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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
« on: March 01, 2023, 03:41:15 PM »
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  • Father Ripperger has some really good material on the Catholic Faith.  (Please no negative posts.)


    https://tinyurl.com/4nhpjcz4



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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #1 on: March 01, 2023, 04:12:46 PM »
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  • Father Ripperger has some really good material on the Catholic Faith.  (Please no negative posts.)


    https://tinyurl.com/4nhpjcz4
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    Fr. Ripperger is an invalidly ordained Novus Ordo priest who promotes superstition and whose sermons sound like a chapter in a Harry Potter novel.


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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #2 on: March 01, 2023, 04:47:49 PM »
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  • I disagree with Yeti. (Sorry, guy! ⛄️) Nothing personal intended.  I’d prefer he were conditionally re-ordained, but don’t believe a lay person can judge in the internal forum in such matters.  His sermons, conferences, and books are largely quite good.  He is obviously well-educated in the Faith.  The one matter on which I agree in part is that some of his material do border on superstition, or can lead one to think in such a way.  Let’s say that someone who is already superstitious, overly timid, paranoid, or too scrupulous could get themselves in spiritual confusion if they don’t have a good spiritual director to guide them.  
    On the basics of spiritual warfare, Fr. Ripperger is an excellent resource, IMO.

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2023, 04:49:57 PM »
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  • Fr. Ripperger is an invalidly ordained Novus Ordo priest who promotes superstition and whose sermons sound like a chapter in a Harry Potter novel.

    I'd have to agree on all counts.  I used to like him in general, considered him a decent Thomist, except his attitude toward demonology has always rubbed me the wrong way.  I could never quite figure out why ... until I had to think deeply about it on that one thread some time ago, almost entirely as the result of some posts you made there.

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2023, 04:52:35 PM »
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  • I disagree with Yeti. (Sorry, guy! ⛄️) Nothing personal intended.  I’d prefer he were conditionally re-ordained, but don’t believe a lay person can judge in the internal forum in such matters.  His sermons, conferences, and books are largely quite good.  He is obviously well-educated in the Faith.  The one matter on which I agree in part is that some of his material do border on superstition, or can lead one to think in such a way.  Let’s say that someone who is already superstitious, overly timid, paranoid, or too scrupulous could get themselves in spiritual confusion if they don’t have a good spiritual director to guide them. 
    On the basics of spiritual warfare, Fr. Ripperger is an excellent resource, IMO.

    Well, the validity of one's ordination is not a matter of the "internal forum".  There is a certain amount of disagreement that could be had, but it has nothing to do with judging the internal forum.  SOME of his sermons and conferences are good.  But he's famous and most well known for his demonology, and it's seriously problematic ... and very dangerous.  His demonology of "lay deliverance" is extremely Protestant, and the notion that lay people can command demons needs to be rejected completely.


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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #5 on: March 01, 2023, 05:19:56 PM »
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  • I do not think Fr. Ripperger teaches that lay people may directly command demons.  I agree, that is thoroughly Protestant and specifically Pentecostal.  It’s dangerous.  I had a roommate who went to a Pentecostal church and she died just before her 35th birthday because her “deliverance” group that included her fiancé had her believing that the “demon of diabetes” had been cast out.  All she had to do was have the faith to “claim” her healing.  She did this by throwing out her insulin and supplies.  She ruptured an aneurysm in her brain and died in her sleep.  
    Lay people shouldn’t even dabble in exorcism or “deliverance” except under the direct guidance of a qualified priest.

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #6 on: March 01, 2023, 05:35:37 PM »
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    Fr. Ripperger is an invalidly ordained Novus Ordo priest who promotes superstition and whose sermons sound like a chapter in a Harry Potter novel.
    Someone on Twitter referred to him once as a "Novus Ordo Witch doctor" :laugh2:

    In charity, he does some good. He is a decent Thomist, as Lad said, and he has brought attention to the danger of the demonic. But, the way he handles it is dangerous in itself and his prayers for laymen have brought nothing but evil in my own experience, and in that of others I've spoken to on Twitter.

