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    Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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    From Exorcism 1975 - 1978


    The priests whose names are listed below, testify that, based on their personal knowledge of this case of possession, they are firmly convinced of the authenticity of the revelations made by the demons, by order of the Blessed Virgin:

    Abbot Albert d'Arx, Nieder-Buchsiten,

    Abbot Arnold Egli, Ramiswil,

    Abbot Ernest Fischer, missionary, Gossau,

    Reverend Father Pius Gervasi, o.s.b., Disentis,

    Abbot Karl Holdener, retired, Ried.

    Reverend Father Gregoire Meyer, Trimbach,

    Reverend Father Robert Rinderer, e.p.p.s., Auw,

    Abbot Louis Veillard, retired, Cerneux-Pequignot.



    NOTE (French edition).

    The eight priests or religious named above are all of Swiss nationality, except Father Fischer, who is a German: they all took part in the exorcisms, except Father Gregoire Meyer, who was at one time Spiritual Director for the possessed woman, and therefore knows her well.

    Two other priests, of French nationality, have also taken part in the exorcisms.



    MESSAGE TO PRIESTS - EXHORTATIONS TO RETURN TO THE LIFE OF THE GOSPEL

    The Abbot Verdi-Garandieu, human demon, priest of the diocese of Tarbes in the seventeenth century, addresses this message, through the possessed woman, to his brothers in the Priesthood, to beseech them - by order of the Most Holy Trinity and the Virgin Mary - to go back onto the narrow road of the Gospel, and so prevent themselves in their turn, from suffering in eternal Hell the horrible fate which befell him because of his infidelities to grace.



    At the end of the exorcism of Leo XIII used, in this instance, by Fr. Fischer, numerous invocations were pronounced, including that of Saint Vincent Ferrier,the great Spanish Dominican missionary of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries; he traveled throughout Spain, Italy, Switzerland and France, where he died at Vannes in 1419. He was a formidable opponent of the devil, from whom he wrestled many souls,[19] through his life of love and penance and his stirring sermons.

    In short: Saint Vincent Ferrier, a model to imitate; Abbot Verdi-Garandieu, an example not to follow.

    The demon is going to speak for nearly two and a half hours on end. We reproduce here the text of his adjurations, by order of Heaven, to the priests of our time.



    Verdi-Garandieu after having pointed out that he also has become “a demon among the demons”, suddenly begins to cry out, saying): “What a stupid thing I did not responding to grace and leading the life that I led!”

    (Then while uttering woeful cries, he exclaims, making the possessed woman jump to her feet): “Why did I let myself go that way, why? Why did I agree to being admitted to the Priesthood, this very heavy responsibility, since I was not equal to it if I was not prepared to take the trouble to lift myself up to the heights of this great ideal? Why did I give bad example as thousands and thousands of priests do today, by not acting in accordance with my priesthood? Why didn't I teach the catechism as I should have done?

    I spent my time looking at the women's dresses, rather than in observing the commandments of God. The truth of it is, I was neither hot nor cold, I was lukewarm and the Lord vomited me from His mouth. In my youth, I was still good, I still responded to grace.”

    (While he was speaking, we heard his cries through the possessed woman.)

    “It was later that I became lukewarm. It was when I entered onto the wide and easy road of pleasure and abandoned the narrow road of virtue, by not responding to grace any more; and from then on, I fell lower and lower.

    At the beginning, I used to still confess my sins; I wanted to change myself, but I did not succeed because I no longer knew how to pray adequately. I did not respond to grace because of this tepidity, I went further down to the stage of coldness. Between this tepidity and coldness, there is only the distance of an onionskin. If I had been warm and ardent, I would not have known this wretched destiny.

    If the priests of our time do not pull themselves together - Ah, well! They will experience the same fate that I have. At the present time, there are thousands, tens of thousands of priests in the world who are like me, who give bad example, who are lukewarm and who no longer respond to God's grace. All, if they do not change themselves, will have a destiny no better than that which I, Verdi-Garandieu, have had.

    Ah! What a destiny for me in Hell! If, at least, I had not been born. If I were able to come back to life again! Ah! How I would love to return to earth in order to live a better life! Ah! How I would love to spend my nights and my days on my knees, in prayer, calling on the Most High! I would invoke the Angels and Saints of Heaven, in order for them to help me to leave the road to perdition, but I can no longer go back, I am condemned (he finishes in a woeful voice).

    Alas, the priests do not know what it is to he condemned to Hell, and what Hell is. At the present time, nearly everyone on earth takes the line of least resistance. They want to enjoy the pleasures of life. They are convinced that practicing humanism, as they call it, being of the mentality of their time, is something that is now established forever.

    Bishops, cardinals and abbots give an example that is no better than that given by their subordinates. Do they live according to the simplicity that Christ used to practice in his meals and the kind of food he ate? As the Gospel says, Jesus Christ did indeed participate in banquets, to which He was invited by various people, but at these meals, He did not eat very much. And if He did eat a little during the course of these banquets, it must also be stressed that, many times, He chose to suffer from hunger.



    The Holy Family and the Apostles too, fasted a great deal. Otherwise, they would not have received all the graces with which they were blessed. And yet, Jesus did not need to acquire grace, since He was Himself the Author of grace, but He wanted to give an example: to His Apostles certainly, but also to all the cardinals. bishops and priests of all the centuries. But what good was that, since in our time cardinals, bishops and priests sit down to their meals in luxurious surroundings and enjoy delicious dishes.

    They go so far as to ruin their health in following this way of life, but they imagine that this befits their position as bishop, cardinal or provincial. Poor cooks, who imagine that because they are serving bishops or important people, they must present complicated things on the table! They imagine, poor souls, that it would be a disgrace for them if they were not able to bring all these dishes to the table. They forget that by doing this, they are not helping the bishops to imitate Christ any more than the priests do. It would be better if these cooks could tell such personages that Christ (too) used to be alive, and that He lived much more simply.

    Those from On High (he points upward) value whatever is in accordance with the imitation of Jesus Christ; and what is being done at the present time is completely contrary to the imitation of Jesus Christ. Many live in refinement, luxury, and abundance, to the point of excess, to the point even of sinfulness. Sin has often had its beginnings at the table. Sinning begins there where a certain asceticism should be practiced, but this asceticism is rejected.

    The rejection of the spirit of sacrifice is not the sin, but the open door to sin through which it can enter. It is this lack of asceticism that slowly leads to sin. Between the two there is only an onionskin. If the priest does not follow the teachings of the Church, it is we who come along to pull him by the end of his robe in order to lead him onto our path. It is only a little end of his robe that we take hold of, just for a moment, but with the hope of carrying off the whole habit.

    For a long time, I fully intended to become a good priest; but it must be mentioned that priests are attacked by us (demons) much more than the lay people are. Certainly, the lay people are also in danger, especially those who are doing their utmost to be among the just and those who have an important responsibility. But since the priest has a very great power for blessing, we give preference to attacking the priest First of all.

    As far as I was concerned, I used to remember that I was a priest and, at the beginning, I used to exercise my Priesthood responsibly. And then, as time went by, I found that monotonous and, forgetting prayer, I also forgot about celibacy. I cut out prayer, firstly because I believed I was too busy, and then I used to take it up again occasionally, and then, finally, I abandoned it altogether. I used to think that those long prayers in the breviary were tedious and useless and, in the end, I lost the taste for prayer.



    When I cut out the breviary, I fell into the sin of impurity, and from that moment on, I had no more taste for saying the Mass. This was a chain reaction. When I fell into impurity this was the chain reaction - I no longer said the Mass devoutly because I was no longer in the state of grace. In this condition, the reading of the Bible and of the Gospel, in particular, and also the sight of God's commandments, became a reproach to me.

    There was a warning for me in that, and because I paid no attention to the warning, I resolved not to teach the children as it should have been my duty to teach them. How could I have been able to teach them about Good, if I myself was not practicing it? But those who, today, call themselves humanists and modernists, know all that just as well as I do.

    How could they impose on lay people and children, things that they themselves do not believe and do not practice? How could they bear teaching them as they should, knowing that their teaching is not in accord with their interior life, and that they would therefore be telling enormous lies? Within many, in these times, the heart has become like an abyss of death. There are many more than one would think, who find themselves in this state. They are rotten apples; how could a rotten apple give off a good smell? It is only a priest who strives to attain virtue, who can touch souls and give them what they need.

    If priests were to give an example of virtue, in particular to the young, we would have a world completely different from the one we know. You would have a world a thousand times and more better than the one you have at the present time. How can you want to spread Good if you do not have it in you? How can I speak of the Holy Spirit, if I myself am happy not to listen to Him? How can one point out the road to follow, when one has left if himself? It is a much deeper tragedy than you can imagine.

