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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: When A Woman Says You're Not Listening To Me!
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2018, 11:30:15 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on June 23, 2018, 11:16:13 PM
You've denied this before, but you must be a frequent consumer/poster of similar content on other sites. The so-called "Man-o-sphere" is a network of sites on the Internet dedicated to opposing feminism, bringing back true masculinity, teaching men how to live and thrive in today's world, etc.

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I've visited such sites on occasion -- mostly out of curiosity or when I had lots of free time -- and you sound *exactly* like them. You use all the slang terms (MGTOW, LARP, beta/alpha male, incel, etc.)

I'm sure there's a lot of crossover between such anti-feminist quarters of the Net and white supremacist sites, for example. Why wouldn't a bunch of white supremacists be against feminism and looking out for themselves? In fact, I'd be surprised if they weren't!
Yeah, I've been to only a few other sites where people do use those terms (soy boy, LARP, alpha/beta males, etc.), but these same sites have actually criticized MGTOW and the "manosphere", too. I've actually heard "manosphere" more than just a few times (to correct what I said earlier about that word specifically). I thought you were talking about a particular site rather than the general term for a network of like-minded men discussing issues impacting men. I've never heard of the site "Red Pill".




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Offline MaterDominici

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Re: When A Woman Says You're Not Listening To Me!
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2018, 12:45:54 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 23, 2018, 08:47:10 PM
It's simple. A woman gets absolutely nothing in the wake of a "divorce" she files against her husband. No house, no assets, no wealth, no car, no savings account. Also, barring any provable threat to the safety of their children, the kids stay with him.

The only thing she keeps is what the husband gave her in the marriage.  He shouldn't take anything back that he gave or bought for her. "Benedict Arnolds" are no good.
You're going to have to do better than that. If he commits adultery an she exercises her right to leave as permitted by the Church, she should have the right to take her children with her.
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: When A Woman Says You're Not Listening To Me!
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2018, 01:53:19 AM »
Quote from: MaterDominici on June 24, 2018, 12:45:54 AM
You're going to have to do better than that. If he commits adultery an she exercises her right to leave as permitted by the Church, she should have the right to take her children with her.

Yes, if his adultery is provable, then she can exercise her rights as permitted by the Church, and carry out whatever is written out in the prenuptial agreement regarding spousal adultery (committed by the husband or wife), if it were to occur.

The problem with NOT having a prenup is a woman can "divorce" a man for no reason at all, and steal everything for which he's worked & built.
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Offline Jaynek

Re: When A Woman Says You're Not Listening To Me!
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2018, 09:48:46 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 23, 2018, 10:05:10 PM
Men are obligated to support their wives and children, as they see fit, according to their conscience, and they will be judged EXTREMELY harshly by God on the judgement day.  The court system should not be involved, except in cases of violence.
So if a man decides to abandon his wife and children, leaving to fend for themselves, nobody should intervene?  The children can be left to starve because we know the man will face a harsh punishment after he dies?

This seems neither just nor practical.  I don't see it as any improvement over the current, admittedly unfair, treatment of men.
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Offline Jaynek

Re: When A Woman Says You're Not Listening To Me!
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2018, 09:58:02 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 23, 2018, 10:13:29 PM
Wrong analysis. The man does, indeed, want to give himself up (sacrifice himself) to the woman whom he thinks he's marrying. However, when the woman files for "divorce", she truly isn't the woman whom the man loved. That person was a facade. The prenup protects himself from being sacrificed for the real (insidious) woman who hid her true nature or, for whatever reason, changed and became something monstrous during the marriage.
You are apparently assuming that there no good reasons for a woman to file for a civil divorce and that it only happens because the wife is evil and wants to steal the man's money. 

Back before there was "no-fault divorce" people had to prove there was a good reason for a divorce and it was harder to take advantage of the system.  You seem to want to use a prenup to compensate for the problems caused by "no-fault divorce".  I think that a better solution is get rid of no-fault divorce.
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