    His holy orders are also in doubt, since he was "ordained" by a NO "bishop". I'd have more confidence in the commands of the pseudo-Christian, Orthodox-consecrated bishop from Ghost Adventures than Ripperger.
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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #7 on: March 01, 2023, 06:29:37 PM »
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  • I do not think Fr. Ripperger teaches that lay people may directly command demons.  
    It was covered in this thread:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/warning-avoid-ripperger's-prayers-adjuring-demons/
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #8 on: March 01, 2023, 07:40:30 PM »
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  • I do not think Fr. Ripperger teaches that lay people may directly command demons.  I agree, that is thoroughly Protestant and specifically Pentecostal.  It’s dangerous.  I had a roommate who went to a Pentecostal church and she died just before her 35th birthday because her “deliverance” group that included her fiancé had her believing that the “demon of diabetes” had been cast out.  All she had to do was have the faith to “claim” her healing.  She did this by throwing out her insulin and supplies.  She ruptured an aneurysm in her brain and died in her sleep. 
    Lay people shouldn’t even dabble in exorcism or “deliverance” except under the direct guidance of a qualified priest.


    That's nuts!! I can't stand that kind of thinking (or lack of).

    The FIRST thing I thought of when I read that was the old Steven Segal parody. "There's always that one guy!"

    https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=w_l-4rAUAzQ

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #9 on: March 01, 2023, 07:43:07 PM »
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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #10 on: March 01, 2023, 07:59:51 PM »
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  • The red flag for me are his statements about what the demons are revealing.  "The demons are telling us their time is almost up."  

    He is assuring everyone the demons know the "era of peace" is coming.

    Demons lie.

    Wouldn't demons love everyone to fall for the "era of peace" that appears to come with the arrival of the Antichrist?
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #11 on: March 01, 2023, 09:03:12 PM »
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  • Though I haven't seen Fr. Ripperger's prayer book, his book Dominion has a whole chapter about authority. Basically, he says that among laity, authority is within the family: father over wife and minor children, and I think he explains a qualified authority of the wife toward the husband in the sacramental reciprocity of marriage (not to get too far into detail there). A mother's authority over her minor children in effect is delegated to her in a limited sense by her husband. Grandparents have no authority over grandchildren unless delegated by their father, and adult children have no authority over their own parents. The 1962 Missal also includes several deliverance prayers for private use by laity. It would seem that within the family is when these would be allowable, yes?  

    Beyond the above, Fr. Ripperger says that no layperson should ever attempt to engage with demons afflicting any other person. Yet it's essential that one have self-authority with regard to demons, otherwise an exorcist would be blocked by the affected person's non-cooperation.

    The group that calls itself "Catholic" but is dangerously Prot-friendly is Neil Lozano's "Unbound" or "Heart of the Father" -- definitely stay away from them. They don't even acknowledge Our Lady nor any of the Saints.
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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #12 on: March 01, 2023, 09:45:00 PM »
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  • Though I haven't seen Fr. Ripperger's prayer book, his book Dominion has a whole chapter about authority. Basically, he says that among laity, authority is within the family: father over wife and minor children, and I think he explains a qualified authority of the wife toward the husband in the sacramental reciprocity of marriage (not to get too far into detail there). A mother's authority over her minor children in effect is delegated to her in a limited sense by her husband. Grandparents have no authority over grandchildren unless delegated by their father, and adult children have no authority over their own parents. The 1962 Missal also includes several deliverance prayers for private use by laity. It would seem that within the family is when these would be allowable, yes? 

    Beyond the above, Fr. Ripperger says that no layperson should ever attempt to engage with demons afflicting any other person. Yet it's essential that one have self-authority with regard to demons, otherwise an exorcist would be blocked by the affected person's non-cooperation.

    The group that calls itself "Catholic" but is dangerously Prot-friendly is Neil Lozano's "Unbound" or "Heart of the Father" -- definitely stay away from them. They don't even acknowledge Our Lady nor any of the Saints.

    The strange thing about his stance on authority and the legalism of demons in that respect is that he published the deliverance prayers book before receiving the imprimatur.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 11:13:21 PM »
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  • I think I'll just stick to the St Michael prayer, thank you.  I say it sometimes several times a day.

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    Re: What did Fr. Ripperger actually say?
    « Reply #14 on: March 02, 2023, 04:35:20 AM »
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  • What cut it for me was his booklet The Merit of the Mass in the beginning pages he says:

    "In discussing the value of the Mass, one must make a distinction between intrinsic and the extrinsic value. The intrinsic value of any valid Mass is infinite since It is Christ, Who is infinite, Who is offered. Hence, in this respect every Mass has an infinite value. The new rite of Mass is just as efficacious as the old rite of Mass in this respect since they are both the same sacrifice of Christ..."

    Why is he a trad priest when the bolded is his fundamental presupposition for the article? 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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