    The tragedy is that it is at the very moment when the priest leaves the road of virtue, that he is tempted to draw many souls after him.

    This begins with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which is said from beginning to end without any taste for it. Consequently, no personal benefit is received from it. At all events, that is the way it was for me, and I developed an aversion for the Mass and for its sacred texts, which, for someone who is behaving badly, are a permanent reproach.

    In my case, as for thousands of other priests, there was at least the Transubstantiation which allowed the faithful to assist truly at Mass, because these people cannot know the depths of a priest's heart; but woe betide priests who no longer say what they should say to ensure that the Mass is valid, and who no longer live by it.

    Woe betide anyone who leads the faithful onto the road of error. These priests would do better to shout publicly from the height of the pulpit: “I have sinned. I am no longer capable of practicing virtue. Pray for me, so that I may be converted, and once again teach the ways of virtue.” Speaking in this way would be much better, and we demons would no longer have this power to dominate these priests, because they would have made an act of humility.

    Even if some people were going to develop a contempt for a priest who would speak this way, the majority of those hearing him would be edified by his humility and would be able to help him to pull himself together. The majority of the faithful would have respect for a priest who would express himself in this manner; this would be much better than continuing along the way of lying and hypocrisy.

    What is the use of celebrating Mass facing the people, and telling them: “Come near! God pardons you all your sins. He understands you. Come to the Father of Light; and if you are in the darkness, He will bring you back into grace again.” They all forget that something must be done beforehand, in order for the Father to take you back into His arms and bring you back into His grace.

    It is true that the Father takes His children back into His arms, but before this happens, it is necessary for them to repent and to promise to change the direction of their lives. It is necessary to avoid the roads that lead to perdition.

    The priest ought to think: “I must begin with myself. That would be the only way to be a model for each one, and to be able to preach the teaching of the Holy Spirit and of Jesus Christ to the whole community. That would also be the mission which the. Most High considers that I should preach and carry out among the people.”

    Much too much is said about the love of neighbor, while forgetting that this love results from the love which one has for God. How can one speak of loving one's; neighbor, of drawing nearer to one another, if one forgets the first commandment, the principal commandment: “You must love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength.” The directive to love your neighbor comes only in second place.

    If the priest were to first of all make peace with Those from On High (he points upward), love of neighbor would immediately start to flow out. It is the freemasonic masquerade which says: “It is necessary to love each other, to help each other, to support each other.” But where does all that lead to? Even if one speaks of charity, or of forgiving, or of mutual support, see the result, should this only be the number of present-day ѕυιcιdєs.

    It is true that there is a commandment to love your neighbor as yourself, but that comes after the one to honor and adore God first of all. It is necessary to begin at the very beginning of this commandment, and to love God first, which in fact, includes love of neighbor. It is in the first part that the whole commandment is found. If one were to love God truly, one would not talk incessantly about loving one's neighbor, supporting him, helping him.

    But nothing like that actually happens. They chatter away about it all the time, in the parish rooms, at the bishops' conferences, and even in Rome. They chatter away, they discuss, they decide something, they forget about it, they want to accept everything in a way which Those from On High (he points upward) do not agree with.

    Those from On High (he points upward) are not only Mercy, they are 'also Justice, and I, Verdi-Garandieu, know what I'm talking about! If I had exercised virtue, prayed, done penance, I would not have learned the hard way what I now know. I would have been obliged to ask for crosses in order to help my sheep to sanctify themselves and also to sanctify myself; but I forgot to ask for those things.

    In our times, the majority of priests forget that it is necessary to put into practice the way of the cross, to make self-sacrifices, to pray for others, to forget about oneself. In our times, it should be proclaimed, from the height of the pulpits, to our faithful, that they must do penance to make reparation for and to raise up from the gutter all those who are wallowing there at the present time. This would be a way of practicing Charity in its true sense.

    All that, to be sure, has its importance, but it all sinks into the dust, more especially as God Himself has promised to give us what we need to live, particularly in our era where material things are dispensed in a remarkably organized way. That is why they must not be the main goal of our charity, but the means which allow us to have access to the other, that of God.

    Certainly, it is necessary to help him who is in need, but to proceed from that to over-rating it to the point of thrusting aside duty towards God is too much. It would be much preferable to give one's attention from the height of the pulpit, to leading the people:

    to pray for so and so who finds himself in great spiritual difficulty, and therefore in great danger; to ask them to light a blessed candle, or to make use of the cross, the cross of the dead and of holy “water, not forgetting the Rosary in order to bring help from afar to this person.

    All that brings blessings even when it is done by lay people; it flourishes in discretion and silence. And we (demons), when confronted by such things, have to withdraw our involvement in the affair.

    Men should be reminded from the height of the pulpit, that it is necessary to take religion seriously, to sacrifice themselves for each other in order to keep up perseverance in each one's heart, and thus to keep men on the path of virtue.

    The lay people should also be told that they must pray for the members of the clergy and for all their responsibilities, in order that they may be preserved in the service of God and not fall into the traps of the demon. They must pray for the priests to guide the faithful well. I, too, am a priest, and it is for that reason I suffer terribly in Hell because of the mark of my consecration.

    The priests should also ask the faithful, from the height of the pulpit, to pray for themselves, because they should make it known to the faithful that the demons are attacking them much more strongly than they believe. They should pray for the priests in order that they may persevere in their ministry and in the right direction until the hour of their death. It is necessary also for the lay people to pray for each other, in order that they may continue on the road of virtue and of everything that is good, not just occasionally, but all of the time.

    It is the tragedy of thousands and thousands of priests and lay people that they have grown like tender-weeds. Without warning, at the moment of temptation, they are trampled on by the demon, as Jesus Christ has pointed out to us in the Gospel: because they lack either sun or water, or because the sun has scorched them. This happens more and more as the lay people of our time are turned away from the right road by the priests themselves, who tell them that what used to be done previously has today been cast aside. Among them all (priests and lay people) there used to be some who practiced great virtue, then suddenly, they have wilted because they were not rooted sufficiently deeply in the good earth.

    It is I, Verdi-Garandieu, who am telling you that it is necessary to pray constantly so that priests and lay people may continue in perseverance. It is necessary for priests in particular to know that it must be announced from the height of the pulpit, that prayer is more and more essential in our days. It is necessary to recall that perseverance along the road of the cross is the law of happiness, because he who knows how to bear (trials) is placing himself on the road to Heaven.

    In particular, people who are poor must be told that they have to be content to bear their misfortune because it is later on that they will be profoundly happy in Heaven. Even if the poor have to bear (privations), these are, all things considered, still a long way away from the fastings and sacrifices which were accepted by, for example, the Curé of Ars, and other great Saints, right up to the very end of their lives. It is necessary to tell the poor that they should thank the Lord for the lot in which He has placed them, because acceptance of poverty can help them to imitate Jesus Christ more.

    Thank the Good God, because in accordance with the kind of poverty that you have, you also have much less time when you could, be succuмbing to temptations, since it is necessary for you to work all the time. Those who are endowed with a large family, and who, as a consequence, have much to do to educate and feed them, must thank the Good God three times a day, because in these circuмstances, they have every chance of escaping from the pleasures of the world and of preparing themselves better for the Kingdom of Heaven where their place is reserved.

    When the fourth child comes into some families, then there is a drama both for the people around and for the family itself. What is to be done? What is true for the fourth is true for the second or the third; and, unfortunately, the priests enter into a spirit of understanding when-these complaints are presented to them and agree that the faithful may make use of the pill to avoid the child. The faithful do not realize the danger into which they are putting themselves, because between the taking of the pill (already a serious fault) and abortion (an even more serious fault), the distance is short.



    ABORTION IS MURDER and, consequently, a very grave sin. In our times, people are unwilling to accept as the truth, what has been believed for thousands and thousands of centuries beforehand. So, even if God does not punish onanism straight away, as He punished the crime of Onan, our God considers the means of birth control to be as serious as anything which is done. You just imagine then, what He thinks of abortion! FOR ALL THESE MISDEEDS ARE CONTRARY TO THE PLAN OF SALVATION CONCEIVED BY GOD.



    So, therefore, I Verdi-Garandieu, see myself under an obligation to tell everyone, bishops, cardinals and priests, that they must, from the height of the pulpit, announce - what, then? - : “Follow the way of the Lord, for there where self-denial and sacrifice are found, there also is the possibility of grace.”

    Where there is neither sacrifice nor self-denial, no grace is possible. And where there is neither self-denial nor sacrifice, the very smallest chink offers us, with our guile, the chance of very soon becoming the masters. This little chink is enough for us to turn the whole house upside down, which is what has happened to all your churches at the present time.

