Author Topic: Waiting on husband and child until I'm rich (Read 1848 times)

Matthew · « **on:** April 02, 2008, 11:19:30 PM »

From CNNMoney

Denise Janus: Ready for rainy day
Manufacturing engineer, 25, Detroit, Mich.

I'm a mechanical engineer for an automotive company and my financial situation is fantastic. I just bought a house and a full-size truck in Michigan, where I plan to stay rooted. (Gas for my truck is at least $300 a month which doesn't make me want to run out and buy a tiny car.)

I made sure the degree I got would pay a salary that met my needs and I worked hard to secure a great job. I worked through college so I only have a quarter of my school loan left to pay back. When I bought my house I understood the terms of the loan and what I could comfortably afford.

I'm waiting to get married and have children because I believe that one of the ways to be a responsible and productive adult in this great nation is to save money and have a secure financial foundation before I bring a husband and children into my life.

I made it a priority early on to have three months expenses saved just in case -- and I'm working on making that a year's expenses. All I can say is it's a rainy day and some people got caught without an umbrella.

Adesto · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:09:20 AM »

Considering all the "America sliding into economic crisis" posts we have on here, I have to say "Good one" on her, although of course God is the one who decides when a chap who she'd want to marry enters her life etc.

I think the Church has always taught that debt is a possible obstacle to marriage, so "stockpiling" some funds beforehand is a good idea.

Plus, she's not engaged or anything, so it's not a case of putting off a fixed marriage, but a hypothetical one.

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:20:49 AM »

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I'm waiting to get married and have children because I believe that one of the ways to be a responsible and productive adult in this great nation is to save money and have a secure financial foundation before I bring a husband and children into my life.

There's something wrong with the part in bold. At least the way the world interprets that phrase.

If everyone waited until they were "financially set" there would be a lot less children brought into the world.

Although it's commendable to be responsible with money, and establish oneself before finding a spouse (for the man -- the woman doesn't necessarily have to be established), the part in bold is the "world's commandment" that so many "yuppies" or "protestant suburbanites" follow -- they wait, and wait, and wait until they're "ready" to have kids. Why not just have kids and see what your culinary/financial/shopping creativity is capable of?

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2008, 11:21:28 PM »

marasmius · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2008, 06:40:08 AM »

Proverbs Chapter 31 verses 10:31

 10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

 11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

 12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

 13She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

 14She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

 15She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

 16She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

 17She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

 18She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

 19She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

 20She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

 21She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

 22She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

 23Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

 24She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

 25Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

 26She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

 27She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

 28Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

 29Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

 30Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.

 31Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

Adesto · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2008, 05:28:48 PM »

Quote from: Hermit

What is the man for? I assumed one benefit of marriage for the woman was not having to deal with such boring matters as building a "secure financial foundation".

In a society where one wage will cover all expenses, it would be a benefit indeed. But in the UK (and I suspect in the US) the economic situation is such that unless the gent is a high flyer, a home with one income will struggle, especially if they have several kids (as I imagine those opposed to women working will expect anyways). Its not an evil to be poor as such, as the Holy Family themselves were poor, but given that you guys seem to expect a woman not to work after she's married, and especially not to work after she has kids, and she's expected to have several if not many kids (nothing wrong with that, but it is the trad expectation) and that she may in be in debt after college etc, the best thing seems to me for her to pay off her debts, save some and not be a financial burden on her husband!

I'm all for stay-at-home moms. I think it's a great vocation. And making sure a (hypothetical in this ladies case) mom CAN stay at home and look after her kids rather than have to work in order to keep pay the bills can be secured by working off debts and saving BEFORE marriage, to avoid having to do so out of necessity afterwards.

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2008, 02:42:23 PM »

I think one other reason why it ends up now often that both spouses work is due to the fact that we buy so much stuff we really don't need or that may not be edifying to us.

As Matthew has pointed out before, it would save a lot of money if the children were not exposed to television and not given the incentive to want name brand stuff.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2008, 03:06:46 PM »

Quote from: Adesto

In a society where one wage will cover all expenses, it would be a benefit indeed. But in the UK (and I suspect in the US) the economic situation is such that unless the gent is a high flyer, a home with one income will struggle, especially if they have several kids (as I imagine those opposed to women working will expect anyways). Its not an evil to be poor as such, as the Holy Family themselves were poor, but given that you guys seem to expect a woman not to work after she's married, and especially not to work after she has kids, and she's expected to have several if not many kids (nothing wrong with that, but it is the trad expectation) and that she may in be in debt after college etc, the best thing seems to me for her to pay off her debts, save some and not be a financial burden on her husband!

