Author Topic: What is Proper Attire to Wear to the Traditional Latin Mass? (Read 12001 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #15 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:46:15 AM »

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They should wear chapel veils, black if they're married and white if they're not.

Never heard of that before. It certainly doesn't seem to be the rule where I went.

At your SSPX chapel you mean? Well, all parishes are different. Nowadays alot of parishes will accept any headcovering, unfortunetly. The original Canon Law stated that maried women should wear black veils and un-married should wear white veils. I don't really like women wearing hats because they can sometimes be a distraction and also they're really supposed to wear veils.

TKGS · « **Reply #16 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:23:18 AM »

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Quote from: Telesphorus

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They should wear chapel veils, black if they're married and white if they're not.

Never heard of that before. It certainly doesn't seem to be the rule where I went.

At your SSPX chapel you mean? Well, all parishes are different. Nowadays alot of parishes will accept any headcovering, unfortunetly. The original Canon Law stated that maried women should wear black veils and un-married should wear white veils. I don't really like women wearing hats because they can sometimes be a distraction and also they're really supposed to wear veils.

Original Code of Canon Law (1917)

Canon 1262 § 2. Women...shall have a covered head and be modestly dressed, especially when they approach the table of the Lord.

There is nothing in Canon Law about veils and there is nothing in Canon Law requiring (or even suggesting) the color of veil. Modest hats (I have vague memories of women in nice hats when I was very young) are completely acceptable in Church. What should not be worn, I think, are kleenexes because one forgot to pack a veil before leaving for church.

Colors of veils may very well be a local custom, but it certainly cannot be considered an "immemorial custom" as western women have been wearing nice hats for centuries. Of course, we can--and should--draw the line at the ugly hat that the newspapers are showing that one of the English Royal family members (or guests, I don't know which) wore to the big wedding in England; but since it was an Anglican wedding, I guess it can be excused.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #17 on:** May 24, 2011, 03:24:09 PM »

What colors women are supposed to wear obviously didn't just come along. This was a practice of the Church before Vatican II. Hats are better than nothing, but not completely acceptable IMO.

TKGS · « **Reply #18 on:** May 24, 2011, 03:59:50 PM »

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What colors women are supposed to wear obviously didn't just come along. This was a practice of the Church before Vatican II. Hats are better than nothing, but not completely acceptable IMO.

The main symbolism of black (especially in church) is mourning.

As I think about it, perhaps black is appropriate for my wife. She is, after all, married to me.

Sigismund · « **Reply #19 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:30:46 PM »

The TLM I attend is celebrated by an FSSP priest. Men generally wear dress skirts, non-jean pants, and dress shoes. I wear a tie, but many don't. Women wear dresses and much less frequently slacks. Some women cover their heads, some don't. This is the practice for Sunday. On weekdays most people are on their way to work and wear whatever they have to wear at work.

s2srea · « **Reply #20 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:26:10 PM »

So women shouldn't be dressed like this ad I just saw??!

:roll-laugh1:

s2srea · « **Reply #21 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:26:52 PM »

Matt- please don't be offended- I know you have no control over the advertisements. I just found it sort of ironic and amusing

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #22 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:02:08 PM »

Today at work I made the mistake of telling someone I spent hours shopping for dress clothes for Church.

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Coworker: They can't tell you how to dress for Church.
Me: Yes they can.
Coworker: No they can't.
Me. We are not a come as you are Church but we are an amend your life Church.

After my last comment he did not respond.

Darcy · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:58:46 AM »

I went by what we wore prior to v2. We wore round lace juliet style caps. I don't know the correct name for them. Or cage veils made out of netting attached to a headband in any color. Young girls did not wear black anything.

I felt that wearing a black chapel veil would be for mourning or during lent.
I didn't know that about the married vs unmarried.

I guess it sounds like it is up to the particular "parish" chapel to set the norms, as there is really no centralized agreements for Traditional Catholics.
In trying to come to agreement, how far back should we go? I am stuck in the 1940s-50s.

I feel like a stranger in a strangeland.

MrsZ · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:19:01 PM »

It's really difficult to find dresses / skirts, or other types of clothes that don't incorporate black in there somewhere. Sometimes I think it's because without consciously realizing it, there's a pervading sense among the designers that we are in fact, "in mourning" and black represents our "culture of death."

I, too, dislike black on children and young women. The veil thing is awkward however, for me, because especially at the "beginning to be a burden to her husband age" of over 40, black is very harsh against my face ... I felt like an 80 year old Italian widow! But I guess that's vanity, isn't it? :stare:

I think I would concur that you should go ahead and take your fashion cues from the women at your parish. Try to blend in as best you can with regard to color and style, while staying modest. I've found that dressing from another time or being too frilly or feminine in style is a barrier between developing friendships with the women at my parish (and truthfully, we're stuck at Novus Ordo land) so if you have a Traditional Latin Parish, thanks be to God and be happy!

Sigismund · « **Reply #25 on:** August 12, 2011, 08:32:34 PM »

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Today at work I made the mistake of telling someone I spent hours shopping for dress clothes for Church.

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Coworker: They can't tell you how to dress for Church.
Me: Yes they can.
Coworker: No they can't.
Me. We are not a come as you are Church but we are an amend your life Church.

After my last comment he did not respond.

That reminds me of a TV sitcom I saw back in the day when I still watched TV. One character goes to confession, and is surprised at the severity of his penance. Another character replies, "We are not a church for wusses."

Santo Subito · « **Reply #26 on:** August 12, 2011, 11:35:42 PM »

The minimum I'd wear is a collared shirt, khaki's, and dress shoes. Business casual would be the baseline. Anything above and beyond that is fine too.

Sigismund · « **Reply #27 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:30:20 AM »

That seems reasonable.

s2srea · « **Reply #28 on:** August 13, 2011, 09:49:13 AM »

I'm sorry guys, but I got a bone to pick with those who think a collared shirt is suitable for mass. I- mean, c'mon. At a minimum, a dress tie- if you don't have a suit top- fine, but wear a tie at a minimum. I've discussed in another thread why this should be so. Its an outward sign of respect. We are not a third world country; we have no excuses.

Here's a better question: What is a GOOD reason not to wear a tie and dress "UP" for our Lord?

Work: Keep a dress shirt and tie in the car- change in the bathroom.

Cant afford it: Go to the thrift store. If you still cant afford it- pm me; I'll buy it for you.

Sigismund · « **Reply #29 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:16:03 PM »

Kudos on the offer to buy a tie for someone.

As I have said, I wear a tie to Sunday or Holy Day Mass. I do not always wear one on weekdays. I don't think that is disrespectful, but I suppose we will have to disagree.