    It is necessary to give missions to the people again, and to preach to them again, not from the choir but from the pulpit, as we have already said before. There are even some churches where one must descend to the altar rather than go up to it and, immediately, the people are distracted because their gaze is not directed upward but toward the distractions which abound below, and sometimes a very long way below, right down to our place. These popular missions should be brought back in force, because when the road of virtue is presented in this way, it is a shower of graces that is being offered to the people.

    The influence of a priest who lives according to the laws of the Lord is enormous, which is what can be noted in the life of the Curé of Ars of Ars. The Curé of Ars did not save souls by running off on trips, by eating very fine food, by attending all kinds of conferences, but by remaining in his room and in front of the Most Blessed Sacrament, which is, moreover, what I myself, Verdi-Garandieu, should have done. Instead of that, I neglected my pastoral duties with respect to my parish, and I led it in this manner, onto this path. In our era, there should be thousands and thousands of Curés of Ars, and if they do not still exist, then this man should be being thought of as someone to imitate.

    This is what I, Verdi-Garandieu, am obliged to say: priests must avoid habitual contact with women and must recite the entire breviary. It is a fact that, if the priests do not say the breviary, they are in great danger of succuмbing to temptation; on the other hand, if they do recite it, the Most High Himself helps them to overcome it, because the priests are subjected to great temptations in relation to this. It is noticeable that, even when the priest falls into sin, and in spite of that, recites his breviary, the Most High gives him the chance of continuing his ministry and being a profitable instrument for the faithful.

    It must be said to all those who are subjected to great difficulties, that they must persevere in the hope of the Lord, because the Lord loves to put those who love Him to the test, particularly in an age where financial means allow men to protect themselves against suffering and trials. It must be repeated often, from the height of the pulpit, that they must first of all put their trust in the Lord in order to be able to wrestle against their trials and to bear them.

    At the present time, this point should be stressed very much, because those financial means are an occasion of weakness, especially in parish communities, and because the easy and pleasure-filled (or free and easy) lives of the priests, and even of the bishops, do not lead in this way to the imitation of Christ, but rather to the loss of souls.

    How could the Holy Spirit come into souls, if the priest fosters easy-going ways, by not giving the people the understanding of sin and by holding out bright prospects before them that God is merciful and pardons everything very easily, without their being asked to repent or to do penance. It must be shouted from all the rooftops that the Way of the Cross is required by Heaven. It is by following the Cross of Jesus Christ that one can best help one's neighbor to salvation, because the Good God makes use of this penance; or rather, the Good God makes use of this penance to help in the salvation of the neighbor. Because if one carries out the first part of the commandment of God, one also carries out the second part of the commandment of love.

    Is it really practicing love with regard to God, to celebrate Mass facing the people, as if it were being addressed to the people and not to God? The priests must say their Masses in such a way that they are recognizing that it is uniquely the service of God and the honor of God that are being sought through this Sacrifice. All the rest is only complementary or supplementary; the priests preach far too much about the things of everyday life and about love of neighbor, in general or in particular, forgetting that it is the love of God that leads to the true love of neighbor and the true practice of charity. This manner of action and behavior would, through the practice of self-denial and penance, bring about the salvation of thousands and thousands of souls if people truly set about it. So many souls are falling like snowflakes into Hell, as the privileged souls have so often reminded you.

    If the bishops and priests persist in maintaining this disastrous situation, thousands and thousands of churches will no longer be The Church, which situation has begun to happen even now. For thousands and thousands of the faithful, the present-day sermons in the churches are justifications for remaining perfunctory in the service of the Lord; consequently they are instruments of death, since they do not lead directly to Heaven and do not make people think about it.

    All this happened because the priest himself has got into careless ways, and no longer lives the first commandment of love for God. Such a one is like an apple with a worm inside it, and he is no longer the guide in the way he ought to be. If the bishops, priests and abbots had lived following the laws determined by the Lord, you would not have this catastrophe that you now see in Rome.

    IF IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT, THE LORD WOULD NOT HAVE TOLERATED THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN POPE PAUL VI COULD PRETEND TO REIGN IN HIS NAME.

    This state of affairs, which moreover has spread outwards from the Vatican, is the work of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. But if, everywhere in the world, millions of faithful had united through religious exercises to pray and do penance, and at the same time ask the Lord to bring us out from this situation, Heaven would have prevented, would not have allowed this catastrophe to happen.

    IF THERE HAD BEEN CRUSADES OF PRAYER, ROME WOULD STILL BE ROME.

    I have to say this too: I must say to thousands and thousands of present-day priests that women can become their downfall, and that this would not happen if they were to arm themselves with prayer. If the priests were to take up their breviary and to nourish themselves on the doctrine of the Doctors of the Church, who, as a result of prayer, have such great knowledge of men, things would go differently for them; whereas, if they do not do this, they belong among those thousands and thousands of priests who today are living in mortal sin.

    Thousands of priests are living outside the state of grace, and they no longer say their breviary - just as I myself used to act. If only, at the very least, I had called on my Guardian Angel to help me; but no, I rejected every means which would have allowed me to pull myself together, and in following this way of life, I indeed neglected to teach the young people, and yet I was not nearly as bad as what is happening today with the priests and the young people. This warning should be a. light for the priests who are on the way to perdition.

    Formerly there were still many priests who were watchful, for their own sanctification, but today they have adopted the wide road that is, at the same time, the road to perdition. If prayers are not said for them, if penitential souls do not rise to their defense and to obtain graces for them, they are lost. That seems incredible, it is tragic, but I am obliged to tell it the way it is.

    It is all the more tragic because our God is not a God who resembles a “sugar daddy”. He has created laws; these laws are eternal. They must be obeyed, and the faithful should not listen to those in the clergy who advocate change, because it is not the clergy who fix the laws, but the Lord, and His laws remain in force eternally. It is not for nothing that the Lord caused it to be noted in the Gospel that it is better to enter the Kingdom of Heaven blind in one eye, then to have both eyes in Hell.

    It is indeed through his sight that the priest of our times is becoming more and more lost. These days. the priests do not mortify their gaze sufficiently. They receive into their hearts far too many images that are constraints on their interior life. This begins with television, and continues on in the activities of the parish where women are now numerous. Formerly the women in the church used to have their heads covered. In our times, that isn't done any more. Then why turn the altar to face the people? I, Verdi-Garandieu, used to say Mass with my back turned to the people, and even then I was still seduced by women; today's priests with Mass said turned towards the people, have more temptations than ever.

    It is not for nothing that the Lord, in the Gospel, has said that it is better to enter (into the Kingdom) blind in one eye, or with only one hand, or only one foot, than to enter the terrible torment of Hell with both eyes, both hands and both feet. Could the priests believe that the Gospel has lost its value today, and they can change it about to suit their taste? Could they believe that the Lord Jesus spoke only for the men in whose presence He gave His message? In His time, they used to wear long robes.

    It doesn't occur to the priests that perhaps He might have been speaking more for the people of our age, where perdition is being spread more and more through technical means, and where no one is capable of stopping what is happening. It is a burning furnace of perdition that cannot be extinguished by the rain of efforts, to which a certain number of good priests who are struggling here and there, feel themselves compelled.

    The Lord always addresses Himself to the freedom of each individual. Besides, the Bible is there, the Gospel in particular; and also all THE MESSAGES WHICH CONSTANTLY RECALL THE DIRECTIVES WHICH HAVE BEEN DETERMINED BY THE LORD. If people refuse to listen to them, Heaven can do nothing about it, especially if people are amusing themselves by adapting the Gospel to their own taste.

    If all these mercies are thrown to the wind, what can Heaven do about it? How will grace be able to act if holy books are no longer read, or books about the Saints, for example the life of Catherine Emmerich, or that of the Cure of Ars, or even that of Padre Pio who has given a great example to our times. Each of these Saints feels the same love for the same sacrifice, in the same self-denials, through love of others. The penance of these Saints has been acceptable to the Most High.

    He would be just as prepared to accept still more reparations, still more sacrifices, made for the conversion of souls. The Good God would often love people to be capable of saying to Him: “I accept the sufferings You will send me. Give me the grace to bear them for the conversion of this one or that one.” But on the whole, it must be said that when the Lord sends Sufferings, very often the Christians reject them with horror and with all their strength. Man too often does his best to avoid suffering. It should be up to the priests to live according to this way of seeing things and to preach it to the faithful.

    All those who reject suffering and seek only to eliminate it are not living in conformity with the first commandment of God. The best way to conform to the Will of God is to say: “Not my will, but Thine be done!” This uniting oneself to the Agony of Christ would be the best way of honoring the love of God. If suffering was united with acceptance of the Will of God, it would take on a very great value.

