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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: soulguard on January 25, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
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I might study it in college and have done 1 year of it before. I am fascinated by it and write my own theories about it. What do people think of studying it? There are plenty of jobs for those with a psych degree.
I was thinking about either clinical or counseling psych.
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If you were to pursue this, I highly, highly recommend focusing your practice on catholics seeking sanctification and salvation, not practicing with any other counselors and keeping yourself under the direct care of a spiritual director.
Here is my thinking behind this:
First, you'll find out very quickly that the stated goals of psychological counseling are not the practical goals. In practice, most counselors are looking to keep people coming back for counseling in order to ensure a paycheck and not helping people. They spend a lot of time on self-actualization, which is just a fancy word for pursuing all of your worldly desires and not seeking to save your soul.
Psychology does not comprehend mortification. It only comprehends human nature, so it can only operate within those bounds. As a catholic, you would have an edge on everyone else because you do comprehend self-denial as a path to becoming a better person, with the greater benefit of helping people to grow in sanctity.
So far as my own studies have taken me, I have not found anything in the science of psychology which works in opposition to catholic teaching. However, popular theories like feminism and sɛҳuąƖ freedom which are becoming popular to propagate in the fields of counseling are so popular because they keep people coming back for more by making them miserable. I despise this tactic and I have no respect whatsoever for psychologists who adapt popular social standards as psychological and scientific fact. It does nothing but make people unhappy and it drives them to misery and despair. Which of course, keeps them in counseling. If you endeavor to avoid adapting popular social theories, and stick to the goals of catholic life, you'll be successful because you'll be helping people to live in reality.
Of course, I advise keeping yourself firmly under the care of a good spiritual director because it is so easy to be mislead by what's popular in psychology now. You open yourself up to a lot of information contrary to tradition and doctrine, so you'll need a safe haven and someone to help you to keep it all in a catholic perspective. My personal reason for recommending this is because it took many years of untangling all of the misinformation and lies to get my mind right with Catholicism, and I'm nowhere near finished undoing the damage, so tread carefully.
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Overall, from a career standpoint it is an awful major unless you are willing to get a Phd and have good enough grades to compete in the academic field. That means an ivy league school and high tuition.
The other option would be psychiatry which means a medical degree which translates into getting into medical school and becoming a medical doctor. Then you can prescribe drugs and make a fortune.
I don't have a lot of respect for the field. psychology is a soft science. If I had the choice between psychology and sociology, I would prefer the later.
Anyway, a psychology degree might get you a job as a youth counselor in a group home for $12 an hour if you are lucky.
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I like the idea of working with those whom the world has trodden upon and whom nobody cares about. If I had such a job, I would not be able to preach to them other than saying that I was a Catholic if they asked me. The conversion would have to be done by someone else. It would only be a corporeal work of mercy to help people in that job, it would not be about trying to convert people and I know that.
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Overall, from a career standpoint it is an awful major unless you are willing to get a Phd and have good enough grades to compete in the academic field. That means an ivy league school and high tuition.
The other option would be psychiatry which means a medical degree which translates into getting into medical school and becoming a medical doctor. Then you can prescribe drugs and make a fortune.
I don't have a lot of respect for the field. psychology is a soft science. If I had the choice between psychology and sociology, I would prefer the later.
Anyway, a psychology degree might get you a job as a youth counselor in a group home for $12 an hour if you are lucky.
I would not go into psychiatry, although I know clinical psychology is in that field. One needs to be a doctor ( 8 years study) then specialize in psychiatry ( 12 years ) before one is a psychiatrist. You need to have an MD to be a consultant. I dont have the grades to study medicine, and in this country you need to have those grades in a test at age 17 or 18. I am not willing to go back to do that test. Instead a degree in psychology is open to me, and I know that there are many jobs available in that field. One could be a councilor or rehab worker or some such job. Clinical psychologists are very highly paid. Nothing equals the salary of a consultant psychiatrist, in my country they get 300,000 Euro a year, but I don't have ambitions to be rich, nor to work in such an unproductive job. Prescribing medication for behavior problems is not my thing. I am sure that many people with problems would want to have psychotherapy and counseling without the prospect of being medicated, and in that situation, perhaps there is an opportunity to speak about the faith as well. Some of the most religious people have been before psychiatrists before and carry diagnoses. I think they would avail of the services of a counseller, or if not, there are jobs in schools and hospitals where I could help those whom society has forgotten about, and pray for them at the same time. I think this is for me ( if other plans are not possible).
