What does the Church teach?

I thought that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity was a curse caused by demons which God allows to pervert the souls of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs as a punishment for sin, both personal and of society. Is that true?

     
Just a few comments on your response:

. I am not gαy.

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are not gαy either. We need to call these things by correct terminology and not use the language of the sodomists and their supporters. You are playing right into their hands by using their contrived verbiage.

What causes ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?  Well, it seems to me that it's a mental disorder.  Honestly, if you were to only look at the male and female as sɛҳuąƖ beings does ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity make sense?  No.  It's not my personal point of view.  It's based on fact... based on the "plumbing" so to speak.

You are right up to a point. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity was indeed considered a psychiatric illness until it was removed from the medical textbooks.

On the other hand we have to careful about confusing sin with sickness, though of course one can and does lead to the other. But sickness is the result as opposed to the cause.

We're told "it's the way I was born".  OK.  People are born with all kinds of physical and psychological abnormalities.  Does that mean such things should not be treated?

No, not OK! Nobody is ever born a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. The only sin that any and every child is born with is original sin and that can be removed by Baptism. There are some people who have the sad misfortune to be born hermaphrodite, but this is not ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

I've never heard a defense of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity that stood on firm ground and did anything to defy logic quite frankly

Good comment, but I think you mean:
did anything to but defy logic quite frankly

Matto, I can refer you to the Courage site here. You might find it helpful:  http://couragerc.org/

I sin and I am not gαy.  I sin because I am man.  I seek forgiveness for my sins and strength to overcome temptation because I am Christian.  What causes ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?  Well, it seems to me that it's a mental disorder.  Honestly, if you were to only look at the male and female as sɛҳuąƖ beings does ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity make sense?  No.  It's not my personal point of view.  It's based on fact... based on the "plumbing" so to speak.  We're told it's a choice.  Does choice make something normal?  I hope not.  Lots of bad choices being made in this world.  We're told "it's the way I was born".  OK.  People are born with all kinds of physical and psychological abnormalities.  Does that mean such things should not be treated?  I've never heard a defense of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity that stood on firm ground and did anything to defy logic quite frankly.

St. Pius V "treated" them with a death sentence.

Sodomy is one of the Four Sins that Cry to Heaven for Vengeance. The inclination to sodomy is no more an "illness" than are inclinations to murder, oppression of the poor, or defrauding laborers of their wages.  

And I wish to echo Nadir's wise counsel - Sodomites are the least "gαy" people on earth. We have another word for them - one that refers to a bundle of sticks fit only as kindling for the fire. That's a much better, much more appropriate word for them (the best, in fact, outside of the traditional term "sodomite").

And I don't think we ought to trouble ourselves overmuch about the "causes" of the inclination to sodomy, for to do so is tantamount to a tacit acceptance of the claim of the Sodomite Lobby that their inclination is some kind of defining, immutable, ontological "state." What is the "cause" of self-abuse, or pederasty, or bestiality, or necrophilia or any other abominable perversion of the generative act? Man's fallen nature (as Dolores points out) and demonic influence (as intimated in Matto's OP).

Obama’s ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Agenda & The Jєωs Behind It

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PRAISING ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ AND LESBIAN ACTIVISTS, Obama spoke before the world’s largest gαy rights political group, the Human Rights Campaign, on October 10, 2009.

Promising to “change America’s laws” and the “hearts and minds” of all Americans at the HRC’s Annual Dinner in Washington DC, Obama delivered the keynote address with a speech that drew an enthusiastic response.

The Human Rights Campaign has emerged as a powerful lobby, curried up to by Jєωs on Capitol Hill such as Diane Feinstein and Joseph Lieberman, funded by major corporations, and of course, given huge support by American Jєωry.

In his speech, Obama gave his whole hearted support to the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ quest to destroy the American family, stating, “I’m here with you in your fight!” Obama said that those who disagreed with his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ agenda were simply wrong. “There’s still laws to change and there’s still hearts to open,” Obama told the group of deviant sex activists.

Declaring what NO former American President would ever say even in his wildest dreams, Obama, in an effort to DESTROY the traditional white Christian American family, promised that his presidency will help ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, lesbians and transgenders. And by Obama redefining the meaning of the family, he furthers the disintegration of American society:

“There are still fellow citizens who hold fast to outworn arguments and old attitudes — who fail to see your families like their families — and that’s painful and it’s heartbreaking.

