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Author Topic: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?  (Read 28522 times)

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Re: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2022, 08:58:46 PM »
Marijuana, Cocaine, Hashish, Quaaludes and the like, they all were the high waving red flag that the female users were promiscuous ("they liked to party"). There was no moderation about it. All MJ smokers were promiscuous. I do not see why it would be any different today, especially since MJ is more potent.

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Re: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2022, 09:06:22 PM »
You have never smoked pot nor used it to seduce girls, so how would you know about  "tusing smaller doses that do not lead to the complete loss of reason'?

Because I've read about micro-dosing an also less potent strains.  None of this changes the principles involved in assessing the morality.  Of course it's not permitted to seduce girls (with or without marijuana involved).  I surmise that alcohol is used more often than MJ for those purposes.  All of this is to miss the moral principles.  If someone has anxiety issues (and I know people with almost debilitating anxiety), and a hit of a less-potent strain of MJ or a micro-dose of MJ helps alleviate the anxiety without causing them to lose use of reason, taken in the privacy of their own home, without any other nefarious intent than to relieve anxiety, without intending to drive a vehicle impaired, in a state where recreational use is legal, and holding a job that is not put at risk by the possiblility of a random drug test, etc. etc. then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it from a moral standpoint.  Period.  You keep wandering away from the moral principles involved into all kinds of caricatures regarding what some or many pot users do, which is no different than what people do when they abuse alcohol.


Re: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2022, 09:12:30 PM »
How much pot do you smoke recreationally in "moderation"?
I don't. And I made that much clear in my response above in my opposition to the "culture" that surrounds MJ.

Yet, it doesn't "take one to know one" in order to gauge the morality of the issue. I don't have to be an alcoholic or even to drink alcohol to say that it is morally neutral in-and-of itself. God gives men certain dispositions, and while it may have a more negative effect with one, it may be of benefit to another (citing the medical usage).

That is irrelevant my friend, you are starting to get emotional. I asked a question in the OP, that is no answer. Do you smoke pot or let your children smoke pot?
Interesting you accuse Pax of emotionalism when you specifically direct the question to something of emotional weight like his own children. It is clear that you are the one with the emotionalism on this subject, not Pax, and this is shown by your own effort to coax him into an emotional response. Which is diabolic.

Re: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2022, 09:26:31 PM »
Because I've read about micro-dosing an also less potent strains. (less potent today is the MJ of my time, and it was the certain signal of a promiscuous girl).  None of this changes the principles involved in assessing the morality (principles mean nothing, they smoked pot, they were promiscuous. while you are discussing principles, they are "partying".) .  Of course it's not permitted to seduce girls (with or without marijuana involved).  I surmise that alcohol is used more often than MJ for those purposes (yes it is, till they figure out that MJ is far better, which they will once it is as easy to get. Two tokes and they are in the bag).  All of this is to miss the moral principles.  If someone has anxiety issues (and I know people with almost debilitating anxiety),(they are not smoking for recreation, it is irrelevant to the discussion)  and a hit of a less-potent strain of MJ or a micro-dose of MJ helps alleviate the anxiety without causing them to lose use of reason, taken in the privacy of their own home, without any other nefarious intent than to relieve anxiety, without intending to drive a vehicle impaired, in a state where recreational use is legal, and holding a job that is not put at risk by the possiblility of a random drug test, etc. etc. then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it from a moral standpoint.  Period (Irrelevant, not recreational usage).  You keep wandering away from the moral principles (your "moral principles" won't convince any pot smoker not to "party", it is just fluff,  it will go in one ear and out the other. They will laugh at your naiveness), are not real involved into all kinds of caricatures regarding what some or many pot users do, which is no different than what people do when they abuse alcohol (MJ is much better than alcohol for lowering inhibitions. what I say here is the real world, while your moral principles have as much affect on these people as water off a duck).
My answers above in bold.

Re: What's the purpose of smoking marijuana for Recreation?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2022, 09:44:34 PM »
It is interesting the different personalities and how they perceive these things. Ladislaus, and Pax Vobis are very similar, their thinking is theoretical, and everything must fit into what they know. That is the way they are wired. I on the other hand am a field marshal, I am out in the battlefield with no one to ask for orders, I am it, if I don't think fast on my feet, I, and all of my men are as good as dead. My teachers, my grandfather, had 5000 employees under him, and my father had 2000. I learned from them. I fortunately did not have as many employees depending on me like they did, but I had at least 50 employees and thousands of other people who were employees in companies I supplied, that depended on my going to work every day and making the right decisions. When one does that day in day out, one learns to think fast because at any moment you could make a mistake that will affect many people's lives.  One has to be able to think outside of the box and be quick to change anything that does not work. The mindset of Ladi and Pax Vobis would have failed in the 1960's revolution, that is what happened to the priests. For young people it will go in one ear and out the other. It went and still goes in one ear and out the other for me and I am now in my late 60's.