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Overall, from a career standpoint it is an awful major unless you are willing to get a Phd and have good enough grades to compete in the academic field. That means an ivy league school and high tuition.
The other option would be psychiatry which means a medical degree which translates into getting into medical school and becoming a medical doctor. Then you can prescribe drugs and make a fortune.
I don't have a lot of respect for the field. psychology is a soft science. If I had the choice between psychology and sociology, I would prefer the later.
Anyway, a psychology degree might get you a job as a youth counselor in a group home for $12 an hour if you are lucky.
I would not go into psychiatry, although I know clinical psychology is in that field. One needs to be a doctor ( 8 years study) then specialize in psychiatry ( 12 years ) before one is a psychiatrist. You need to have an MD to be a consultant. I dont have the grades to study medicine, and in this country you need to have those grades in a test at age 17 or 18. I am not willing to go back to do that test. Instead a degree in psychology is open to me, and I know that there are many jobs available in that field. One could be a councilor or rehab worker or some such job. Clinical psychologists are very highly paid. Nothing equals the salary of a consultant psychiatrist, in my country they get 300,000 Euro a year, but I don't have ambitions to be rich, nor to work in such an unproductive job. Prescribing medication for behavior problems is not my thing. I am sure that many people with problems would want to have psychotherapy and counseling without the prospect of being medicated, and in that situation, perhaps there is an opportunity to speak about the faith as well. Some of the most religious people have been before psychiatrists before and carry diagnoses. I think they would avail of the services of a counseller, or if not, there are jobs in schools and hospitals where I could help those whom society has forgotten about, and pray for them at the same time. I think this is for me ( if other plans are not possible).
Good luck. In the USA, if you want to get anywhere near being a counselor you better have at least a masters degree.
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Unless you get an advanced degree, there are few places that will hire you freshly graduated with no field experience, with just basic a Psych. degree. There are just too many people competing for jobs with 4year degrees now. If you want to stand out, you have to go beyond that or have some kind of experience that makes you stand out.
It isn't a bad profession within the mental health field. Often, you help the individual by making recommendations for his treatment plan. Most psychologists tend to do paperwork more than field work.
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Overall, from a career standpoint it is an awful major unless you are willing to get a Phd and have good enough grades to compete in the academic field. That means an ivy league school and high tuition.
The other option would be psychiatry which means a medical degree which translates into getting into medical school and becoming a medical doctor. Then you can prescribe drugs and make a fortune.
I don't have a lot of respect for the field. psychology is a soft science. If I had the choice between psychology and sociology, I would prefer the later.
Anyway, a psychology degree might get you a job as a youth counselor in a group home for $12 an hour if you are lucky.
I would not go into psychiatry, although I know clinical psychology is in that field. One needs to be a doctor ( 8 years study) then specialize in psychiatry ( 12 years ) before one is a psychiatrist. You need to have an MD to be a consultant. I dont have the grades to study medicine, and in this country you need to have those grades in a test at age 17 or 18. I am not willing to go back to do that test. Instead a degree in psychology is open to me, and I know that there are many jobs available in that field. One could be a councilor or rehab worker or some such job. Clinical psychologists are very highly paid. Nothing equals the salary of a consultant psychiatrist, in my country they get 300,000 Euro a year, but I don't have ambitions to be rich, nor to work in such an unproductive job. Prescribing medication for behavior problems is not my thing. I am sure that many people with problems would want to have psychotherapy and counseling without the prospect of being medicated, and in that situation, perhaps there is an opportunity to speak about the faith as well. Some of the most religious people have been before psychiatrists before and carry diagnoses. I think they would avail of the services of a counseller, or if not, there are jobs in schools and hospitals where I could help those whom society has forgotten about, and pray for them at the same time. I think this is for me ( if other plans are not possible).
Good luck. In the USA, if you want to get anywhere near being a counselor you better have at least a masters degree.
In my country a degree in psych is 4 years. An additional 2 years is required for counselling psychology. 3 years for clinical and forensic.
