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Offline Beatifico

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« on: September 13, 2013, 08:35:52 PM »
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  • If a person needs to go to college and wants to find a fairly good Catholic college can any of you recommend one?  Christendom in Virginia? University of Mary in Bismarck? Aquinas in Michigan?  Just asking...


    Offline Mithrandylan

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    « Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 08:55:13 PM »
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  • I don't really think there's such a thing.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 09:51:24 PM »
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  • I would not go to a "Catholic" college.  At a secular school, one knows he is dealing with pagans and takes proper precautions to protect his soul.  He is there for professional/career reasons only, not for spiritual formation.  Better to find a college that offers the desired program of study close by to a good traditional Catholic church.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 10:08:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    I would not go to a "Catholic" college.  At a secular school, one knows he is dealing with pagans and takes proper precautions to protect his soul.  He is there for professional/career reasons only, not for spiritual formation.  Better to find a college that offers the desired program of study close by to a good traditional Catholic church.


    I agree with this.  I attend a liberal Catholic university that is very typically secular and therefore mostly predictable in its teaching methods and content.  The so-called theology courses, however, were incredibly vile.  The philosophy course was much more edifying than the radical "theology" classes.  Theology courses would be far more confusing and disorienting, however, if the professors were teaching the slimy and subtle deceits of the "conservative" Conciliar theorists.  By contrast, the undiluted and unvarnished Modernism to which I have been exposed has been incredibly easy to dismiss without much thought.  Yes, the world is certainly wicked and the Conciliar errors are saliently foul, but they would have to have a certain intellectual appeal, after all, insofar as almost all the Catholic bishops and theologians of the world went along with them.  I would not recommend immersing oneself in that environment for four years; it seems like it would be more of an occasion of the sin of infidelity/heresy than just attending a saecular school would be.

    I think I would have a much harder time if I were to have attended a smaller "conservative NO" school like Ave Maria or Christendom.  On the one hand, there might be a few more Traditional Catholics (as opposed to the zero at the school I attend) with whom I could bond, but I think trying to succeed in school for professional/career purposes while also being persecuted and ostracised by Wojtylian/Ratzingerian nouvelle théologie zealots would be incredibly burdensome and stressful.  

    On the other hand, I have never attended a public school before, but I always have the strange feeling of encountering a palpable evil when I am on the campus of one.  I don't think there is any one-size-fits-all solution to the problem you described.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 14, 2013, 03:02:51 PM »
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  • Bump.  In case the OP wanted to read this thread, I retrieved it from its burial under a large amount of threads started by poche.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 14, 2013, 03:41:11 PM »
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  • "Best" is a relative term.  It's like voting for the "best" candidate for president.  None are really acceptable, but, perhaps, one is less objectionable than the other.

    According to reports, children attend the so-called "Catholic" colleges lose the faith in much greater numbers than children who attend secular or even non-Catholic religious colleges.  I don't think there is a single "Catholic" college I would send my children to.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
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  • I don't know of any truly orthodox Catholic university. Aren't they all Novus Ordo and Vatican II?
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    « Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 03:49:42 PM »
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  • You may be interested in this article about Georgetown.

    www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/CatholicEducationDaily/DetailsPage/tabid/102/ArticleID/2538/Shocking-Testimony-in-Georgetown-Canon-Law-Case.aspx

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    Shocking Testimony in [Jesuit] Georgetown Canon Law Case

    September 13, 2013 | By Matthew Archbold |


    “I have met students in their second years at Georgetown who didn’t even know that Georgetown was a Catholic school. They did not know that Jesuit meant Catholic.”

    That’s the testimony of a student in the canon law petition filed in the Archdiocese of Washington by author William Peter Blatty and Georgetown University alumni, students, parents and faculty, seeking a remedy to Georgetown’s weak Catholic identity.

    Fellow petitioner and Georgetown alumnus Manuel Miranda, who recently made a trip to Rome with the goal of increasing awareness of the case in the Vatican, supplied Aleteia News with stunning testimony from students, former students and even a professor [see www.aleteia.org/en/religion/news/the-people-vs-georgetown-3379003 ].

    The student cited above reportedly said, “Last year’s dorm tours for accepted students, who were deciding if they wanted to attend Georgetown, featured a dorm with pro-choice and Planned Parenthood paraphernalia plastered all over the door and walls. Condoms were taped to the door.”

    A Georgetown graduate recalled:

    “My Catholic lifestyle and convictions were sometimes attacked by student organizations and staff members, themselves underpinned by tacit and even explicit University endorsement. Far beyond nuanced scrutiny or respectful debate, my convictions, especially those regarding the dignity of human life, were instead the subject of sweeping condemnation, even at University-sponsored events. …I sometimes felt betrayed by a campus culture which discouraged faithfulness, even while banners everywhere touted the ideal of ‘faith in action.’”

    A Georgetown professor reportedly stated:

    “I have taught at Georgetown for many years. During this time, I have seen the influence of the Catholic Church decrease and secular humanism rise. I find this very disturbing. I have seen the number of times that prayer has been offered in official ceremonies decrease. I have seen pro-abortion groups become louder and louder…

    “I have seen the LGBTQ interest group become institutionalized and its members not just be accepted and loved (as they should be), but strengthened in their convictions and vocal in pushing their unhealthy agenda. A ‘Lavender Prom’ was the latest evidence of this, where they were recognized and applauded by the rest of the university. It seems whomever we take money from sets the agenda for Georgetown, no longer the Catholic Church. …This is a sad development, and I long for the Georgetown I came to love years ago.”

