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Offline oppositeman

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We are Stardust
« on: July 11, 2013, 12:10:51 PM »
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  • We all know that all good things come from God. We just accept this and give it little thought. How profound is this reality.

    The universe, containing over 40 billion trillion stars, that science is aware of, is comprised of the “stuff”, in varying amounts and combinations, of the Elements listed in the Periodic Chart.  This comprises perhaps 20% of the known universe; the rest being made up of dark matter and dark energy; of which science has no fundamental understanding.  How profound is this reality.

    In God’s design of His Universe He has built in mechanisms for stars to be born, live their lives, and to die a violent death.  Their death creates an explosion far more powerful than any person could possibly comprehend.  How profound is this reality.

    This “star stuff” is scattered into the Universe. It formed our planet and through other mechanisms He created, He created us. How profound is this reality.

    WELL, PONDER THIS REALITY, Psalm 103 –
    14. “For He knows how we are formed, remembers that we are dust.
    15. Our days are like the grass; like flowers of the field we blossom.
    16. The wind sweeps over us and we are gone; our place knows us no more.”

    Because of our ego and pride we are sometimes stealing God’s glory – thinking of the good we do as coming from ourselves.  We almost constantly rely on our own intellect and seldom stop and ask the God of Creation what He thinks about this or that. People think they know what is best for them – people are wrong – only God knows what is best for every single person on planet earth. If we spent more time listening to God and cooperation with Him and less time listening to ourselves and doing what we want this world would be a much better place for all of us.

    Many of us need to stop relying on ourselves. God has all the answers – perfectly. He is patiently waiting for us to ask Him so He can guide us in changing our world.  We all need to take personal responsibility for making or allowing the world to become what it has.  We all need to take a personal responsibility in doing what we can to change it into what God wants it to be. Ask Him what you can do to make the world a better place. If you are doing something every day to make things better, than that is great.  Also, we need to pray for our leaders so all laws are in alignment with the 10 Commandments.

    We are just stardust – nothing more. We can do nothing good without God’s help. We need to stop relying on ourselves and recognize that what makes us powerful is God acting through each and every one of us. Everything good that we think and do comes from God. Before we go to sleep (You can remind yourself to do this by setting an alarm on your mobile device or something else)  we should all take a minute or two and thank God for working through us to bring love, understanding, and compassion into the lives of others.  We should always give God the glory for all the good we do because without Him we are just stardust.


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    « Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 12:39:07 PM »
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    In God’s design of His Universe He has built in mechanisms for stars to be born, live their lives, and to die a violent death.  Their death creates an explosion far more powerful than any person could possibly comprehend.  How profound is this reality.


    Ah!  Star birth and star death!  Wonderful!  You clearly believe that the universe is billions of years old!  And that God created the Universe through the process of the Big Bang, and then through the slow magnificent process of evolution.  Just that He didn't bother to tell us how He did it; instead He fibbed and told us what was in Genesis.  

    Evolution is a fabulous philosophy.

    It helps folks to justify the idea that one section of humanity--usually whites (but the Chinese and some other Asians, too)--are more evolved than their cousins from the African continent--blacks.  And, of course, this lends credence to the thought that blacks are closer to being monkeys and apes than the rest of the human race.  

    And, of course going further, this recognition of the idea that there is a more evolved race of men than another helps justify the idea of selectively choosing an appropriate higher-evolved mate, to spawn more highly-evolved children. And that would also justify denigrating all who choose to breed with the lower evolved classes.  Perhaps, this philosophy would even justify the denigration of the lower-evolved people all together, and perhaps encourage authority to scrub the world of them so that it would be possible to move forward at a more rapid pace with our divine star-written evolution!

    And you can take it from there.  There's many fun implications of this mode of thought...

    ...the idea that we're all on this wonderful journey of evolution!  From stardust, to pond scuм, to chimps, to blacks, to more intelligent races of human.   :smile:

    Stardust, man.  Groovy.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle


    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
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  • I always liked the song "Stardust Melodies".  I first heard it sung by Willie Nelson.  Of course, it's been sung by many others.  A beautiful song.


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    « Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 01:06:31 PM »
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  • One of my favorites:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/kzPLQpLAxc4[/youtube]
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 01:16:24 PM »
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    This “star stuff” is scattered into the Universe. It formed our planet and through other mechanisms He created, He created us. How profound is this reality.


    If by "reality" you mean heresy and blasphemy, then, yeah, like wow, man.

    Matthew, I think oppositeman is just poche messing about and trying to clog up the forum with pseudo-spiritual garbage.

    Put a stop to this idiocy. Lots of us are growing very tired of this stuff.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar


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    « Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 01:20:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: Stephen Francis
    Put a stop to this idiocy. Lots of us are growing very tired of this stuff.


    :applause:
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 11:46:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: Charlemagne
    Quote from: Stephen Francis
    Put a stop to this idiocy. Lots of us are growing very tired of this stuff.