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Unless you get an advanced degree, there are few places that will hire you freshly graduated with no field experience, with just basic a Psych. degree. There are just too many people competing for jobs with 4year degrees now. If you want to stand out, you have to go beyond that or have some kind of experience that makes you stand out.
It isn't a bad profession within the mental health field. Often, you help the individual by making recommendations for his treatment plan. Most psychologists tend to do paperwork more than field work.
You are right, it is very competitive.
I would recommend that while in college getting a job or having volunteer work in assisted care living or at a hospital. At least 20 hours a week for 2 or 3 years. If you do not, the other person applying for the job will. Get as much community service working with people as you can. I had 2 years in college tutoring children in reading at elementary schools that I got credit for. Stuff like that.
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Hmm, you never quite struck me as the psychologist type, if I would have to say in the area of counseling, perhaps more the coach type.
Sensus Traditionis (http://www.sensustraditionis.org/psychology.html) has some text books and conferences.
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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26896&min=30&num=5
. . . Sad to see that in this modern day and age the influence of psychiatry bears some force as a factor whenever someone talks in terms of theological / philosophical theory. Psychiatry is at its core, militant atheist, and the fact you mention it shows how much society forces its doctrines on us. . .
:popcorn:
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26896&min=30&num=5
. . . Sad to see that in this modern day and age the influence of psychiatry bears some force as a factor whenever someone talks in terms of theological / philosophical theory. Psychiatry is at its core, militant atheist, and the fact you mention it shows how much society forces its doctrines on us. . .
:popcorn:
So what?
:cool:
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
Best post ever.
If one likes to analyze behavior with the intention of finding solutions to a behavioral problem, i think the method by which one does so would only be a sign of wisdom. I am not interested in promoting unwise psych theories which are not proven and manufacture problems rather than solve them. Someone needs to help all the people society has broken, the job being almost like a wise friend with lots of knowledge and clarity who gets paid for giving advice, but Catholics should do this anyway for free in day to day life.
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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26896&min=30&num=5
. . . Sad to see that in this modern day and age the influence of psychiatry bears some force as a factor whenever someone talks in terms of theological / philosophical theory. Psychiatry is at its core, militant atheist, and the fact you mention it shows how much society forces its doctrines on us. . .
:popcorn:
So what?
:cool:
Sorry, that was an impulse "so what". That is a good thread though. Very interesting.
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Notice how infinite faith was troubled, and he agreed with my posts using the applause smiley.
I think the troubled have a friend in me. Wonder where he is nowadays.
Blast from the past! :cool:
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:dancing-banana:!!!!!!
Dr. Soulguard, didn't you recently say the entire field is based on fraud and deception? What about becoming a monk?
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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26896&min=30&num=5
. . . Sad to see that in this modern day and age the influence of psychiatry bears some force as a factor whenever someone talks in terms of theological / philosophical theory. Psychiatry is at its core, militant atheist, and the fact you mention it shows how much society forces its doctrines on us. . .
:popcorn:
So what?
:cool:
1. I don't know why you would want to go into a field of which you have such views.
2. Haven't you previously had issues disagreeing with professors & curriculum? Even if not, think about how it's going to be in that regard.
3. Maybe it's different there, but in US psyche degrees are a dime/dozen and pretty worthless. Yes, some people make $$$ with them--but some people make $$$ singing & acting too.
I have very little respect for social studies degrees--I refuse to call them "sciences," even though I have a political "science" degree myself. I recognize that there are people who have mental/psychological problems. I just think priests and/or general/family practitioner MDs usually work better than psychologists, and psychiatrists are necessary for severe issues.
I just don't think it's a good move for you. Why don't you look at a traditional seminary? SSPX or sedevacantist in the US where you probably wouldn't have to learn Spanish?
Or what were you previously studying? Complete that program, quit trying to save the world, settle down, marry & have a family.
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1. I don't know why you would want to go into a field of which you have such views.
I think I would be good at it because of my life's experience.
People usually tell me all their problems anyway, I get this on a regular basis, total strangers come up to me and tell me things i did not ask to know because they think they can trust me. I might as well get paid for it.
