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What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
« on: September 28, 2025, 09:00:52 PM »
What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
Today I realized the the vast majority of those I associate with at church I've rarely seen off church property. This doesn't seem normal.
In the past, parish and home/civil life were much more integrated.

Re: What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2025, 09:18:28 PM »
I see no one no more.  I believe I have been shunned by these hypocrites. People are becoming cold and mean. 
How can they be members of any lay ministry when they can’t even be decent to each other?   Big show offs.  Hypocrites.  






Offline Mark 79

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Re: What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2025, 01:22:34 AM »
I think that Our Lady of Sorrows has never fully recovered from the battles, disaffections, and departures associated with the development and building of the new church. In my observation, the post-Fr.-Burfitt period (Frs. Riccomini, Stafki, et al. — Grrrrr!!!) destroyed the more sociable and integrated community that we had previously enjoyed.

There was considerable improvement since Frs. MacFarland and Pons (recently transferred), but still not a full recovery. Also the rapid growth in parish size draws from a very large geographic area, so most people don't even know where the family in the adjacent pew lives. Boyle Hall used to be a full gathering place after every Mass, but no longer.

Offline Matthew

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Re: What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2025, 07:45:41 AM »
I am still amazed at my mother-in-law's extremely integrated life. (I get along with her very well, BTW)

She has lived in the same small town (pop. 1000) since 1982. Before that, she was still within a 20 mile radius.
Her children all went to the schools in that town. So she knows a lot of families that way.
She has always gone to church at the local Catholic church (yes, she's Novus Ordo), so she knows all the parishioners. She's an "OG" parishioner.
She is semi-involved in civic events, like the annual raising of money for the volunteer fire department. So she knows people that way.
She currently works a few blocks from her house, at an engineering firm her son owns.

My point: all of her "spheres" overlap almost completely. Her church crowd, who she sees around her home or locally at the store, her past life, and everything else are all the same group of people. Imagine having all your "lives" overlap into the same reality. It's a blast from the past, when people lived in villages.

I, on the other hand, have almost zero overlap. There's my neighbors, co-workers (when I'm employed), Church crowd, past life up north, my college friends (for me, it's ex-seminarians), who my children know from music classes, etc. and never the twain shall meet. None of these groups know each other. No one is in more than one of these groups.

Offline Everlast22

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Re: What % of your "church friends" do you see off church property?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2025, 08:49:51 AM »
Personally,

I see quite a few off property. This increases when you get married, by the way. haha.

I highly recommend living closer to those who share the faith. I was a literal must for me, or I may have just gone crazy.