I expect to see a time in which our nation recognizes relationships between two men or two women as just as admirable as relationships between a man and a woman. (Applause!)

I expect to see our nation cherishing these relationships as we build a more perfect union—a union in which gαy Americans are an important part. (Applause!) I am committed to these goals. And my administration will continue fighting to achieve them.

I’ve required all agencies in the federal government to extend as many benefits as possible to LGBT (lesbian, gαy, bisɛҳuąƖ, and transgender ) families. And I’ve called on Congress to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and to pass the Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations Act.“ View Entire Speech Here & Here.

It should come as no surprise to those who follow American Jєωry’s agenda, that the key sponsors of Obama’s desired Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations Act are Jєωs who also are hell bent on destroying the white Christian American family: Democrats Gary Ackerman, Howard Berman, John Adler, and Shelly Berkley. Zionist Jєω Rahm Emanuel, now White House Chief of Staff, co-sponsored the Act when it was first introduced. The ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby just LOVES Emanuel, who received a 100% vote rating from the pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Human Rights Campaign.

BIRDS OF A FEATHER

OBAMA’S SPEECH MAKES IT CLEAR that for the FIRST TIME in the history of America, a President affirms the radical ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ agenda. In doing so, Obama claims he is “upholding the ideals on which this nation was founded.” Nonsense. This is just another piece of Obama’s habitual Orwellian doublespeak. America’s founding fathers upheld the essential role of the TRADITIONAL FAMILY as the “foundation of national morality.”

But what does Obama care about “morality” or the “traditional family?” He’s a proven liar and an alleged ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ himself. For on June 18, 2008, before a large audience of political notables at the National Press Club in Washington DC, a man named Larry Sinclair revealed that a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ liaison took place between himself and Obama:

“On November 6, 1999, I was introduced to Senator Obama by my limo driver at a bar in Chicago called the Alibris. Senator Obama and I then departed the bar in my limousine and proceeded to an unknown location where I performed fellatio on Senator Obama in the limousine during the time Senator Obama was smoking crack cocaine.

The following day, Senator Obama appeared at my hotel room where we again ingested cocaine and I again performed fellatio on Senator Obama. Significantly, both the driver’s telephone call to Senator Obama and his call to the drug dealer should appear on the driver’s and Senator Obama’s cellphone billing statements.” View Evidence & National Press Club Testimony Here (Sinclair’s Evidence), Here (Testimony Text), Here & Here.

US JєωRY SUPPORTS
OBAMA’S ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ AGENDA

THE SUBVERSION OF WHITE CHRISTIAN CULTURE by organized Jєωry and the Jєω-controlled entertainment industry, is part of a two-pronged attack on social homogeneity in American life.

By promoting deviant sɛҳuąƖ lifestyles and lobbying for open immigration, Jєωs insure for themselves a safe haven to further their own ethnic solidarity while dissolving the ethnic identification of White Christian Americans.

The traditional foundations of European society - and by way of extension in America - has rested on three pillars: patriotism, a Christian basis for morality, and social homogeneity. But Jєωs are very uncomfortable with this formula for they refuse to relinquish an exalted view of themselves as a “separate people” with their own set of interests within the Gentile nations which host them.

Thus American Jєωry has attacked the very race that are the purveyors of this formula, white Europeans, who have carried Christian culture for centuries in Europe and in the three successive centuries since America’s founding.

Leading the charge against the white American race and its traditional Christian culture are the Anti Defamation League (ADL) with their intensive gαy Pride Early Childhood Education Programs in public schools and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) with their LGBT Project aimed at defending odious gαy students and litigating against virtuous Christian students and Bible distribution in public schools. Both the ADL and the ACLU are headed and funded by Jєωs.

These two groups have targeted white Gentile children in America’s public schools by providing teaching aids, currucilae, and books such as the Early Childhood Activity Kit for Pre-K to 6th grade, which promotes ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, lesbianism, and transgenderism.

Jєωιѕн children are exempt from this brainwashing as a high percentage are enrolled in private schools and taught at home and ѕуηαgσgυє that the propagation of the Jєωιѕн race through traditional marriage is crucial for Jєωιѕн survival. But for the white Gentiles, so the Jєωs propose, “let deviant sex destroy their race!”