2. Haven't you previously had issues disagreeing with professors & curriculum? Even if not, think about how it's going to be in that regard.
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The only time I have ever had an issue with a teacher was with a psychology teacher who used to down grade my essays because she thought I was plagurizing them from a book. She did not believe a 22 year old could write like that.
3. Maybe it's different there, but in US psyche degrees are a dime/dozen and pretty worthless. Yes, some people make $$$ with them--but some people make $$$ singing & acting too.
I have very little respect for social studies degrees--I refuse to call them "sciences," even though I have a political "science" degree myself. I recognize that there are people who have mental/psychological problems. I just think priests and/or general/family practitioner MDs usually work better than psychologists, and psychiatrists are necessary for severe issues.
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I disagree with psychiatrists being of utility but however...
I just don't think it's a good move for you. Why don't you look at a traditional seminary? SSPX or sedevacantist in the US where you probably wouldn't have to learn Spanish?
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As people know on this forum, I wanted to live a religious life, but it is denied to me by others on account of my "disability". This is one of two heavy crosses I carry and I see it as an injustice, most religious are hypocrites in my opinion for their stance on this, after all it was said "it is not the healthy who need the physician but the sick" and this should be applied to the spiritual realm. Behavioral problems and trouble with the law affect the spirit, and might be a sign of a corrupted spirit, yet such as these are denied the physician of life and told that their only vocation is to marry. Church elitism I call it. Yet I don't complain about it too often anymore since I got little sympathy from Cathinfo members before.
Or what were you previously studying? Complete that program, quit trying to save the world, settle down, marry & have a family.
I dont want to have a family. You cant imagine how frustrating it is to want to work for the betterment of the church as a religious and be denied it. As one saint said "As soon as I found out there was a God, it was impossible for me to live for anything but him".
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:dancing-banana:!!!!!!
Dr. Soulguard, didn't you recently say the entire field is based on fraud and deception? What about becoming a monk?
I am thinking of back up options Frances.
Also it is not all deception, much of it is the scientific method applied to behavior. The scientific method was invented by a Catholic priest, the two are not contradictory, but biological psychology or psychiatry is however a complete fraud. People may disagree, but I say go to that website I usually mention to learn about it before they think of getting involved with the "mental health" services for any reason. Those people are predators in sheep's clothing and they help no one. The amount of people who have been destroyed by psychiatry that I have met is enormous, and I have heard anti-psychiatrist anti-medication opinions from patients many times, and the logic they used was impeccable.
Anyways, I appreciate that Cathinfo members are trying to test my willingness to study this, but with the way my life has gone so far, I think this is something I might end up doing, since it will be in my life regardless of what I do. I might as well take control of such an annoying cross and make it my own and become master of it. It is hard to explain but perhaps you know what I mean.
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It was the field of psychology that led society down the slippery slope of gαy sodomite enabling. Freud said we were all bisɛҳuąƖ then in the early 1970s the fag enabling psychology folks lied and said it was not a mental illness. Served Satan well.
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
So accurate. I wish this message was explained as clearly as you did. People need to wake up.
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
So accurate. I wish this message was explained as clearly as you did. People need to wake up.
Why did this get down-thumbed? The post that is complimented got 5 up-thumbs and not a single down-thumb.
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It seems to me that they are just interested in selling pills to as many people as possible. Keep them away from your children.
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Soulguard, I'm messing with your head. Yes, you should check out your options, and pray to be in the right job. You can live as a religious in almost any job, but if service jobs appeal to you, could you teach children? Or if you have writing talent, English? If you already know marriage isn't for you, then you need not focus much on salary. Try different jobs. You might be surprised to find a field of which you were not even aware.
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Fr. Chad Ripperger, FSSP:
http://uvcr.catholicam.org/mp3s/FatherR_DangersofModernPsychology.mp3
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Fr. Chad Ripperger, FSSP:
http://uvcr.catholicam.org/mp3s/FatherR_DangersofModernPsychology.mp3
Just finished listening to it, very interesting.
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
NEUROTIC JєωS: PRIESTS FOR A nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr (written 2008):
link (http://www.realJєωnews.com/?p=166)
JєωS ARE THE MOST NEUROTIC people walking the face of the earth.
