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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Was Charlemagne an adulterer?
« on: December 30, 2023, 07:42:19 AM »
After watching this video today near the end it mentions that Charlemagne had 9 wives and many concubines. This seems like a big issue for his Catholicism, I was unaware of this before the video, is this perhaps one of the reasons he is not a canonised Saint?

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Offline Bonaventure

Re: Was Charlemagne an adulterer?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2023, 12:08:45 PM »
As someone who can trace their lineage to Charlemagne, this is quite interesting.  Probably explains why I've got plenty of company.

From Britannica (online): "Never far from his mind was his large family: five wives in sequence, several concubines, and at least 18 children over whose interests he watched carefully."

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charlemagne/King-of-the-Franks

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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Was Charlemagne an adulterer?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2023, 03:29:53 PM »
Why is this a "big issue for Catholicism?" Charlemagne's indiscretions have been well known for centuries. Concubinage was a very common, even "traditional" custom among pre/early- feudal Europeans. It's bad, obviously, but it was no shocker. A more significant barrier to his canonization was probably his rejection of Nicea II. 
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Was Charlemagne an adulterer?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2023, 04:02:15 PM »
Quote from: Mithrandylan on December 30, 2023, 03:29:53 PM
Why is this a "big issue for Catholicism?" Charlemagne's indiscretions have been well known for centuries. Concubinage was a very common, even "traditional" custom among pre/early- feudal Europeans. It's bad, obviously, but it was no shocker. A more significant barrier to his canonization was probably his rejection of Nicea II.
For some reason I always thought he was a 'good Catholic'. :(
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Offline alaric

Re: Was Charlemagne an adulterer?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2023, 04:14:56 PM »
Solomon has a thousand wives and fell into pagan idolatry, but no one has a problem with that.


" Wisest" man ever they say right?


Personally, I think he was an idiot.


Who could put up with a thousand wives, when most men can barely handle one?
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