    The petition is currently under consideration by Cardinal Donald Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 08:31:43 PM »
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  • I appreciate all the info.  I'm looking into this for a niece who is on the fence with regard to tradition, and has been in "conservative" Catholic schools all her life.  I've been trying to talk to her about vat2 and the difference in the two religions!  She isn't informed enough yet to really make a good choice, so I'm praying she won't loose the faith in college.  She is now a senior.  She wants to go to college, but wants to avoid co-ed dorms, homo stuff, and all the other perversions.  But I know nothing about Catholic colleges.  What I was hoping was to find out if there is one that isn't truly vile.  Her school experience has been "good" to a certain extent, but she isn't wanting to be as "nerdy" as I am "yet" (traditional). So that's why I asked.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 09:24:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Beatifico
    I appreciate all the info.  I'm looking into this for a niece who is on the fence with regard to tradition, and has been in "conservative" Catholic schools all her life.  I've been trying to talk to her about vat2 and the difference in the two religions!  She isn't informed enough yet to really make a good choice, so I'm praying she won't loose the faith in college.  She is now a senior.  She wants to go to college, but wants to avoid co-ed dorms, homo stuff, and all the other perversions.  But I know nothing about Catholic colleges.  What I was hoping was to find out if there is one that isn't truly vile.  Her school experience has been "good" to a certain extent, but she isn't wanting to be as "nerdy" as I am "yet" (traditional). So that's why I asked.


    If she is currently NO and has faired well in conservative Catholic schools, I suggest she go to as solid (relatively speaking) of a Catholic college as you can find.  I was a "good boy" going to Catholic elementary school.  Then went to public high school and pretty much remained a "good boy."  Then I was exposed to unspeakable worldly vices in college.  I think I would have been a better person for about a 15 yr period of my life had a gone to as good of a Catholic college as I could have found.  Perhaps I would have found tradition even sooner too.

    If she has been in conservative Catholic schools to this point, then she has most likely been sheltered from a lot of what she'll see at a public university.  They are a cesspool of sex, alcohol, and drugs, not to mention the indoctrination by liberal professors.

    Now if she was already steeped in tradition, I would be concerned about what others have said about being swayed by conservative NOs.  Also, there is no way I think any Catholic child should go to a non-Catholic religious school.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 09:34:11 PM »
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  •  :scratchchin:
    If I dare to advise an unknown person, it sounds as if your niece is not yet mature enough to handle any kind of college on her own.  My suggestion would be to continue living at home and go to a community college and work at least part-time at a "job-job."  It will keep her spiritually protected while introducing her slightly, to people without moral anchors.  Yes, to reality.  In the meantime, she should devote herself to learning her Faith.  Who knows that she may be converted to tradition, have a vocation, or forgo college for marriage and family?  Just because the majority go straight to a four-year, residential university immediately after graduation from high school does not mean this is right for this particular young lady.  Does she even have an educational goal in mind?  If not, it is folly, a waste of money, time, and possibly a risk to her soul, no matter what the world and the Conciliarists say.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #11 on: September 14, 2013, 11:20:07 PM »
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  • She has attended two "conservative" NO schools, and as a result is pretty sheltered.  They have emphasized all the good Catholic teachings, even though they are NO (modesty, proLife, anti contraception, daily "Mass", frequent confession, rosary daily).  So she is pretty innocent, but does know she could get into a college with laced with evil.  

    Thanks Frances for the suggestions, but I don't have any control over what she does.  That would be up to her and she wants to go to college.  She just asked me for advice, and help in finding as conservative a one as her elementary and high school.  

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    « Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 02:35:11 AM »
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  • St. Mary's Academy and College

    The SSPX has a liberal arts college. I don't plan on attending it, as a liberal arts degree would be useless to me, so I haven't looked into it a whole lot. However, I would assume that it is a good Catholic college, considering it is run by traditional Catholics.

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    « Reply #13 on: September 15, 2013, 02:44:20 AM »
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  • I know nothing more than simply that it exists, but you might suggest she have a look at this school as it advertises itself as a Trad college.
    http://fishermore.edu/welcome/

    It looks like these are the degrees they offer:
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    Students complete the B.A. degree by choosing a concentration in one or more of the following academic disciplines: Theology, Philosophy, Literature, History, Classical Studies, Economics & Finance. (Note:  A general B.A. in Liberal Arts can be earned by taking a broad selection of electives across all disciplines, as approved by the Dean of the College.)
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    « Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 10:34:31 PM »
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  • Beatifico, I am not one who believes that the Popes and Bishops in union with him after Vatican II have become heretical. With that being said, here is towards actually responding to what you were asking for... Here are some colleges that you could refer her to so that she can freely look into it herself:

    Christendom College in Front Royal VA is probably good for what you say she wants. http://www.christendom.edu/  Also, Benedictine in Kansas http://www.benedictine.edu/, and Franciscan University http://www.franciscan.edu/, and Thomas Aquinas College in California http://www.thomasaquinas.edu/. And Ave Maria in Naples, FL https://www.avemaria.edu/.

    Christendom is definitely the most conservative and sheltered atmosphere of all these. If she does not want to go where they are co-ed, pro gαy/lesbian, pro choice, etc. she would do well to go to any of these schools. God bless!