , isnt it GOD we owe of our wealth , thus the reason for the first fruits? Funny - perhaps you advocate a sub Tithe to the White Overseer merely because of his benevolence in allowing the darkman room to operate?

Do you see how nonsensical all of this is? Race is irrelevant. Those who make Race an issue do not seek to UNITE , but rather to Divide.

Pax

Columba · « **Reply #131 on:** August 08, 2012, 04:18:57 PM »

Quote from: Malleus 01

This nonsense reminds me of Archbishop Thuc who was a native of South Vietnam and who wrote of the injustices visited upon the Vietnamese people by the French when they colonized Vietnam.

By your non-Catholic morals that would make him a racist, just like the whites who complain of the real injustice and discrimination visited upon them by the present unwanted, tyrannically imposed pro-invasion policy.

Quote from: Malleus 01

Race is irrelevant.

Maybe to you, but not to the heroic Archbishop Thuc or to the racial/religious enemies of mankind.

brotherfrancis75 · « **Reply #132 on:** August 08, 2012, 04:32:34 PM »

Quote from: Malleus 01

Quote from: brotherfrancis75
Quote from: Telesphorus
Quote from: Columba
Is it wrong for Catholic, Protestant, and non-Christian whites to cooperate against non-white immigration?

White Americans must open the borders to mass migration of non-whites, otherwise they will be called racists.

This is just a recipe for national ѕυιcιdє, and there is no limit to the cheek of those racial minorities with their self-righteous moral condemnation of those who resist the displacement of the white American ethnic group. Nor is there any limit to the arrogance and malice of the liberals and women who love to promote the advancement of minorities at the expense of their own nationality.

After all, we're dealing with people who make apology for scandalous civil marriages and who defend the impudent blasphemy of presuming to say that Christ wouldn't call a murderess a murderess.

We Catholics are and should be free to indulge in as much racial attitude as our heart's may desire, but only for as long as that racial attitude is CATHOLIC racial attitude. I need here to assure Mr. Belloc that I don't think that because our central dominant racial group (the white Europeans) should be confident and reasonably proud of all aspects of their heritage, that therefore any other Catholic racial group (however small or peripheral they may be) is or can be in any way "in the crapper."

EVERY racial element in our Roman Catholic world MUST be excellent and rightly proud of its heritage, if for nothing else than simply for the fact of their being Catholics. And however much some Catholics may (rightly in my view) condemn "miscegenation," we Catholics can only DEFINE "miscegenation" strictly according to our own Catholic religion and morality and not by any other standards. Above all not by ANY Protestant standard. So whatever race-mixing among Catholics may have occurred in the past has at the very least been allowed by the Good Lord and MUST be accepted by us all as (OBVIOUSLY!) God's Will. And we must as Catholics always accept God's Will with glad hearts.

So it's Catholic and healthy for our white Europeans to have every confidence and normal pride in their own group. Just like every other racial group of Catholics for as far as that goes. This is a case where more is always better. But when this morphs into viewing other races in a NEGATIVE light, then something has gone terribly wrong. Even our fellow Catholic ex-Jews have often been fine and outstanding Catholics, and if they have so often done that, then any racial group can do it.

How should we Catholics view the invasion of our shores by the millions from darker continents? Surely first of all as just punishment by God's Wrath for our many and inexcusable sins as a nation. It isn't as if we Americans and Brits didn't have this coming to us! We rarely reflect on what the grim shadow of Tyburn over our history actually means for us, but we are now beginning to receive the just deserts therefrom. Like Jefferson, we should tremble when we remember that the Good Lord is also just.

Secondly we should not blame the victims. Today's mass immigration is above all an ECONOMIC INJUSTICE in which the darker races are once again being subjected to another SLAVE TRADE, this time one of WAGE SLAVES. The truly guilty party in this is ONLY the Jєωιѕн USURERS and their willing Gentile APOSTATES. To blame the weak and helpless foreigners who are caught in the nets of our vast modern wage slave trade is to blame the wrong people. If we are serious about ending the current shameful slave trade, then we need to obliterate the existing system of MARKET BOLSHEVISM that masquerades as "free market" capitalism. Free for the Jew, of course.

We need our laymen to become modern day CATHOLIC "abolitionists" who will once again ride through the night bringing law and order to the land with fire and sword. No doubt easier said than done, especially when we see the awesome cowardice of our male population. But reducing our white European politics to single-issue problems like immigration or abortion alone is to reduce ourselves to helpless impotence from the start. What is required is an INTEGRAL Catholicism proud of our ROMAN CATHOLIC white European heritage that bravely DEFENDS the weaker races against our ONE common foe: the JEW. These are hard words indeed, but nevertheless truth needs to be spoken, and these words are IN TRUTH what MUST and therefore in due time WILL be done.

DEUS VEULT.

Are we supposed to say Sieg Heil at this juncture? This nonsense reminds me of Archbishop Thuc who was a native of South Vietnam and who wrote of the injustices visited upon the Vietnamese people by the French when they colonized Vietnam. Are we to assume that Archbishop Thus was somewhat lesser of a Catholic merely because of his ancestry? Certainly he wrote that he felt bigotry directed towards him. Anyone who understands that American Capitalism in this Country has provided wealth for many of the "darker peoples" and certainly they do not need any help from the superior Caucasian to get ahead in life. In fact - I believe in Titheing and if memory serves , isnt it GOD we owe of our wealth , thus the reason for the first fruits? Funny - perhaps you advocate a sub Tithe to the White Overseer merely because of his benevolence in allowing the darkman room to operate?

Do you see how nonsensical all of this is? Race is irrelevant. Those who make Race an issue do not seek to UNITE , but rather to Divide.

Pax

Nishant · « **Reply #133 on:** August 08, 2012, 05:14:02 PM »

Christ said that all men would know that we are His disciples if we have love for one another. He prayed that we may be one under His rule that the world may come to believe in Him. If in the Church of God, men of different nationalites cannot live in peace and harmony, how is the world to come to believe?

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It is adopted, for instance, in the "Catechismus ad Parochos", which in accordance with a decree of the Council of Trent was drawn up and published in 1566 with the highest official sanction . In this authoritative docuмent we read:

The third mark of the Church is that she is Catholic, that is, universal; and justly is she called Catholic, because, as St. Augustine says, 'she is diffused by the splendour of one faith from the rising to the setting sun'. Unlike republics of human institution, or the conventicles of heretics, she is not circuмscribed within the limits of any one kingdom, nor confined to the members of any one society of men, but embraces within the amplitude of her love, all mankind, whether barbarians or Scythians, slaves or freemen, male or female.

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guitarplucker · « **Reply #134 on:** August 08, 2012, 06:37:39 PM »

Quote from: Columba

Is it wrong for Catholic, Protestant, and non-Christian whites to cooperate against non-white immigration?

Best question on the thread. I should have posted this question in the OP. I start out with the assumption that this is perfectly fine, but it seems the consensus says, "no."

Catholics align with other groups on a whole host of issues, but it appears the consensus says aligning on race is wrong, for whites anyway.