    Excruciating as certain sufferings may be, by uniting them with those of Christ, they would be the means both of sanctification and of reparation for the sins of others. I am thinking of all the sufferings which are sometimes inherent in the state of marriage and how they are rejected in the hope that one day, perhaps, one will be able to separate from one's partner, and yet, if they are borne, these sufferings would accomplish great reparations. Thousands and thousands of people would be able to suffer thinking of others and these sufferings offered up would not be in vain.

    All that is completely forgotten in your Catholic Church of today. Very rarely is it mentioned from the pulpit, and that applies everywhere. The imitation of Jesus Christ and the solicitude for the salvation of one's neighbor are the things that are important. The rest is secondary, and this is what “Love you neighbor as yourself is all about.

    If Christ were to come back into your midst, there would be thousands and thousands of people who would again look on Him as a revolutionary and a madman. All those who are pledged to following Christ today are looked upon as fools. Instead of raising themselves up to the heights, people are going down to the depths, and so many priests are no longer preaching these truths because they are for them a vivid reproach, because they are no longer living by them. If they themselves were to practice virtue, they would be able to ask much more from the people. How can I think that others might want what I do not want myself?

    It is a truly tragic state of affairs in which you are living now in the Catholic Church. That applies from the priests right to the cardinals in Rome. If the priests were to live like Christ and the Apostles, they would be leading souls along a much better-lit and much safer road. As Saint John the Baptist and Jesus preached in their time, they must be converted and do penance.

    So many priests nowadays are fighting against effort and good because they themselves have turned in the direction of evil. They are already on the broad highway which leads to the abyss. This is what the priests should be told straight to the face, but in a manner which respects the ways of psychology and which indicates that one is only concerned about their well-being. It is not a question of telling them that they are bad, but of MAKING USE OF PSYCHOLOGY, to bring them to the point of coming back (to where they should be).

    It is necessary to ask questions in their presence, at all events very discreetly, to find out whether they have stopped praying or not, and to bring them to the understanding that the things of God become clear only through prayer, just as solicitude for the salvation of souls. As for those who are more capable of accepting criticism, one could make use of that with regard to them, and, perhaps, thanks to God, bring them back again. Natures are different. It is necessary to adapt oneself according to what one is faced with, in the same way that Padre Pio used to do.

    Some among the priests are perhaps victims of ignorance, but the majority know very well into what a state of deficiency they have fallen; reminding them of their vocation could perhaps be a way of bringing them back onto the straight road and to the Lord. All, without exception, would lead the souls they have to be concerned with, much better, if they were to enter onto the road of self-denial It is very, very true that I would prefer to remain silent, except that Those from On High (he points upward) are ordering me to reveal and to recall to mind, although I am in Hell, into which I never thought I would fall.

    What sufferings I would undergo, on my knees, for the defense of my flock, if I could come back on earth! I would accept even martyrdom to save my flock, and several times even. I would accept it voluntarily and with the greatest devoutness, if this were the Will of Those from On High (he points upward). My main goal would be first of all to carry out the first commandment, and to seek means of honoring it and making myself worthy of this commandment. I would ask the Good God to enlighten me about His Will concerning me.

    There is a principle that says that, when in doubt, one should choose the way that costs the most. Are the priests and the faithful giving any thought to this principle? It is only a proverb. God did not say it, but it is quite suitable to the situation. Thousands of priests are on the road to perdition because they have chosen the easiest road. Yes, they choose the way of least resistance. This manner of action is not what is pleasing in the eyes of God.

    It is necessary to know, paying heed to the Apostle Saint Paul, how to distinguish between the possible solutions, and to choose the best. It is essential to pray to the Holy Spirit, as Beelzebub, Judas and all the other demons have already said, before me. Everyone must strive to recognize his true vocation, because THE LORD HAS A PRECISE PLAN FOR EACH PERSON. Already highly regarded before the Lord, because of his priestly state, the priest should also present himself before men with a great authority. He must draw near men and make himself esteemed among them because he is truly following the way about which he speaks, which is in line with his vocation.

    The faithful need to see before them someone who gives them example, and not someone who leads them to perdition, or who, at all events, in spite of the fact that he is a priest, lives the way of perdition. There should be a great distance between a priest and a layman. The Most High has always wanted that, because THE PRIEST IS A TREASURE-HOUSE OF BLESSINGS. The priest ought to make people think of this High Priest Who is Jesus Christ, and for this reason, should draw to himself the respect of the faithful. Throughout his life he must remember untiringly, what a great majesty the Divinity represents, and he must believe that we have the duty to adore It and to live It as It commands.

    It is something which should be taught from earliest years. Children, even the very young, must be led into the churches in such a way that, when passing in front of the Tabernacle, they get into the habit of genuflecting with the greatest devotion; they must be helped to adore the Most Blessed Sacrament, by saying prayers such as this one: “Praised and adored be the Most Blessed Sacrament of the Altar.” The children should then be invited to invoke the Holy Angels so that they can help them to praise the Divine Majesty and the grandeur of the Most Holy Trinity in the highest heavens.

    What does a Church stand for which is no longer capable of raising hearts towards the Most Holy Trinity? What does a Church stand for which no longer presents God as being above men in every way, which no longer points out the sublimity of the Most Holy Trinity, which no longer recalls that it is absolutely essential to be pleasing to the Almighty in Heaven? If the priests don't do this any more, at least the parents should be doing it as far as their own children are concerned. One must never cease making it known that God must be adored, even if all around one, the state of souls is very bad and very distressing.

    It should be known that, when suffering is accepted, it is necessary to thank God for the triumph which He will know how to extract for us from this difficulty. The Lord should be thanked on one's knees, for the sufferings that He sends to us in order to make us better and to lead us on the way of virtue. THOSE WHO FLEE FROM DIFFICULTIES AND SUFFERINGS ARE DOOMED TO LOSE VIRTUE. In past centuries, there were always priests who were at the heights of their vocation. But, in our times too, there are some who are living the same way, in very humble circuмstances; because they carry the peace of the Lord in their hearts, they surpass everyone on earth.:'' What use is it if a man gains the universe, but ends up losing his soul?” I, Verdi-Garandieu, have to say that our era is very badly enlightened on this subject. It is in an age, where there is no love of neighbor, that the Church has set about preaching the love of neighbor, exclusively. The true love of neighbor begins with concern for his soul, and not with concern for his body. Isn't it better for men to perish through plague and war and all kinds of suffering, and, by saving their souls, to acquire the glory of God?

    Furthermore, men who live in luxury and earthly pleasures are in great danger of losing their souls. CHARITY OF THE MASONIC TYPE HAS THE SMELL OF DECAY. It is the perdition of so many souls because it is not truly love of neighbor, but comes from hypocrisy. If they (the priests) knew into what perdition they are making their faithful sink, they would hurry away from this kind of talk and would speak completely differently.

    It is obvious that one should help others materially, especially if they are suffering much misery, but it is not the main thing. The main thing is to remain faithful to the Doctrine which one must defend, and not to sell one's soul. To practise love of neighbor is to lead the neighbor onto the straight road. Alas! Thousands of priests, directed by their bishops and cardinals, have imposed on the Church this way of living charity; by doing this, they have altered the shape of this virtue in a manner, which is not at all what God determined it should be.

    This is because TRUE LOVE OF NEIGHBOR IS NEVER PRESENT WITHOUT SOLICITUDE FOR THE SOUL OF THE NEIGHBOR, because making him suffer by telling him and showing him the truth, is also practicing love of neighbor. Later on, he will recognize that this was, indeed, the right medicine.

    The priest, from the height of the pulpit, should, in his language, make use of the stick and very determined words, because justice exists in eternity; and because Hell exists, which they never speak about any more, since they no longer believe in it. They no longer even believe in Heaven in it's supreme reality. If they did believe in it, they would not be leading thousands of people into error, people whom they should be leading towards Heaven.

    What kind of priests are we up against today? I myself did not speak in my time as contemptibly as they do today. They are running towards perdition and their place in Hell is already prepared (the demon shouts this last observation). '

    But what I am saying now, I am saying equally as much for the cardinals, the bishops, the priests, the lay people. If all these people knew the chaotic situation in which they are entangled, they would say a thousand times 'mea culpa' - a thousand times a thousand times. They would take themselves by the scruff of the neck and they would tear out these worms that are eating away their souls. They would not stop tearing these worms out in order to prevent them from spreading everywhere. They should use red-hot pincers to destroy these parasites that are working so much destruction in souls. They should immediately put into practice the first part of the commandment of love, and after that, the proper love of neighbor.

