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Offline Miseremini

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Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2025, 11:45:11 AM »
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  • He's definitely no Jose Luis Sanchez del Rio,  the boy saint of the Cristeros!




    Jose should be held up as the patron of teenagers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_S%C3%A1nchez_del_R%C3%ADo#:~:text=Jos%C3%A9%20Luis%20S%C3%A1nchez%20del%20R%C3%ADo,to%20renounce%20his%20Catholic%20faith.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


    Offline SolHero

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #46 on: April 15, 2025, 12:16:41 PM »
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  • Interesting information here ...

    https://www.gloria.tv/post/BQkqjVETLrTS27hxisi31kAV1
    Yes it was an interesting article. Some quotes from people who knew.


    Offline Yeti

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #47 on: April 15, 2025, 12:59:38 PM »
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  • For those who haven't looked, it would appear that his wealthy mother paid for a marketing campaign to promote his "sanctity", having people write books, flyers, etc. ... while people who knew him remarked that he didn't appear to be particularly pious or devout.
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    Under the traditional rules of canonization this wouldn't get her anywhere.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #48 on: April 15, 2025, 01:30:13 PM »
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  • My two cents is that he was a Pious Chap. He was friends with a friend I know who was somewhat close to Carlo and he was interested in the Latin Mass and Traditionalism. He visited a SSPX Chapel in Italy from time to time.

    Point is that yes his mother has marketed him and yes he isn't Saint Jose Luis Sanchez del Rio however his website and the things he did at his age just by wanting to be a "Catholic" and no one else prompting him is what I see as the Holy Ghost guiding a teenager. Somedays CI should just be happy a teenager just wanted the faith but he couldnt be a "Based Trad" 
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #49 on: April 15, 2025, 01:30:49 PM »
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  • Under the traditional rules of canonization this wouldn't get her anywhere.

    Well, of course not ... nor would just a run-of-the-mill piety (though his closest friends had no idea), but it would require some heroic virtue and/or extraordinary circuмstances.  So just some average guy who basically appears to have the faith, i.e. isn't apostate ... exhibiting probably lower 50th percentile degree of piety compared to average people prior to Vatican II, is now saint-worthy.


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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #50 on: April 15, 2025, 01:35:07 PM »
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  • My two cents is that he was a Pious Chap. He was friends with a friend I know who was somewhat close to Carlo and he was interested in the Latin Mass and Traditionalism. He visited a SSPX Chapel in Italy from time to time.

    Point is that yes his mother has marketed him and yes he isn't Saint Jose Luis Sanchez del Rio however his website and the things he did at his age just by wanting to be a "Catholic" and no one else prompting him is what I see as the Holy Ghost guiding a teenager. Somedays CI should just be happy a teenager just wanted the faith but he couldnt be a "Based Trad"

    Uhm, not ... it's not about people not being happy that this teenager to some extent was drawn to God.  It's about the standards for canonization in the Conciliar Church, where it's political (or influenced by money).

    If you're going to start canoninizing anyone who's somewhat pious, you could canonize easily 25% - 50% of all Traditional Catholics.

    It's utter nonsense.

    Apart from heroic virtue, there should at least be something unique and noteworthy that would be put out there for emulation.  But there's nothing there whatsoever to distinguish him from any other slightly-pious kid who may have had the faith.

    It's insulting to the true pre-V2 canonized saints if nothing else.

    And, as mentioned, criticism has absolutely NOTHING to with being "happy a teenager just wanted the faith" (and because he wasn't a Trad).  What kind of nonsensical smears are you hurling at the critics on this thread?

    If he HAD been a "Trad", with all else being the same, people would still have the same objections.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #51 on: April 15, 2025, 01:40:38 PM »
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  • So, one of the things alluded to was how Carlo liked these comedy movies, with special mention of a movie called EuroTrip.  I didn't want to go into it, but if you look that movie up under "imdb parents guide Eurotrip" (in Google), let's just say that caution is advised even reading the description of what goes on in that movie.

    But, hey, maybe THAT is what the Vatican is holding out there for emulation, that teenagers can be holy despite being so ordinary that their friends barely knew he was Catholic and where teenagers can be saints even while watching filthy movies.

    I didn't necessarily want to go there, except for the nonsense in that last post.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #52 on: April 15, 2025, 01:43:13 PM »
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  • Uhm, not ... it's not about people not being happy that this teenager to some extent was drawn to God.  It's about the standards for canonization in the Conciliar Church, where it's political (or influenced by money).