    :applause:


     :applause: Yes indeed! Totally fed up with it. :fryingpan:
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 07:37:25 PM »
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  •  :geezer: :applause: :sign-surrender: :ape: :popcorn: :gandalf: :smoke-pot: :dancing-banana: :guitar:

      "We are stardust, We are golden, We are billion year old carbon, And we've got to get ourselves back to the Garden!".     C.S.N.&Y.

    L. O. V. E.
    P. E. A. C. E.
    B. R. O  T. H. E. R. H. O. O. D.

    Ooooooh, WOODSTOCK GENERATION RULES!!!!!!!!!!

    F. E. E. L. I. N. '.      G. R. O. O. V. Y. !!!!!!!!!!!

     :cool: :rahrah:    You've come a long way, baby!
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


    Offline Kazimierz

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    « Reply #8 on: July 12, 2013, 07:45:57 PM »
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  • Starstuff......right off the Carl Sagan and his billyonions a billyonions of stars...and stuff......page

    for those who remember the series Cosmos. Great music, bad science.

     :facepalm:
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 07:51:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    I always liked the song "Stardust Melodies".  I first heard it sung by Willie Nelson.  Of course, it's been sung by many others.  A beautiful song.


    I was thinking "dust in the wind". By Kansas









    May God bless you and keep you

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    « Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 05:46:32 PM »
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  • THIS IS THE CATHOLIC POSITION ON THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE
    THIS IS COPIED FROM CATHOLIC.COM

    The controversy surrounding evolution touches on our most central beliefs about ourselves and the world. Evolutionary theories have been used to answer questions about the origins of the universe, life, and man. These may be referred to as cosmological evolution, biological evolution, and human evolution. One’s opinion concerning one of these areas does not dictate what one believes concerning others.

    People usually take three basic positions on the origins of the cosmos, life, and man: (1) special or instantaneous creation, (2) developmental creation or theistic evolution, (3) and atheistic evolution. The first holds that a given thing did not develop, but was instantaneously and directly created by God. The second position holds that a given thing did develop from a previous state or form, but that this process was under God’s guidance. The third position claims that a thing developed due to random forces alone.

    Related to the question of how the universe, life, and man arose is the question of when they arose. Those who attribute the origin of all three to special creation often hold that they arose at about the same time, perhaps six thousand to ten thousand years ago. Those who attribute all three to atheistic evolution have a much longer time scale. They generally hold the universe to be ten billion to twenty billion years old, life on earth to be about four billion years old, and modern man (the subspecies homo sapiens) to be about thirty thousand years old. Those who believe in varieties of developmental creation hold dates used by either or both of the other two positions.

     

    The Catholic Position

    What is the Catholic position concerning belief or unbelief in evolution? The question may never be finally settled, but there are definite parameters to what is acceptable Catholic belief.

    Concerning cosmological evolution, the Church has infallibly defined that the universe was specially created out of nothing. Vatican I solemnly defined that everyone must "confess the world and all things which are contained in it, both spiritual and material, as regards their whole substance, have been produced by God from nothing" (Canons on God the Creator of All Things, canon 5).

    The Church does not have an official position on whether the stars, nebulae, and planets we see today were created at that time or whether they developed over time (for example, in the aftermath of the Big Bang that modern cosmologists discuss). However, the Church would maintain that, if the stars and planets did develop over time, this still ultimately must be attributed to God and his plan, for Scripture records: "By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and all their host [stars, nebulae, planets] by the breath of his mouth" (Ps. 33:6).


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    « Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 08:10:41 PM »
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  • I HAD TO LOOK TWICE TO MAKE SURE I WAS IN A CATHOLIC FORUM

    ASH WEDNESDAY - GN 3:19 "Remember, man, you are dust and to dust you will return."

    You guy with you wise crack remarks need to think before you respond and to make sure you should look it up - THAT WAY YOU WON'T PUT YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH

    If you don't believe in what I said say so in an ADULT manner - you all missed the whole point of what I wrote - do any of you care to say something about that?

    From Catholic.com - The Church does not have an official position on whether the stars, nebulae, and planets we see today were created at that time or whether they developed over time (for example, in the aftermath of the Big Bang that modern cosmologists discuss). However, the Church would maintain that, if the stars and planets did develop over time, this still ultimately must be attributed to God and his plan, for Scripture records: "By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and all their host [stars, nebulae, planets] by the breath of his mouth" (Ps. 33:6).

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    « Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 08:17:56 PM »
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    We are just stardust – nothing more.


    Apostatical, heretical, false, absurd, and scandalous to pious ears.

    We are an immaterial, eternal and immortal soul created by the immortal and uncreated One and Triune God at the very instant when our physical existence comes into being  (Hint:  9-months later we are born.)  Our physical bodies will die but our souls will live forever, ultimately, either in eternal bliss or eternal agony.  In either outcome, our souls will someday be united to our former physical bodies, either to a glorified, resurrected body or one which is unglorified and despicable.