    True love is not manifested only through gifts, because even with these gifts, the neighbor can still be being maintained on the road to Hell. That is what I have been obliged to say, and that is what explains why, for such a long time, I refused to say my name. But Those from On High (he points upward) have forced me to speak, because I have lived this destiny myself; because I myself did not carry out my priesthood as I should have.

    The difficulties of the Sixth Commandment, I must say this, together with luxury, have become the means of perdition for many priests. If they were to recognize this immense tragedy they would sacrifice themselves to the last drop of their blood. They would have an immense sorrow for everything which has happened, and they would go right back to square one. They would call to their rescue all the Saints and Angels, so that they could help them to find the true road again, because in the eternity of Hell the fire is continuous, and the worm eats away at your soul for ever. This immense pain, this horrible tragedy of Hell, lasts for eternity, and I, Verdi-Garandieu, am forced to say these things.”





    A literal text of the revelations made by the demons
    Beelzebub, Judas Iscariot, Akabor, Allida,  and Veroba
    during a series of exorcisms' from 1975 to 1978


    A translation from the French, by Nancy Knowles Smith, of the book
    'Avertissements de l'Au'delà à l’Église Contemporaine – Aveux de l’Enfer’
    by Jean Marty.

    The revelations have also been published in German by Bonaventure Meyer in Switzerland.

    Jean Marty's book in French is available from 'Les Editions Saint Raphael, 31 Ouest, rue King, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada J IH INS.






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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • May we never resist the graces God sends us to avoid damnation!


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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • There are numerous problems with this whole narrative, the first of which is that an exorcist is forbidden by the law of the Church to pay attention to what the devil tells him. To write down the statements of the devil and then publish it as if he were some sort of oracle is contrary to the law of the Church, not to mention common sense.

    I'm skeptical as to whether a human soul is able to possess a human being in this world. Our souls are designed to possess our own bodies, not those of others. Angels don't have this problem.


    And lastly, what the devil is this supposed to mean: "IF IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT, THE LORD WOULD NOT HAVE TOLERATED THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN POPE PAUL VI COULD PRETEND TO REIGN IN HIS NAME."?

    Is this advocating the body-double theory of Paul VI?

    This whole thing gives me the creeps. I'll read the writings of the saints if I want a warning about damnation; not the writings of Satan. ::)

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • There are numerous problems with this whole narrative, the first of which is that an exorcist is forbidden by the law of the Church to pay attention to what the devil tells him. To write down the statements of the devil and then publish it as if he were some sort of oracle is contrary to the law of the Church, not to mention common sense.

    I'm skeptical as to whether a human soul is able to possess a human being in this world. Our souls are designed to possess our own bodies, not those of others. Angels don't have this problem.


    And lastly, what the devil is this supposed to mean: "IF IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT, THE LORD WOULD NOT HAVE TOLERATED THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN POPE PAUL VI COULD PRETEND TO REIGN IN HIS NAME."?

    Is this advocating the body-double theory of Paul VI?

    This whole thing gives me the creeps. I'll read the writings of the saints if I want a warning about damnation; not the writings of Satan. ::)

    I agree with your first paragraph, but the second isn’t correct. Our Lord cast out demons from several people as is testified in the Holy Scriptures.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • Thanks for posting this Charity.
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • I know it's probably not a good thing but I have always had a deep curiosity about
    anything related to extra biblical revelations regarding the antichrist, hell and purgatory.
    I even remember in the days before the internet searching out the non canonical apocraphya 
    books like the apocalypse of St Paul and Peter in the musty library of a Catholic university.
    While the context of this story is intriguing the information imparted by the damned priest seems rather
    redundant and not terribly enlightening. 
    For someone who has spent centuries in hell I would think their warning would be
    a hundred times more urgent and descriptive. 
    It's a bit like various unapproved Marian apparitions, like Medugorje, where the alleged seers describe what they see
    in a very mundane manner. I would think that seeing something from the realms of glory would be so life altering that
    even the least eloquent person would rise to the occasion. 


