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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2024, 06:31:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: solitary Man on January 06, 2024, 03:21:09 PM
    There is also the issue of Carlos Acutis being a fan of Pope John Paul II and having gone to the new mass, I think that's why they want to canonize Carlos so much, another curious thing, the priest who works on his beatification, Father Marcelo Tenorio is a bit of a traditionalist , he says mass in Latin, he doesn't like Pope Paul 6, which surprises me, but most of his "devotees" don't like traditionalists!
    A "bit of a traditionalist"?  As in a diocesan smells and bells traditionalist?
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #16 on: May 25, 2024, 07:11:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on May 25, 2024, 06:31:57 AM
    A "bit of a traditionalist"?  As in a diocesan smells and bells traditionalist?

    Sure.  In the Novus Ordo, someone who believes in the Real Presence and has reverence for the Blessed Sacrament would be construed as a "traditionalist", whereas in normal times that was considered essential just to be Catholic.  That only goes to show how far gone the Conciliar sect really is.  That's why many in the NO consider Ratzinger to have been a "Traditionalist", whereas the Dimond Brothers were able to put together an hour-long video docuмenting from original sources the heresies of Ratzinger, many of which are breathtaking.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #17 on: May 25, 2024, 12:59:24 PM »
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    • I have no issue with the young man.  Many people operate as though the Church began in 1962, and it's all they know.  It's all part of the conspiracy of silence that squelches discussion of anything that happened before Vatican II.  He obviously believed in the Real Presence.  As to his fashion choices, maybe his family was wealthy and could afford to give him these sorts of things.  St Francis of Assisi came from a wealthy family.  Nobody can help what they're born into.

    From all appearances, he seems to have been a virtuous, pious young man.  Newchurch seeks to ramrod through canonizations of contemporary saints (so as to give legitimacy to the new order of things?).  Young Carlo can't help what people do with his legacy.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #18 on: May 25, 2024, 01:07:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on May 25, 2024, 12:59:24 PM
    I have no issue with the young man.  Many people operate as though the Church began in 1962, and it's all they know.  It's all part of the conspiracy of silence that squelches discussion of anything that happened before Vatican II.  He obviously believed in the Real Presence.  As to his fashion choices, maybe his family was wealthy and could afford to give him these sorts of things.  St Francis of Assisi came from a wealthy family.  Nobody can help what they're born into.

    From all appearances, he seems to have been a virtuous, pious young man.  Newchurch seeks to ramrod through canonizations of contemporary saints (so as to give legitimacy to the new order of things?).  Young Carlo can't help what people do with his legacy.

    Neither do I have any issues with him.  He didn't know any better vis-a-vis the Novus Ordo.  My issue is with the Conciliar Church canonizing him, which they're doing more and more for political purposes.  See, the Church used to canonize people who were exceptional in terms of their practice of heroic virtue, so they could be emulated by others, not someone who was above average in terms of piety, making it appear as though sanctity is accessible to anyone.  Of course it is, but it isn't to be attained by the somewhat "above average".  Again, nothing against him ... just against the Conciliar Church.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #19 on: May 25, 2024, 01:31:44 PM »
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    • In honesty, I do not think about Carlos Acutis and, in sincerity, you all ought not to think about him either.

    Why is his cultus even an issue for anyone here? It has no bearing on my faith since I do not recognise the post-1959 popes or what has eminated from their ape church. Pray for the repose of the soul of Carlos Acutis. That is better time spent than worry what the heretic Bergoglio plans to do.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #20 on: May 25, 2024, 06:54:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on May 25, 2024, 12:59:24 PM
      As to his fashion choices, maybe his family was wealthy and could afford to give him these sorts of things.  St Francis of Assisi came from a wealthy family.  Nobody can help what they're born into.
    It is somewhat irrelevant to compare him with St Francis.

    When brought before the bishop, Francis would brook no delay nor hesitation in anything: nay, without waiting to be spoken to and without speaking he immediately put off and cast aside all his garments and gave them back to his father. Moreover he did not even keep his drawers but stripped himself stark naked before all the bystanders. But the bishop, observing his disposition, and greatly wondering at his fervor and steadfastness, arose forthwith, gathered him into his arms and covered him with the mantle which he himself was wearing.

    Thomas of Celano, Vita Beati Francisci (“The Life of Blessed Francis”; often called the “First Life”)
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #21 on: May 25, 2024, 06:59:52 PM »
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    • What Elwyn said. Concentrate on the genuine time-honoured saints. And pray for the repose of Carlos’ soul.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #22 on: May 26, 2024, 06:11:55 AM »
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #23 on: May 26, 2024, 07:20:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on January 06, 2024, 01:59:54 PM
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    Wow! It cost that guy over 2500 euros to get dressed in the morning!!! :laugh1:
    If you look closely at his polo shirt, and the one from Tommy Hillfiger, you will see that it isn't the same polo shirt. And I would think the same goes with the glasses and shorts...
    This said, yes, his parents had money. But he would give his money, his shoes, food would go scarce, etc.
    I am not saying he is a Saint at all, but he was a good, holy teenager. He couldn't help the fact that he was born to parents with money...
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #24 on: May 26, 2024, 09:40:42 AM »
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    • From his Wikipedia page:


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    While in Meteora, Acutis visited an Eastern Orthodox church, met the hieromonks, and watched the faithful kiss the icons on the iconostasis.[60]

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #25 on: May 26, 2024, 09:54:54 AM »
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    • Only God knows who is a saint.  
    Many times these saints are a distraction from Jesus.  
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #26 on: May 26, 2024, 02:39:29 PM »
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    • I wonder if Carlo actually endorsed those pricey clothes and accessories?  Did he authorize the use of his name and photo?  If so, his sainthood is questionable.

    More likely they’re being used without his permission.  

    A Saint?  On what basis?  Are there a number of miracles for which there’s proof?  
    He sounds like a fine Catholic young man, a good example for boys to follow.  (I’m not getting into the specifics of where he went to Mass, etc.)

    What is needed to become a “Saint” in the novus ordo?  

    He already has a cult following? His being declared a Saint by Francis and friends has no bearing on my life as a Catholic.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #27 on: May 26, 2024, 05:35:54 PM »
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #28 on: May 26, 2024, 06:48:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on May 26, 2024, 09:54:54 AM
    Only God knows who is a saint. 
    Many times these saints are a distraction from Jesus. 

    No, the Church can discern and come to know some saints at least.
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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #29 on: May 26, 2024, 07:21:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 26, 2024, 06:48:56 PM
    No, the Church can discern and come to know some saints at least.
    You're right. The Church discerns who achieved sanctity in this life and holds them up for our imitation. The Church always first considered the candidate for beautification in conformity to the faith and making sure there is nothing contrary to the faith in the persons belief and actions.  Unfortunately, the Vatll sect doesn't hold the faith which makes it impossible for them to judge by the faith.   
    I will wait until we have a Catholic hierarchy again and in the meantime disregard all modern canonizations.
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