That’s why the psychiatric profession is flooded with Jєωs — they’re hoping to get their own heads screwed on right! These 5 Jєωιѕн “psycho-shrinks” lead the pack of neurotic Jєωs:
1) Steven Sharfstein: President, American Psychiatric Association
Here
2) Alan Kazdin: President, American Psychological Association Here
3) K. Lynne Moritz: President, American Psychoanalytic Association Here
4) Burton Reifler: Director, American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology Here
5) Leo Rangell: Honorary President, International Psychoanalytic Association Here
And these 5 Jєωιѕн “psychiatric” leaders and their Jєωιѕн pack of neurotic shrinks pretend to be the “priests” of a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.
FREUD BRINGS HIS Jєωιѕн “PLAGUE” TO AMERICA
THE Jєω SIGMUND FREUD visited America in 1909 to give lectures at Clark University in Worcester MA.
While on the boat to America Freud said to his colleague Karl Jung: “We are bringing the plague to America.”
Freud soon established an “elite” - an “apostolic succession.” This “succession” began with the Jєω, Alfred Adler (1870-1937) who in 1932 established a psychoanalysis professorship at the Long Island College of Medicine in America.
Adler, as a transmitter of Freud’s teachings, promulgated “bisɛҳuąƖity” as a means of healing childhood conflicts. And thus the gαy Rights Movement was born from the perverted mouth of the Freudian Jєω Adler.
The Jєω, Erik Erikson (1904-1994) continued the “apostolic succession” in America reaching the pinnacle of his career by being one of the first Jєωs to take a professorship at Yale University in 1936.
The Freudian mantle passed to such Jєωs as Erich Fromm (1900-1980); Otto Kernberg (b 1928) of Cornell Univeristy (b 1928); Anna Freud (1895-1982), Freud’s daughter); and New York Jєωιѕн glamour boy, Roy Schafer, (b 1922) author of A New Language for Psychoanalysis.
And what is the “new language” that these high priests of Freudian psychology promote? A) Confession; B) Absolution C) “Holy” Communion.
A NEW Jєωιѕн “EUCHARIST”
HOLY COMMUNION HAS BEEN REPLACED BY Anti-Depressants. Jєωs are the “celebrants” of this new “eucharist:”
Prozac®: Celebrant, Jєω Sidney Taurel, President of Ely Lilly Here.
Effexor®: Celebrant, Jєω Robert Essner, Chairman of Wyeth Pharmaceuticals Here.
Zoloft®: Celebrant, Jєω Jeffrey Kindler, President of Pfizer Inc Here
IN 1956, A CHRISTIAN PYSCHIATRIST writing in The American Journal of Psychiatry complained about the Jєωιѕн-intensive psychiatric field:
— “Is it possible that we are developing the equivalent of a secular church?
~ A secular church supported by government monies, staffed by a genital-obsessed apostolate, dispensing a broth of atheism, hedonism, and perversion!” —
(History of the Jєωs, Johnson)
For More See: “Freud’s Jєωιѕн Subversion Of Christian Culture” Click Here
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Soulguard: You want to help people, save them? Christ/God did that. YOU are not the savior of the world. IF you take on such a job, and do not mention the supernatural savings of Grace, you lie to yourself and God!
You can not help others, with your attitudes that YOU can do it.
A Priest must rely on God in the confessional and as a confessor, to listen to the soul.
A job that listens to peoples problems, is a bar tender. And he too, keeps his customers, keeps the money flowing.
A book known as "The Black Awakening" shows just how young people are programed and that can be by anyone, like yourself. Then these young people are triggered to murder then ѕυιcιdє. I am sure you have heard it in the news.
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Psychology (and psychiatry) is largely a Jєωιѕн deception. Both were pioneered by perfidious Jєωs, and to this day, both fields are navigated mostly by Jєωry. It is anti-Christ in nature as both of these pseudo-sciences invent "disorders" and "illnesses", while they push Big Pharma's poisons on the goyim to "remedy" these invented conditions. Both of these fields demonize Catholic, traditional, family-oriented and patriarchal values as "abnormal" and "limited thinking" in the human psyche, while they advocate distortions and perversions in the human condition, and anything that denies Christ as Truth, as "normal" and "healthy". Most recently, look at how they advocate pervert fαɢɢօtry as "normal" for the masses to accept. The shrink was engineered to replace the Catholic priest in order to steer the people away from Christ and His Church.