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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
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  • I know it's probably not a good thing but I have always had a deep curiosity about
    anything related to extra biblical revelations regarding the antichrist, hell and purgatory.
    I even remember in the days before the internet searching out the non canonical apocraphya
    books like the apocalypse of St Paul and Peter in the musty library of a Catholic university.
    While the context of this story is intriguing the information imparted by the damned priest seems rather
    redundant and not terribly enlightening.
    For someone who has spent centuries in hell I would think their warning would be
    a hundred times more urgent and descriptive.
    It's a bit like various unapproved Marian apparitions, like Medugorje, where the alleged seers describe what they see
    in a very mundane manner. I would think that seeing something from the realms of glory would be so life altering that
    even the least eloquent person would rise to the occasion.
    No doubt, you have seen this tale from the damned Annette: https://www.drbo.org/annette.htm
    The Story of Annette, a Soul in Hellnext >
    by unknown
    Download this story in booklet format for printing
    These events took place in Germany. What we have here is a faithful translation from the French. The "Nihil Obstat" and the "Imprimatur" guarantee the text to be free from doctrinal errors. They describe a way of life which is very common in present-day society, but ends in disaster. The Divine Mercy, by allowing these revelations, allows us to prepare for our final end.
    THE STORY
    Claire and Annette were two girls working for a firm in southern Germany. They were not particularly close friends, but simply observed normal everyday courtesies towards each other.
    However, working as they did side by side each day, they naturally got around to exchanging views on life, etc. Claire confessed openly that she was a Christian and she considered it her duty to instruct her colleague and to call her charitably back into line when she treated matters of religion lightly or superficially.
    Thus they spent some time together until Annette married and gave up her job to go and live elsewhere.
    That was in 1937. In the autumn of the same year Claire was spending her holidays beside Lake Garda when, towards the middle of September, her mother wrote from home with the sad news that Annette had been killed in an automobile accident and had been buried the day before.
    Claire was horrified by the news, knowing as she did how little her friend had cared about her religion. Had she been ready to appear before God? What had been the state of her soul at the moment of her unexpected death?
    The next morning Claire heard Mass, offered her Holy Communion for her unfortunate friend and prayed fervently for her soul. But that very night, ten minutes after midnight, the following vision came to her.
    "Claire," said Annette, "don't pray for me. I am damned. I have come to tell you that and to speak to you at length about it, but do not think I am doing it out of friendship. We who are here in this place, we do not love anyone ANYMORE. I am doing what I am because I am forced to. I am acting now as 'a part of that power which always wills evil, yet does good.' To be honest I would like you too to be cast into this place where I am to spend eternity. Do not be surprised that I should say that. Here we all think that way. Our will is irrevocably directed towards evil -- at least what you call 'evil.' Even if we do happen to do something good as I am doing now by letting you know what goes on in HELL, we NEVER DO IT WITH A GOOD INTENTION."
    Annette continues: "Do you remember when we met four years ago in southern Germany? You were twenty-three, and you had already been there six months when I arrived. As I was a newcomer, you sometimes go me out of scrapes, and you put me in touch with good people, whatever 'good' may mean."
    "I used to praise you for your 'love for your neighbor'. How ridiculous! Your good turns were just a matter of pure form; in fact I was already beginning to suspect as much. Here we know of no goodness in anybody."
    "You already know something about my early life, so now I will tell you the rest. If my parents had had their way, I should never have been born. They felt my birth was somehow shameful. My sisters were already fourteen and fifteen when I appeared on the scene. Oh, if only I never had been born!! Why can't I just stop existing now and get away from these torments? No pleasure could compare with that of being able to reduce my being to dust, like a layer of ash that the wind blows away! But I have to go on existing. I have to exist like this, the way I made myself, an existence I wrecked!"
    "My father and mother were still young when they left the country to go and live in the town, but both of them had already stopped going to church, and a good thing too!! They got friendly with other non-churchgoers. They first met in a dance hall, and at the end of six months they 'had to get married.' They brought away just enough religion from the marriage ceremony to take my mother to Sunday Mass maybe twice a year. She never really taught me to pray. The only things that interested her were the day to day material tasks that had to be done, even though we did not have to worry about money."
    "Those words -- 'pray', 'Mass', 'religious instruction', 'Church' -- I find it unspeakably revolting to utter them. I loath it all. I hate people who go to Church. In fact, for that matter, I hate everybody and everything."
    "The fact is that everything is a source of pain for us. Everything we learned before our death, every memory of things we saw or knew is like a cruel flame. And in every one of these memories we see the graces that were offered to us, the graces we SPURNED. OH WHAT AGONY! We don't eat, we don't sleep, we cannot walk upright. We are spiritually in chains, and we look with horror, with 'weeping and gnashing of teeth', on the ruins of our lives. All that is left for us is hate and torment; Do you understand? Here we drink in hate like water, even among ourselves. Above all we hate God, and I will tell you why. The elect, in Heaven, cannot help loving him, because they see Him unveiled in all His dazzling beauty. That gives them indescribable happiness. We know it and that knowledge drives us into a fury. Here on earth, those who know God through creation and Revelations can love Him, but they do not have to. The believer -- and it makes me grind my teeth to say it -- the believer who in his mediation contemplates Christ with His arms outstretched on the Cross will end up loving Him. But the man to whom God comes like a hurricane, a Chastiser, a Righteous Avenger; the man who God has rejected as He did us, that man can only hate Him eternally with all the audacity of his ill-will. Yes, HATE HIM, with all the strength of a freely-made decision to be cut off from Him. We made that decision with one dying breath. Even now we would not wish to change it, nor shall we ever wish to do so."
    "Do you understand now why Hell is eternal? It is because our obstinacy will go on forever."
    "Because I am forced to, I must add that God is merciful, even to us. I say I am 'forced' because, although I am in control of what I tell you, I am still not allowed to lie, as I should like to. I am telling you many things against my will, and I have to hold back the flood of abuse I should like to spew forth. God was merciful in not giving us time to do all the evil that our ill-will would have had us do. Had we done it, it would have added to our faults and so to our punishment. In fact, God either caused us to die young, as I did, or He brought in some other kind of extenuating circuмstances. Even now He shows Himself merciful towards us by not making us go any closer to Him that we are here in this far-off place of Hell. That lessens our torment. Every step closer to God would cause me greater pain than you would feel walking up close to a red hot brazier."
    "You were shocked once when we were out walking and I told you that a few days before my First Communion my father had said to me, 'My dear Annette, do get a pretty dress. All the rest is just a farce.' Because you were shocked I was almost ashamed. Now the whole thing seems laughable."
    "The only sensible thing about the whole business was that children were not admitted to Communion before they were twelve. Well, by that age I was already crazy about worldly pleasures, so I did not worry at all about not taking religion seriously and I did not attach much importance to my First Communion. It makes us furious when we see that nowadays many children of seven go to Communion, and we do all we can to persuade people that at that age their powers of reason are not yet sufficiently developed. They must have time to commit a few MORTAL SINS. Then that white disc won't do as much damage as it would if their souls were still living by faith, hope, and charity -- BAH! what a thought -- that they received at baptism. If you remember, I was already thinking along those lines when I was on earth."
    "I have already mentioned my father. He often used to fight with my mother. I did not say much to you about it because I was ashamed. How ridiculous, to be ashamed of something evil!! It is all the same to us in this place."
    "My parents no longer even slept in the same room. I was in with my mother, and my father had the room next door, so that he could come in as late as he liked. He used to drink heavily, and he was squandering all of our money on alcohol. My sisters both went out to work because they said they needed the money, and my mother took a job to bring something in as well."
    "During the last year of his life my father often used to beat my mother when she would not let him have any money. On the other hand, he was always kind to me. One day, I told you about this, and you were shocked at my capriciousness (come to that, was there anything about me that did not shock you?). Anyhow, one day my father bought me a pair of shoes, and I made him take them back at least twice because the style and the heels were not up-to-date enough for me."
    "The night my father had the stroke that killed him something happened to me that I did not dare tell you about for fear you would take it the wrong way. But now you have to know about it. It is important because it was then that I was first attacked by the spirit that torments me now."
    "I was asleep in the bedroom with my mother. I could tell from her deep breathing that she was sound asleep. Suddenly I heard someone calling my name. A voice I did not know was saying, 'What will happen if your father dies?'"
    "Since he had been treating my mother so badly, I had stopped loving my father -- in fact from that time on I did not love anyone anymore. I was just fond of a few people who cared about me. Outright love, a love that does not expect any reward, only exists in souls that are in the state of grace, and mine certainly was not."
    "I did not know who was asking me this strange question, so I just said, 'But he isn't going to die!'"
    "There was silence for a while then I heard the same question again. Again I snapped back, 'He is NOT GOING TO DIE!!'"
    "There was silence. Then a third time the voice asked me, 'What will happen if your father dies?' I began to think of how my father often came home drunk, shouting at my mother and beating her. I remember how he had humiliated us in front of our friends and neighbors. I got angry and blurted out, 'That will be just his hard luck!' After that there was silence."
    "In the morning, when my mother wanted to go in and tidy up my father's room she found the door locked. Around midday they forced the door open and found my father's body lying half-dressed on the bed. He must have had some sort of accident while he was going to fetch beer from the cellar, and he had been in bad health for a long time."
    "You and Martha persuaded me to join the young people's association. I never hid the fact that I considered the talks given by the organizers as pretty parochial sort of stuff, but I liked the games. As you know I became one of the leaders straight away, which was typical of me. I liked the outings as well. I even went as far as going to Confession and Communion occasionally, although I did not have anything to confess. I did not consider thoughts and words were of any importance, and at the time I was not sufficiently corrupted to go in for any really immoral actions."
    "You warned me once, 'Annette, if you do not pray more, you are headed for Hell.' Well, you were right when you said I did not pray much, and when I did it was in a casual sort of way. You were all too right. All of these now burning in Hell were people who did not pray, or did not pray enough. Prayer is the first step towards God, and it is always the decisive step, especially prayer to HER WHO WAS CHRIST'S MOTHER, and whose Name we never speak."
    "Countless souls are torn from the Devil's clutches by the spirit of prayer, souls that would otherwise be bound to fall into his hands as a result of sin."
    "To tell you all this is burning me up with anger; I am only going on because I am forced to."
    "There is nothing easier in this world for a man than to pray, and it is precisely upon prayer that everyone's salvation depends. That is the way God has arranged things. Little by little He gives to everyone who perseveres in prayer so much light and strength that even the most hardened sinner can pick himself up once and for all, even if he is sunk in sin up to his neck!"
    "During the last years of my life I no longer prayed as I should have done, and so I deprived myself of the grace without which no one can be saved. Where we are now, we no longer receive any grace, and even if it were offered, we would scorn it. All the ups and downs of earthly life stop when you get here. You on earth can pass from a state of sin to a state of grace, and then fall back into sin again, often through weakness, but sometimes through malice. But once you die all that comes to an end because it is the instability of earthly life that makes it possible. From the moment of death our state is final and unchangeable."
    "Already on earth, with the passing of the years, these changes in the state of one's soul become rarer and rarer. It is true that up to the moment of death one can always return to God or turn away from Him. But it does happen that the habits a man has followed during his lifetime, all too often, affect his behavior at the point of death. Habit becomes second nature to him and he goes to his grave still following it."
    "That is what happened to me. For years I had been living far from God, and because of that, when I heard the final call of grace, I turned away from Him. What was fatal for me was not that I sinned a lot, but that when I had sinned, I had not the will to pick myself up again."
    "Several times you told me to go and listen to sermons or to read spiritual books, and I usually said I had not the time. And yet, what you said, increased the uncertainty I felt inside, like nothing else."
    "I must admit that by the time I left the young peoples association, I had already learned so much that I could very well have changed my ways. I was ill at ease and unhappy with my way of life. But always something stood between me and conversion."
    "You never suspected what was going on. You thought it would be so easy for me to come back to God."
    "One day you told me, 'Just make a good confession, Annette, and then everything will be alright.' I felt you were right, but the world, the flesh and the Devil already had too firm a hold on me."
    "At that time I had never have believed that the Devil was at work, but now I can assure you that he has an enormous influence on people who are in the state I was in then. Only many prayers, from myself and others, together with sacrifices and sufferings would have been able to tear me from his clutches, and even then it would have been a slow process. There may be few who are openly possessed, but many are inwardly. The Devil cannot take away the free will of those who put themselves in his power, but as a punishment for what you might call their calculated desertion, God permits the Evil One to settle within them."
    "I even hate the Devil, though at the same time I like him because he is out to destroy you people. Yes, I hate him, him and his hangers-on, those spirits that fell with him at the beginning of time. There are millions of them prowling about the earth like swarms of gnats, and you do not even notice them. It is not us, the damned souls, who tempt you. That job is only for the fallen angels."
    "The truth is that each time they bring a soul here it increases their torment, but what limit is there to hate?"
    "I was wandering far from God, yet He followed me. I opened the way for grace by natural acts of charity which I performed quite often, simply because I was naturally inclined to do so."
