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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: What Formal Apostasy Looks Like
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2022, 01:35:37 AM »
You must be Mr. Paul Hernandez, aka Pablo, aka Pablo the Mexican, aka the lay exorcist, aka chief in charge, because I heard him use that phrase near a decade ago.

Never heard of him, no matter how many names he was known by.  I have used the term, publicly and in writing, since at least 2009.  Whatever, as it isn't important.

Since I am not a sensitive douche-bag, aka loser, aka wimpy wack-job, aka gutless tool-bag -- like my apparently numerous non-fans -- I chose, as I always do, to respond to your comment rather than down-vote it. 

Offline Matthew

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Re: What Formal Apostasy Looks Like
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2022, 02:44:30 AM »
Never heard of him, no matter how many names he was known by.  I have used the term, publicly and in writing, since at least 2009.  Whatever, as it isn't important.

Since I am not a sensitive douche-bag, aka loser, aka wimpy wack-job, aka gutless tool-bag -- like my apparently numerous non-fans -- I chose, as I always do, to respond to your comment rather than down-vote it.

Yes, I was here when Gladius used that term all the time. This was before anyone outside of Phoeniz, AZ (and maybe a couple other isolated locales) had even heard of Paul Hernandez. Remember, the latter only became infamous after the Resistance started. He had no national (much less worldwide) pulpit before that. He certainly didn't come on CathInfo before the Resistance.

I like the term myself, because it serves a purpose. There is no other irreverent term for the world of Tradition that fits so well. It sounds like (and rolls off the tongue like) Disneyland, which suggests a certain artificiality and fake-ness. BINGO!

There's the real world outside...and then there's Disneyland. Same for Traddieland. For the Trads inside, there are certain important persons, issues, fights -- but as soon as you leave the grounds of Traddieland, everything changes.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What Formal Apostasy Looks Like
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2022, 06:12:30 AM »
There was an indult dude here that I used to butt heads with all the time (Pete Vere), but I actually liked him: Motorcycles, MMA, hunting, cheap beer, etc.  What’s not to like?

... cheap beer.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What Formal Apostasy Looks Like
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2022, 06:14:45 AM »
Mass formal apostasy



Technically not, as per Sean.  Mass heresy.

But I honestly don't think it was that.  I suspect that by the time of V2, nearly half the hierarchy were alread infiltrators and that the whole thing was by design.  So they were never really Catholic in the first place, just intentional destroyers.  Rest were probably weak of faith and just went along.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What Formal Apostasy Looks Like
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2022, 06:16:22 AM »
Maybe I’m wrong, but while Assisi would be an act of idolatry it wouldn’t technically be apostasy right?  Like I’d assume the SIN of worshipping with Muslims is different than repudiating Christianity in favor of Islam, at least if we’re being technical which clearly we are here

Correct.  Canon Law holds that someone who participates in non-Catholic worship becomes SUSPECT of heresy (or apostasy) and that if the activity continues for 6 months, there's a presumption of heresy (or apostasy).