Yes you are exactly right. I took many psychology classes in college essentially to disprove it. Psychology is Jєωιѕн and satanic at its core. It is a tool of Satan to destroy all Catholic values and truths. No Catholic should ever be involved in anything to do with psychology or psychiatry.
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No Catholic should ever be involved in anything to do with psychology or psychiatry.
What if a Catholic is truly crazy and his craziness is not caused by demons. Is he not allowed to get help because psychiatrists are all evil?
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Overall, from a career standpoint it is an awful major unless you are willing to get a Phd and have good enough grades to compete in the academic field. That means an ivy league school and high tuition.
The other option would be psychiatry which means a medical degree which translates into getting into medical school and becoming a medical doctor. Then you can prescribe drugs and make a fortune.
I don't have a lot of respect for the field. psychology is a soft science. If I had the choice between psychology and sociology, I would prefer the later.
Anyway, a psychology degree might get you a job as a youth counselor in a group home for $12 an hour if you are lucky.
I would not go into psychiatry, although I know clinical psychology is in that field. One needs to be a doctor ( 8 years study) then specialize in psychiatry ( 12 years ) before one is a psychiatrist. You need to have an MD to be a consultant. I dont have the grades to study medicine, and in this country you need to have those grades in a test at age 17 or 18. I am not willing to go back to do that test. Instead a degree in psychology is open to me, and I know that there are many jobs available in that field. One could be a councilor or rehab worker or some such job. Clinical psychologists are very highly paid. Nothing equals the salary of a consultant psychiatrist, in my country they get 300,000 Euro a year, but I don't have ambitions to be rich, nor to work in such an unproductive job. Prescribing medication for behavior problems is not my thing. I am sure that many people with problems would want to have psychotherapy and counseling without the prospect of being medicated, and in that situation, perhaps there is an opportunity to speak about the faith as well. Some of the most religious people have been before psychiatrists before and carry diagnoses. I think they would avail of the services of a counseller, or if not, there are jobs in schools and hospitals where I could help those whom society has forgotten about, and pray for them at the same time. I think this is for me ( if other plans are not possible).
My husband holds a Masters Degree in Counseling Psychology. It was a degree he got many years ago, in the early 90s. At that time, managed care had not taken over the field, and his Masters Degree was sufficient to get a job. At the time, very few counselors had a license unless they were interested in seeing their own patients privately. Today, it is almost impossible to get a decent paying job in counseling psychology without either a license (LPC, MFT) or a PhD or PsyD. In fact, most of psychology is going by way of social work. There are many positions available for MSW's than Master's level therapists. Of course, psychologists are always in need, but the pay is not always what you might think. My husbands mentor and supervisor has a PsyD in Clinical Psychology. He makes about 70K a year. That, of course, is a good income, but obviously nothing in comparison to what a Psychiatrist would make. FWIW, an MSN, a Master's level nurse, makes about that as well, as doesn't have to go to school as long. Pay rate for LPC's is about 60K.
I mention this because my husband has been in forensics for about 15 years. It is very stressful for him, but he finds that he has done some good for many people. I am very humbled by how many people stop us in town and thank him for helping them get on the right medications or get back with their wives, or get off drugs, or stop whatever behavior that was causing so much trouble for them. He really does care for them and doesn't want to see them locked up forever. However, when an inmate commits ѕυιcιdє, he takes it very hard, almost personally. The constant conflict with the state regarding mental health care and what he knows works and doesn't work has caused him to want to leave forensics for other areas. Unfortunately, even with over 20 years experience, without a license, he has pretty much reached his peak.
I am certainly not trying to tell you what to do, just painting the picture for you from our own experience. The field of Psychology has changed a lot in the last 20 years.
Obviously, this is in the US. I do not know what the field is like in other countries. It is worth checking out.
If you do wish to pursue this, you will absolutely need licensure. Get that as soon as you can. Otherwise a PhD or PsyD is your best option.
If you are wishing to work in a hospital or public sector, you should consider social work. Insurance companies now pay more for MSW than LPC's.
Good luck.