    "There were times when God drew me towards a church, and then I felt a kind of home-sickness. When my mother was ill and I was looking after her at the same time as doing my job at the office, I was really making a kind of self-sacrifice. Those were the times when God's calls were especially strong."
    "Once when you took me into a hospital chapel during the lunch break something happened which led me to the brink of conversion -- I wept!! But immediately the pleasures of the world flooded back into my mind and overshadowed God's grace. The good seed was choked by the thorns."
    "They often said at the office that religion was just a matter of emotion, so I took that excuse to reject that call of grace as I had all the others."
    "You told me off one day because instead of making a proper genuflection in church, I just did a half-hearted sort of bob. You thought I was just being lazy. You did not even seem to suspect that I had already stopped believing in Christ's presence in the Sacrament. I believe in it now, but only in a natural way, as you believe in a storm when you see the damage it leaves behind. Already I had just made up my own religion to suit myself. I agreed with the others at the office that when you died, your soul went into someone else so that it went on a kind of everlasting pilgrimage. That solved the agonizing question of the 'beyond' and you did not have to worry about it any more."
    "Why did you not remind me of the parable of Dives and Lazarus, where Christ sends the one to Paradise straight after his death, and the other to Hell? Oh, sure, you wouldn't have got anywhere with it, any more than with any of your other pious old maids' stories."
    "Bit by bit I made up my own god -- a god who was properly dressed up to be called god and was sufficiently remote for me not to have any dealings with him. He was a vague sort of god, to be made use of when I needed him. A kind of pantheistic god, if you like, the sort of abstract god who might come in useful for poetry, but who wouldn't have anything to do with my real world. This god had no heaven to reward me with and no hell to punish me. My way of worshipping him was to leave him alone."
    "It is easy to believe what suits you. For years I got on very well with my religion and so I was happy."
    "Only one thing could have shattered my stubbornness -- one lasting and deep sorrow. But it didn't happen. Now do you understand the meaning of saying, 'GOD PUNISHES THOSE HE LOVES.'?"
    "One Sunday in July, the young people's group arranged an outing to somewhere. I would have quite liked to go, but those old-hat talks, those old maids' ways of carrying on, all put me off. Besides, for some time I had been keeping a very different picture from that of the Madonna on the altar of my heart! It was that good-looking Max N, in the shop next door. We had already cracked a joke together a few times. Well, as it happens, that very Sunday he had invited me to go out with him. The girl he had been going out with was ill in the hospital. He had realized I had my eyes on him, though I hadn't then thought of marrying him. He was obviously well off, but he was too nice to all the girls, and up till then I had only wanted a man who did not think of anyone but me. I did not just want to be his wife, I wanted to be the only woman in his life. I was always attracted to well-mannered men, and when we were out together Max went out of his way to be nice -- though you can imagine we did not talk about the pious stuff you and your friends go in for!!"
    "The next day at the office you were telling me off because I had not gone with the rest of you on the outing, and I told you what I had been doing that Sunday. The first thing you asked was 'Did you go to Mass?'. Idiot!! How could I have gone to Mass seeing we had arranged to leave at 6:00 A.M.? And no doubt you remember how I lost my patience and said, 'God doesn't make a fuss about these little things like you and your priests do!!'"
    "But now I have to admit that despite His infinite goodness, God weighs things up much more exactly than all your priests put together."
    "After that first outing with Max, I only went back to the young people's association once more. That was for the Christmas celebrations. There was still something that attracted me to ceremonies of that kind, but at heart I was not one of you anymore."
    "Movies, dances, outings -- it was one thing after the other all the time. Max and I sometimes had rows (disagreements), but I could always get him to make up."
    "I had a lot of trouble with his other girlfriend, who went after him like a mad thing, as soon as she got out of the hospital. That was a bit of luck for me, because my 'noble calm', which was quite the opposite of her behavior, made a big impression on Max, and he ended up choosing me."
    "I had learned how to use words to turn him against her. On the surface I would seem to be saying nice things, but inwardly I would be spitting venom. Feelings like that and that kind of behavior are an excellent preparation for Hell. They are diabolical in the strictest sense of the word."
    "Why am I telling you this? It is to explain how I cut myself off, once and for all, from God. Oh, it was not yet at that stage where Max and I would become very 'intimate' in our relationship. I knew I would have gone down in his estimation, if I had let myself go all the way too soon, and that knowledge made me hold back, but deep down I was ready to do anything, if I thought it would further my aims, because I was out to get Max at any cost. I would have given absolutely anything to have him."
    "In the meantime we were slowly learning to love each other. We both had valuable personal qualities, which we were learning to appreciate in each other. I was clever, capable, good company, and at least in the last months before we married, I was his only girlfriend."
    "My desertion of God consisted in this: that I made an idol of a human creature. That kind of thing can only happen when you love someone of the opposite sex with a love which remains bound by earthly considerations. It is this kind of unbalanced love that transfixes you, obsesses you and finally poisons you. My 'worship' of Max was really becoming a kind of religion for me. That was the time when, at the office, I started saying everything bad I could think of about churches and priests and rosary-jabbering and all that kind of tom-foolery."
    "You tried to defend it all, more or less subtly. You obviously did not realize that, deep down, I was not so bothered with insulting those things as with finding something to bolster up my conscience and find some justification for my desertion of God."
    "Yes, the fact was that I had rebelled against God. You did not understand. You thought I was still a Catholic, and I wanted people to think I was. I even went as far as paying my tithes -- I told myself a bit of insurance could not do me any harm."
    "Sometimes your reactions struck home, but they did not have any lasting effect on me. I had made up my mind you were wrong. It was this strained relationship that made neither of us sorry to say 'goodbye' when I left to get married."
    "Before the wedding I went to Confession and Communion once more, as was required. My husband thought the same way as I did about that -- why should we be made to go through those formalities? Still we did go through with it like everyone else. You people would call a Communion like that 'unworthy'. Well, after that 'unworthy' Communion my conscience was a lot cleared. In any case, I never went to Communion again."
    "By and large we were very happy in our married life. We agreed about everything, including the fact that we did not want the responsibility of having children. At a stretch my husband might have wanted to have just one, but in the end, I manage to get even that idea out of his mind. I was far more concerned with clothes, fancy furniture, meeting friends, going out, taking trips in the car and other pleasures. The year between my marriage and my sudden death was a year of sheer pleasure for me."
    "Every Sunday we went out in the car, or else we went to visit my husband's parents, who lived just as superficially as we did."
    "At heart of course I was not happy, even though I put on a smiling face for the world. I liked to believe that death, which I naturally thought was many years away, would be the end of everything, but all that time, there was something gnawing away inside me."
    "Once when I was a child, I heard a priest say in a sermon that God rewards us for every good work we perform, and that when He cannot reward us in the life to come, He does it on earth. That is very true. Out of the blue I inherited some money from my auth 'Lotte', and at the same time my husband started earning a very good salary, so I was able to fit out my new home very nicely. By this time, the light of religion had become for me something very distant, a pale light, dim and flickering."
    "The cafes in the towns, and the inns we stayed at, on our travels, certainly did not point us toward God. All the people who went to those places lived like us, getting their pleasures from external things, first and foremost, instead of living a primarily interior life. If we did sometimes visit churches, when we were travelling around on holidays, we only did so for their artistic interest. There was a religious atmosphere emanating from those buildings, especially the medieval ones, but I could neutralize it by making some criticism which seemed to the point at the time. For instance, I could have a go at some lay-brother for making a bit of a mess of showing us around, or for being sloppily dressed, or I would think how scandalous it was that monks who pretended to be holy should sell liqueurs, or perhaps I would think about the endless bell-ringing, calling the people to services, when all the Church was interested in was making money. That is how I turned away from God's grace each time it knocked at the door of soul."
    "I gave free reign to my bad temper, especially on the subject of certain medieval paintings of Hell, in cemeteries and other places, showing the Devil roasting souls over glowing coals while his companions dragged other victims down with their long tails. OH CLAIRE! People might make mistakes in the way they depict Hell, BUT THEY NEVER EXAGGERATE!"
    "I always had my own ideas about the fires of Hell. You remember we were discussing the question once and I struck a match under your nose and said sarcastically, 'Does that smell like Hell?' You put the flame out quickly. WELL, NOBODY PUTS IT OUT HERE."
    "I assure you that the fire, the Bible talks about, is not just the torment of conscience. It is real fire. When He said, 'Depart from Me, ye accursed, into everlasting fire.', He meant it literally -- YES LITERALLY!!"
    "You will say to me, 'How can spirits be affected by material fire?' But on earth, doesn't your soul suffer when you put your fingers in the fire? The soul doesn't actually burn, but what agony your whole being goes through."
    "Likewise, we in this place are spiritually bound to the fire according to our nature and our faculties. The soul is deprived of its natural freedom of action. We cannot think what we should like, nor as we should like."
    "Do not be shocked at what I am telling you. This state means nothing to you, but I am being burned here, without being consumed."
    "Our greatest torment is the certain knowledge that we shall never see God. How can that torment us so much when we were so indifferent about it on earth? As long as a knife is left on the table it does not worry you. You can see it is sharp, but you are not afraid of it. But just let it cut into your flesh and you will be writhing in pain. It is now that we are actually feeling the loss of God, whereas before we only thought about it."
    "Not all souls suffer to the same degree. The more maliciously and systematically a man has sinned, so much the more heavily will the loss of God weigh down upon him."
    "CATHOLICS who are damned suffer more than members of other religions because usually they have been offered and have refused more graces and more enlightenment. The man who had more knowledge in his lifetime suffers more severely that the one who knew less. If one has sinned through malice one suffers more cruelly than if it had been through weakness. But nobody suffers more than he has deserved. Oh, if only that were not true! Then I should have a reason to HATE!"
    "You told me one day that it had been revealed to some saint that nobody goes to Hell without knowing. I laughed, but afterward I reassured myself by saying secretly, 'In that case, if the need arise, I can always do an about-turn.' That is true. Before my sudden end I did not know Hell for what it is. No human being knows it. But I was fully aware that it existed. I said to myself, 'If you die you will go into the life beyond straight as an arrow aimed at God, and you will have to suffer the consequences.' But, as I have already told you, despite such a thought I did not change my ways. Force of habit pushed me on and I let it take control of me. For the older one gets, the stronger the power of habit becomes."
    "This is the way my death came about. A week ago -- a week, that is, as you would reckon time, for from the point of view of the pain I have suffered I could well say I have been burning in Hell for ten years already. However, a week ago, last Sunday, my husband and I went out for what was to be our last drive. It was a beautiful morning, and I was feeling on top of the world. A foreboding sense of happiness came over me and stayed with my all day. On the way home my husband was blinded by the lights of a car coming in the other direction, and our car went out of control."
    "Automatically I uttered the name 'Jesus', but it was just an exclamation, not a prayer."
    "I felt a searing pain in every fiber of my being, though it was nothing compared to what I am suffering now. Then I lost consciousness."
    "How strange it was that on that very morning a persistent thought had been nagging at me for no apparent reason. A voice inside kept saying, 'You could go to Mass once more.' It was as though someone were begging me. But I stifled the notion with a decisive 'NO'. I said to myself, 'You have got to have done with that nonsense once and for all.' Now I have to suffer the consequences of my resolution."
    "You already know what happened after my death, what became of my husband and my mother, and of my body, and the details of the funeral. I know all about it with the natural knowledge we are allowed here. In fact we know everything that happens on earth, but only in a dim and confused manner. It is like that, that I see the place where you are staying now."
    "At the moment of my death I found myself in a misty world, but then suddenly I emerged into an overwhelming blinding light. I was still at the place where my body was lying. It was like being in a theater. The lights go out all of a sudden, the curtain goes up with a terrific noise and you find yourself faced with an unexpected scene. For me that scene was lit up with a horrible light. What I was seeing was the scene of MY WHOLE LIFE!! My soul was shown to me as if I were seeing it in a mirror, with all the graces I had rejected from my youth up until my final 'NO' to God's call. I saw myself like a murderer on trial being confronted in court with his victim's dead body."
    "Would I repent ?? NEVER !!!"
    "Was I ashamed ?? NOT THAT EITHER !!!"
    "Of course, I could no longer bear to feel upon me the eyes of the God I had finally rejected. All that was left for me was to flee from His presence. Just as Cain fled from the body of Abel, all my soul could do was to flee from that vision of horrors."
    "AND THAT WAS MY PARTICULAR JUDGMENT. THE INVISIBLE JUDGE PRONOUNCED SENTENCE: 'DEPART FROM ME !!!'"
    "And then my soul, smothered in sulphur, hurled itself like a shadow into everlasting torment"
    (Note by the French translator: We could point out that most of the statements made by this damned soul are identical with the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas in the Summa Theologiae.)+++ "
    CLAIRE'S CONCLUSION
    When the Angelus rang, the next morning, still deeply moved by that terrible night, I got up and hurried downstairs to the chapel. My heart was pounding wildly. The people from the hospice who were kneeling around me looked at me in astonishment. I expect they were thinking that perhaps I had come downstairs too fast and upset myself. But one good lady from Budapest had watched me more carefully, and after Mass she said to me with a smile, "Froirlein, the Lord would have us serve Him in calmness, not agitation." But she soon realized that there was something else at the root of my trouble, and she went on talking to me. And as she went on with her kindly advice, I was thinking to myself, "Only God is enough for me!! YES, HE ALONE MUST BE MY PORTION IN THIS LIFE AND IN THE NEXT. One day I hope to possess him in Heaven, whatever sacrifices it may cost me on earth. BUT PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME NOT GO TO HELL!!!"
     