    If you're going to start canoninizing anyone who's somewhat pious, you could canonize easily 25% - 50% of all Traditional Catholics.

    It's utter nonsense.

    Apart from heroic virtue, there should at least be something unique and noteworthy that would be put out there for emulation.  But there's nothing there whatsoever to distinguish him from any other slightly-pious kid who may have had the faith.

    It's insulting to the true pre-V2 canonized saints if nothing else.

    And, as mentioned, has absolutely NOTHING to with being "happy a teenager just wanted the faith" (and because he wasn't a Trad).  What kind of nonsensical smears are you hurling at the critics on this thread?

    If he HAD been a "Trad", with all else being the same, people would still have the same objections.
    1) I never disagreed with the points you raised, do I think he should be a Saint? No, because I agree Post V2 the Canonizations formula and system have been watered down (Why assume my opinion)
    2)My point is we are jumping the Gun on this and after reading the criticisms of Carlo wearing a Polo Shirt, I thought to share some thoughts and like I said I agree with most of the points you made
    3)Typical Lad moment jumping to conclusions saying i'm smearing CI.
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:


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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #53 on: April 15, 2025, 01:46:24 PM »
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  • Even where it comes to cases like St. Therese, were it not for her elaboration rearding the Little Way that the Church wanted the faithful to emulate, she probably would also have gone uncanonized, as one of many tens of thousands of devout religious who loved God, did their duty, accepted their sufferings, etc.  She worked no miracles and did nothing "out of the ordinary" otherwise, was not incorrupt, etc.  Were it not for the Little Way, there wouldn't be anything that the Church would have to hold out there for emulation that any other devout nun had been putting into practice.

    So when the Church canonizes people, it's really only partly about the individual, since that individual is a saint (or not) whether the Church declares it or not ... but it's mostly about the "message" being sent to the faithful, and examples to be followed.

    What's the message about Acutis?  You can be a regular ordinary run-of-the-mill teenager but be interested in the faith some, and that's worthy of canonziation?  I would think that it's setting the bar pretty low, and if you set the bar so low, you know that most people will fall short of the bar, and that is precisely the reason for setting the bar higher.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #54 on: April 15, 2025, 01:47:19 PM »
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  • In any case, this criticism has nothing to do with Acutis.  It's a criticism of the Conciliar Church sham canonizations.  We all to a person hope that Acutis is currenly a saint in heaven, but that doesn't mean he should have been canonized.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #55 on: April 15, 2025, 01:52:20 PM »
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  • In any case, this criticism has nothing to do with Acutis.  It's a criticism of the Conciliar Church sham canonizations.  We all to a person hope that Acutis is currenly a saint in heaven, but that doesn't mean he should have been canonized.
    I fully agree with that :incense:

    Hope Acutis is in Heaven
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:


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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #56 on: April 15, 2025, 04:04:51 PM »
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  • Coincidence?

    Fr. Stephen Lefort 🍄 on X: "Someone just pointed out to me the arm band on Carlos Acutis’ jacket says “1958” on it… I wonder what happened in 1958 that those who dressed his corpse meant to state by it? I just find it a little odd 🧐 😉 https://t.co/p8NSfIWvQN" / X (twitter.com)

    The sleeve of the jacket that Carlo was buried in has the number "1958" on it.

    1958 being the year when the jews achieved the pinnacle of ecclesiastical Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ with Roncali’s usurpation of the papacy.  

    The key quote of the day then, was by Holy Padre Pio, who told Father Luigi Villa in 1959 that, “… masonry had reached the slippers of the Pope.”
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #57 on: April 15, 2025, 04:39:05 PM »
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  • Even if he was a trad or from the number a sede that doesn’t make him automatically a saint we aren’t Protestants. The only thing that muskets us know he was a saint is if he was canonised by an actual pope, and he wasn’t 

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #58 on: April 21, 2025, 06:56:19 PM »
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  • Carlo Acutis was to be canonized on "Divine Mercy Sunday" April 27th. With the death of Pope Francis, that event has been postponed.

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    Re: What do you think of Blessed Carlos Acutis?
    « Reply #59 on: April 21, 2025, 08:44:18 PM »
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  • May God bless you and keep you