Author Topic: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation? (Read 28247 times)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #110 on:** March 16, 2022, 05:01:12 AM »

In the real world everything is not solely judged by whether it is a sin or not, really almost nothing we do every day is judged by whether it is a sin or not. The "sin or not, Jone moral theology only system" does not work with young people, the only ones I am concerned with here. With that "system", when one leaves their book room and goes out into the real world, they will be like a deer in front of headlights. In the real world the Jone Only system is pretty much useless.

MJ use in young girls is an indicator that they are having sɛҳuąƖ relations or will soon. Girls can easily have sɛҳuąƖ relations just by picking out the man they are attracted to and saying lets go. If one is a parent they should treat MJ use in their daughters as a rattlesnake in the home!

MJ use in boys means is only different in that they just can't go out to any girl they are attracted to and say Ok let's do it. They will self abuse themselves. In boys the biggest problem is that they lose their drive for improving themselves, reaching their God given potential.

Those are just two effects of MJ for recreational use to show that in the real world, sin is not the final arbiter of everything. I made a list before of other examples where sin is not the final arbiter, see below, but people of your certain personality type likely will not understand, because they live in a room, and not the real world:

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Like I said, we are from two different worlds, different places, having lived totally different lives.

It is not a sin to allow one's daughter to go out on a "date" with a stranger that the parents have never seen.
It is not a sin for your children to go with their friends on Summer break to Florida.
It is not a sin for a husband to go help the neighbors 20 year old daughter whenever she calls
It is not a sin to have one's daughter clean homes of men.
It is not a sin to leave your daughter alone to play with boys
It is not a sin for one's daughter to smoke marijuana at a "party" with "friends" the parents do not even know.
It is not a sin to leave one's door or garage open at night
It is not a sin to swim in black water that is home to Gators, Snapping Turtles and venomous snakes.
It is not a sin to work on electrical appliances with power connected.

All of these examples are dangerous occasions of sin or physical harm. Whether something is a sin or not isn't the sole determinant of whether it is wise to do. Nature never forgives, we have a fallen nature.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #111 on:** March 16, 2022, 06:28:04 AM »

You appear to be operating on a caricature of what's being spoken of. Jone clearly indicated that the use of narcotics is not sinful when done "occasionally". You seem to have in your mind the vision of a family sitting around smoking pot and getting high together on a daily basis. Also, getting high is a mortal sin without grave justification. For some reason these distinctions aren't making it through whatever mental image of pot use you're dealing with here. We're talking about taking one hit or a microdose to relax, not sitting there getting high with a cloud of marijuana smoke in the room. That's no different than taking a sip of wine. Jone clearly states the moral equivalency of alcohol and any other narcotics.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #112 on:** March 16, 2022, 06:29:11 AM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on March 14, 2022, 11:08:43 PM

No evasion, RabiesMan.

How did you gain experience that allowed you to compare priests' advice and penitents' continued sinfulness?

You cannot make the comparison you made of multiple priests and penitents unless you have knowledge of both the advice and the subsequent behaviors.

You made a sweeping generalization about the ineffectuality of SSPX priests' advice.

How did you gain knowledge of priests' advice to others?

How did you gain knowledge of the serial bedroom activities of others?

Only perverse and sinful means would give you information that would support your claim.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #113 on:** March 16, 2022, 06:38:44 AM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 14, 2022, 08:38:10 PM

In my experience very few if any SSPX priests (that's where I go) can guide young people in matters of MJ, alcohol, self-abuse, pornography and pre-marital relations, because they have no personal experience whatsoever. That is why I see the young people leave and go into the world as soon as they are able. That is what happened in the 1960's when 80% of Americans went to mass and the Novus Ordo did not exist. The priest didn't have a clue how to deal with it. I see women counselors who never had any children, giving lectures about how to raise children, and college professors who have never had to use their theories in the real world, teaching students . They are only good for teaching those that know little, like children. "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a king".

If you have not smoked pot you can't know anything but what you read. If you have friends who smoke pot, that is one way to learn about the effects by seeing them and how they live. Do you have any experience with relatives and friends who smoke pot?

You made this very revealing statement.

You claimed that your "experience" (your exact word) allowed you to know the advice of multiple priests (you used the plural) and were in a position to know the results of that advice regarding five concerns. So, unless 1 penitent had sins related to all five topics, you are claiming you have knowledge of the sins of multiple penitents before and after the advice of multiple priests.

You cannot know the advice of multiple priests unless you were told by the priests and penitents or listened at the confessional. Which is it? Did multiple priests break the seal of the confessional? Or did you listen to the confessions of others? Or did multiple people decide that they also needed to confess their sins to you? Which is it?

You cannot know the outcome of that advice unless you can compare the sins before and after the advice. To make that comparison you must have knowledge of the sɛҳuąƖ activities of multiple people. How did you get that knowledge? Did all those penitents give you a tally of their porn use, masturbation, and fornication? Were you doing occult paranormal "remote viewing"? Or were you a serial Peeping Tom?

Of course, there is another possibility… You lied that you have "experience," simply did the Meg thing, presumed you know the interior forum and project acts about which you could only perversely know or imagine, and are just what we know you to be—a rabid blowhard perverted bullsh*tter.

Your own statement reveals that you are a seriously disordered person—sɛҳuąƖly and spiritually—who foams and perversely ruminates about and projects the sɛҳuąƖ sins of others. It seems that your stated sɛҳuąƖ past is reflected in your present disorder.

Totally disgusting.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #114 on:** March 16, 2022, 06:43:22 AM »

Answer this question and you'll have your answer:

What's the purpose of drinking alcohol for recreation?

To answer that you need to ask the question of what is the purpose of recreation?

After a tough, stressful day, filled with anxiety, adults commonly will have a drink of alcohol ... to help relieve the stress and to wind down. Is that wrong too? No, that is "recreation" in the true sense. It helps UNWIND the day's stress so one can be "rejuvenated" a little bit to carry on with life the next day. That is the very purpose of sleep and why people have dreams. God designed our bodies to process a lot of the cognitive stuff we deal with all day and to unwind our brains.

So by "recreation," we're not talking about "just for thrills". "Recreation" in Catholic thinking is not equivalent to getting "pleasure" or "enjoyment" (although most people find recreation enjoyable). In modern parlance, however, it's become the equivalent, "recreation" = "having fun". So you're also imposing a worldly distortion of the concept of recreation onto this discussion.

If someone has issues with anxiety and needs to have a tiny hit of pot (not to the point of losing control of their reason), a microdose or a hit of a less potent formulation (or strain), there's absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between that and coming home after working and drinking a shot of whiskey or a glass of wine. ZERO.

You have made no attempt whatsoever to address those arguments but continue to keep emoting against straw men (scenarios we're not talking about), evoking images of families sitting down together in the evening around a bong and filling the room with pot smoke as they all get high. Or you have some perverted vision of people using it to seduce girls/woman. ALL OF THOSE ARE WRONG and are NOT WHAT ANYONE HERE IS TALKING ABOUT. Consequently, all your posts are STRAW MEN.

You've demonstrated that you're incapable of thinking rationally about this subject.

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