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Offline AnonymousCatholic

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What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
« on: October 28, 2018, 02:38:50 AM »
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  • Just read in another thread skydiving is a sin and tattoos, (guess the thread  ;D) so what else is considered a sin? Random off the wall stuff that isn't quite obvious. Is smoking a sin? Or mountain biking?


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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2018, 11:32:16 AM »
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  • Just read in another thread skydiving is a sin and tattoos, (guess the thread  ;D) so what else is considered a sin? Random off the wall stuff that isn't quite obvious. Is smoking a sin? Or mountain biking?
    In te 1800s a lot of children in Bohemia and Austria were told it was sinful to chew the host after receiving Holy Communion. Needless to say some of them left to become Protestant due to the bitterness of being lied to. You see, they realized the priest chews his host at Mass. I see it all the time as MC.
    To this day, priests and catechism still tell you not to chew, but I've never heard anyone say it was a sin. 
    You can read an account of these happenings in a book called "Czech Voices", I don't remember the author though.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll


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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2018, 11:59:30 AM »
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  • I think that smoking could be a sin ... given its impact on health, vitality, etc.  But only if it's a habit.  There's nothing inherently sinful about, say, having a single cigarette, on social occasions ... or even a few here or there.  For some years, I used to go out once a week and have on cigarette, after dinner ... which a group of us men enjoyed after singing Sunday Vespers at our church.  But habitually smoking could be a sin if it impacts health.  It's also expensive, so you might be impacting your family financially.

    I doubt that there's a high risk of death with mountain biking.  With skydiving, it was just reported on the news that one particular local skydiving location near me has had 20 people die since 1999, so one per year.  As with anything, the risk needs to be balanced against its benefit.  What benefit is there to skydiving that would justify the risk?  Very little.  If you want a rush, there are lots of amusement park rides that'll whip your around even in free-fall states.

    Mountain-biking is not in the same category at all.

    Now, I, as a husband and father, gave up riding motorcycles when I got married.  There's a significantly-elevated risk of death vs. a car.  You could be the best and most skilled rider in the world, but you're dead if some car-driver on the road doesn't see you.  So what's the benefit, my personal amusement?  That does not justify the elevated risk.  Now, if I couldn't afford a car and the gas money for a car, and I lived in a temperate climate, I could potentially justify riding a motorcycle.  But not just for my own amusement.

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #3 on: October 28, 2018, 12:12:51 PM »
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  • I think that smoking could be a sin ... given its impact on health, vitality, etc.  But only if it's a habit.  There's nothing inherently sinful about, say, having a single cigarette, on social occasions ... or even a few here or there.  For some years, I used to go out once a week and have on cigarette, after dinner ... which a group of us men enjoyed after singing Sunday Vespers at our church.  But habitually smoking could be a sin if it impacts health.  It's also expensive, so you might be impacting your family financially.

    I doubt that there's a high risk of death with mountain biking.  With skydiving, it was just reported on the news that one particular local skydiving location near me has had 20 people die since 1999, so one per year.  As with anything, the risk needs to be balanced against its benefit.  What benefit is there to skydiving that would justify the risk?  Very little.  If you want a rush, there are lots of amusement park rides that'll whip your around even in free-fall states.

    Mountain-biking is not in the same category at all.

    Now, I, as a husband and father, gave up riding motorcycles when I got married.  There's a significantly-elevated risk of death vs. a car.  You could be the best and most skilled rider in the world, but you're dead if some car-driver on the road doesn't see you.  So what's the benefit, my personal amusement?  That does not justify the elevated risk.  Now, if I couldn't afford a car and the gas money for a car, and I lived in a temperate climate, I could potentially justify riding a motorcycle.  But not just for my own amusement.
    My sentiments exactly.

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #4 on: October 28, 2018, 12:19:38 PM »
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  • so what else is considered a sin? 
    Going to the beach/mall/ college sports to check out the babes.
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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #5 on: October 28, 2018, 12:59:10 PM »
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  • Going to the beach/mall/ college sports to check out the babes.

    LOL, you might as well just pull out the entire examination of conscience pamphlet and post it here.

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #6 on: October 28, 2018, 02:39:34 PM »
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  • LOL, you might as well just pull out the entire examination of conscience pamphlet and post it here.
    Maybe we should all work together to compile a book of sins, and in the back put things that might be a sin. Of course, at that point an individual may as well take a course in Moral Theology...
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #7 on: October 28, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
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  • LOL, you might as well just pull out the entire examination of conscience pamphlet and post it here.
    What do you mean? 
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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #8 on: October 28, 2018, 07:29:11 PM »
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  • What do you mean?

    OP asked an open-ended question, "what else is a sin?"  Do we need a thread to list every possible sin?

    Actually, however, I think that he was being sarcastic, and partly just rhetorical, expressing disdain for those who denounced skydiving in particular as sinful.

    Student of Qi seemed to understand my comment given how he responded to it ... that this is way too broad a question that would require an entire course in moral theology.

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #9 on: October 28, 2018, 07:32:55 PM »
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  • Actually, however, I think that he was being sarcastic, and partly just rhetorical, expressing disdain for those who denounced skydiving in particular as sinful.
    Thanks for the warning. 
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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #10 on: October 28, 2018, 07:34:00 PM »
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  • Thanks for the warning.

    I might be wrong; sometimes it's hard to read a poster's intent from 3 sentences.


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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 08:54:51 AM »
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  • Bishop Penlaver considered it sinful for a master to make their slaves work from Saturday afternoon through Sunday. Their were laws on the books to punish the masters for disobeying this proviso. 

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    Re: What are things you consider sinful that might not seem sinful?
    « Reply #12 on: November 17, 2018, 11:18:18 PM »
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  • In te 1800s a lot of children in Bohemia and Austria were told it was sinful to chew the host after receiving Holy Communion. Needless to say some of them left to become Protestant due to the bitterness of being lied to. You see, they realized the priest chews his host at Mass. I see it all the time as MC.
    To this day, priests and catechism still tell you not to chew, but I've never heard anyone say it was a sin.
    You can read an account of these happenings in a book called "Czech Voices", I don't remember the author though.

    CZECH VOICES
    Stories from Texas in the Amerikán Národní Kalendár

    Edited by Clinton Machann and James W. Mendl

    Published June 1998
    Texas A&M University Press
    978-0-89096-846-8 paperback $18.95
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.