I agree that it would be good for a woman not to be a financial burden on her (new) husband, but I think better than waiting years to pay off school debt, it would be better not to incur it in the first place. I have a college degree and had some school debt as a result--probably much less than most. Now, thousands of dollars later, I stay at home with my kids and don't really get much use out of the higher education that I paid for. Of course, if a woman is of the mindset than both spouses should work and gets the degree to do so, it's somewhat unlikely that she'd marry a man who thinks otherwise.

I did think, before I was married, that living off of one income would be difficult, but now I couldn't disagree more as it's proven much easier than expected. There's nothing we want which we have to do without due to financial limits. (Well, other than a fall-out shelter and 100 acres of wooded land.

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Matthew · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2008, 06:10:40 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

I did think, before I was married, that living off of one income would be difficult, but now I couldn't disagree more as it's proven much easier than expected. There's nothing we want which we have to do without due to financial limits. (Well, other than a fall-out shelter and 100 acres of wooded land. )

Just to clarify lest you should think I'm rich, it has more to do with lack of wants than greatness of means.

But, it's still true nonetheless.

Matthew

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2008, 12:38:45 AM »

Quote from: Kephapaulos

Bump! :roll-laugh2:

What's going on, Keph?? :plant: I've read that line for the 3rd time.

http://www.cathinfo.com/bb/index.php?a=topic&t=4530

http://www.cathinfo.com/bb/index.php?a=topic&t=3001&f=8&min=15&num=15

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 20, 2010, 03:18:52 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

From CNNMoney

Denise Janus: Ready for rainy day
Manufacturing engineer, 25, Detroit, Mich.

I'm a mechanical engineer for an automotive company and my financial situation is fantastic. I just bought a house and a full-size truck in Michigan, where I plan to stay rooted. (Gas for my truck is at least $300 a month which doesn't make me want to run out and buy a tiny car.)

I made sure the degree I got would pay a salary that met my needs and I worked hard to secure a great job. I worked through college so I only have a quarter of my school loan left to pay back. When I bought my house I understood the terms of the loan and what I could comfortably afford.

I'm waiting to get married and have children because I believe that one of the ways to be a responsible and productive adult in this great nation is to save money and have a secure financial foundation before I bring a husband and children into my life.

I made it a priority early on to have three months expenses saved just in case -- and I'm working on making that a year's expenses. All I can say is it's a rainy day and some people got caught without an umbrella.

I thought this was a man. :confused1: I had to go back and read the persons name again.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #11 on:** October 20, 2010, 04:03:26 PM »

Quote from: CathMomof7

Quote from: Matthew
From CNNMoney

Denise Janus: Ready for rainy day
Manufacturing engineer, 25, Detroit, Mich.

I'm a mechanical engineer for an automotive company and my financial situation is fantastic. I just bought a house and a full-size truck in Michigan, where I plan to stay rooted. (Gas for my truck is at least $300 a month which doesn't make me want to run out and buy a tiny car.)

I made sure the degree I got would pay a salary that met my needs and I worked hard to secure a great job. I worked through college so I only have a quarter of my school loan left to pay back. When I bought my house I understood the terms of the loan and what I could comfortably afford.

I'm waiting to get married and have children because I believe that one of the ways to be a responsible and productive adult in this great nation is to save money and have a secure financial foundation before I bring a husband and children into my life.

I made it a priority early on to have three months expenses saved just in case -- and I'm working on making that a year's expenses. All I can say is it's a rainy day and some people got caught without an umbrella.

I thought this was a man. :confused1: I had to go back and read the persons name again.

That's what makes it shameful... this piece is written by a woman and not a man! And it appears that because she has built up herself (after the manner of a man) she's more than likely going to marry an irresponsible stay at home husband, and more than likely she's going to be so involved with her work she's not going to take any time out to bear the children because she's out busy making the necessary money to put food on the table, something her husband is supposed to be doing!!

Author Topic: Waiting on husband and child until I&#039;m rich (Read 1848 times)

Author Topic: Waiting on husband and child until I'm rich (Read 1848 times)