    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #7 on: November 25, 2022, 04:33:10 AM »
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  • This whole thing gives me the creeps. I'll read the writings of the saints if I want a warning about damnation; not the writings of Satan. ::)
    I am totally on board with you on this. I only read the first 6 or 8 paragraphs and skimmed the rest, but it seems to me, and I do not remember where I heard this, that the words God, Jesus, Catholic, Holy, names of saints etc., are never said by the damned because to do so increases their sufferings and pains exponentially. 

    The whole thing makes no sense because the souls in hell strive to get everyone else into hell, not preach warnings to others so as to avoid hell and go to heaven, which they will forever be deprived of themselves.

    Exorcisms or visions are always about descriptions of the tortures and sufferings, the souls of the damned never preach as if from the pulpit in an effort to save souls! It goes against everything we know about hell, the devils and their tactics. I'm with Yeti, the whole thing is creepy.    
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #8 on: November 25, 2022, 07:50:53 AM »
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  • Even though it’s fiction, Marley’s ghost is in pain & chains and he warns Scrooge to repent.

    (I have seen movies but never read the book which is unusual for me. I wonder if there is an edition written in its original version. )

    The other stories are scary too.  They are meant if anything to warn us all to repent for our sins and grow in our faith. 




    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #9 on: November 25, 2022, 09:35:08 AM »
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  • I agree with your first paragraph, but the second isn’t correct. Our Lord cast out demons from several people as is testified in the Holy Scriptures.
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    Oh, I certainly believe in demonic possession. My point was that possessed people are possessed by demons, not by the souls of damned human beings.

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #10 on: November 25, 2022, 11:59:50 AM »
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  • I don't really understand why this demon priest would be trying to help others.  Typically the damned are filled with hatred and wish others to be damned as well.


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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #11 on: November 25, 2022, 12:25:35 PM »
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  • I am totally on board with you on this. I only read the first 6 or 8 paragraphs and skimmed the rest, but it seems to me, and I do not remember where I heard this, that the words God, Jesus, Catholic, Holy, names of saints etc., are never said by the damned because to do so increases their sufferings and pains exponentially.
    Yes, this is what I found weird as well. That, and the human soul of a priest possessing someone.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #12 on: November 25, 2022, 12:52:03 PM »
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  • Weaker minded souls might take something like this the wrong way, thinking they are able to judge what's true or worthy in order to gain information. Demons can be compelled to tell the truth, but even the elect can be fooled. The saints didn't even know when visions were from heaven or hell and encouraged people to disregard spiritual manifestations and not use such information for some kind of gain. It appears to be an interesting story, perhaps even true. I didn't read it (just the comments afterward) to avoid manipulation within the wording.      

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #13 on: November 25, 2022, 01:10:15 PM »
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  • And lastly, what the devil is this supposed to mean: "IF IT HAD BEEN LIKE THAT, THE LORD WOULD NOT HAVE TOLERATED THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN POPE PAUL VI COULD PRETEND TO REIGN IN HIS NAME."?

    I'm digging around a little bit, and there seem to be a whole series of these pushing the Paul VI double theory.  If you recall, that theory was also at the heart of the Palmarian movement as well as of Bayside.  For the most part, this comes across to me as fiction in support of that narrative, and if it did come from diabolical sources, it's an attempt to mislead and misdirect from the reality of what's going on.  None of these sources actually impugn the NOM, and encourage reamining attached to the Conciliar Church, focusing on the various "abuses", particularly Communion in the hand.



    Montini's "high holiness"?  Credible allegations regarding both his sodomy and his ratting out of clerics behind the Iron Curtain both predate his insertion into the papal office.

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    Re: Warning from a damned priest to priests!
    « Reply #14 on: November 25, 2022, 01:18:41 PM »
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  • Yes, this is what I found weird as well. That, and the human soul of a priest possessing someone.

    "Judas" is a common one that seems to recur from these accounts.