The legitimization of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ unions — as the Jєωel in the crown of a host of Jєωry’s initiatives aimed at destroying the white race — is moving 180 degrees opposite the family stability and growth whites need to exist as a viable force in America. Jєωry’s promotion of personal license and deviant sɛҳuąƖ mores will prove deadly to an already endangered race, White Americans of European descent, in an America they can hardly still call their own…

 

Quote from: BMURMAN

. I am not gαy.

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are not gαy either. We need to call these things by correct terminology and not use the language of the sodomists and their supporters. You are playing right into their hands by using their contrived verbiage.

That's right. Homos & social engineers hijacked the word "gαy" to identify their perverted lifestyle with a positive connotation, as to divert thought away from the unnatural and perverted impurities of the queer lifestyle, while making themselves look "normal".  Here is the scenario: "Hey, look, he's 'gαy', so he's a 'good' person because 'gαys' are so bubbly, cheerful, nice & sweet. 'gαys' are so refined & sophisticated."

It's a psyop tactic bestowed upon the masses which contributes to the unfolding apostasy of the world, and further social engineering of more perverts. Hence subverting thought --> Accept abominations/perversions as "normal" --> Be "open minded" & attack all who oppose this abnormality as "hateful", "ignorant" & "rudimentary" --> Kids with no moral compass experiment with homo thoughts and deeds because it's being "open minded" and "cool" --> Thus a new homo is social engineered in defiance to what has been imprinted on his or her heart & soul by the Lord.

Building off Ascent's very good points, I'd also like to take a moment to address the ubiquitous abuse of language that sods are also profiting from - the use of the word "sex" (the word most commonly used to refer to the generative act) to refer to unnatural vice of the sodomites.

Sodomites do not "have sex." They commit sodomy, which is as different the generative act as a black mass is from the Holy Sacrifice. That this distinction is overhwlmingly ignored - even in Catholic circles - is why "mainstream" "conservative" condemnation of "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity" has become so egregiously impotent and mealy-mouthed. Because "sex outside of marriage" is wrong, so are "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts," which are just another form of "sex outside of marriage" (I actually encountered that quote verbatim on CAF).

Well, no it's not. Fornication, as gravely sinful as it is, is still not the diabolical affront to Natural Law that Sodomy is (which is so deplorable even the demons flee in horror from it). As per St. Thomas: "If all the sins of the flesh are worthy of condemnation because by them man allows himself to be dominated by that which he has of the animal nature, much more deserving of condemnation are the sins against nature by which man degrades his own animal nature…."

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is NOT "love" or "romance", rather it's an addiction to a perversion, and it's a distorted ego built upon a severely wounded and scarred emotional state. It usually metastasizes from a distortion instilled in a person during his youth, resulting from an overbearing mother and absent or uncaring father; and vice versa for a lesbian. It also results from child sɛҳuąƖ abuse. Alas, the final ingredient to this distortion of the mental and emotional domain is the social engineering from Jєω-controlled mediums such as Hollywood, media, cultural hubs, psychiatry and "education". The masses are brainwashed into accepting it as "normal". It's another sign of the decaying times.

You are correct; this is exactly what used to be taught at the university. Child sɛҳuąƖ abuse is statistically correlated to "acting out" sɛҳuąƖly, both ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and heterosɛҳuąƖ promiscuity. Furthermore, child sɛҳuąƖ abuse is statistically correlated with sɛҳuąƖ identity disorder. This information has been stripped from the textbooks. Also, violence among ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "partners" is off the charts, with lesbian abuse actually occurring at a higher rate than the notoriously high rate of violence among ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "partners."

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is NOT "love" or "romance", rather it's an addiction to a perversion, and it's a distorted ego built upon a severely wounded and scarred emotional state. It usually metastasizes from a distortion instilled in a person during his youth, resulting from an overbearing mother and absent or uncaring father; and vice versa for a lesbian. It also results from child sɛҳuąƖ abuse. Alas, the final ingredient to this distortion of the mental and emotional domain is the social engineering from Jєω-controlled mediums such as Hollywood, media, cultural hubs, psychiatry and "education". The masses are brainwashed into accepting it as "normal". It's another sign of the decaying times.

Well said! :applause:

It seems that in most cases, sodomites have in common a broken or non existent relation with their fathers, a deep mental o sɛҳuąƖ abuse, and nowadays, the perverse Jєωιѕн media manipulation which is basically FORCING UPON US AND OUR VULNERABLE CHILDREN their sɛҳuąƖ diabolical distortions.