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Offline elliseliz

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Veiling outside of mass
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:34:07 AM »
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    • Hi! I heard from my CCD teacher in 3rd grade that many women veil when walking past a church to be repsectful, but I can’t find any sources of that being an actual practice. Was this ever a thing?
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 02:36:51 AM »
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    • I was instructed in my religion classes (run by Dominicans) that everyone should make the Sign of the Cross whenever passing a Catholic Church and that we should also make the Sign of the Cross whenever an ambulance siren sounds to ask God to save the sick.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 03:14:36 AM »
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    • We were taught by the nuns (back in the 50's) not to pass by a church without popping in to pay a visit to Jesus, no matter how short. If the doors of the church were closed we were to bless ourselves and say a prayer as we walked past. 

    I have never heard of women veiling. In fact, it would be quite impractical as you don't usually carry a veil unless you are expecting to attend a church service.   
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 10:04:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on October 12, 2018, 03:14:36 AM
    We were taught by the nuns (back in the 50's) not to pass by a church without popping in to pay a visit to Jesus, no matter how short. If the doors of the church were closed we were to bless ourselves and say a prayer as we walked past.

    I have never heard of women veiling. In fact, it would be quite impractical as you don't usually carry a veil unless you are expecting to attend a church service.  
    I always carry a veil in my purse (so I don't need to worry about remembering to bring one to church), so I generally have one with me. But it would not make sense for me to put it on when passing a church.  I put on my veil when I am about to enter Our Lord's presence in the Tabernacle.  

    I hope it is not a sin to be envious of people who were taught by nuns in the 50s.  That is virtually always my reaction to stories like this.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 10:32:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on October 12, 2018, 02:36:51 AM
    I was instructed in my religion classes (run by Dominicans) that everyone should make the Sign of the Cross whenever passing a Catholic Church and that we should also make the Sign of the Cross whenever an ambulance siren sounds to ask God to save the sick.
    I was taught by the School Sisters of Notre Dame the same, and also to make the Sign of the Cross and offer a prayer or ejaculation when passing a funeral procession, a cemetary, hospital or pass a fire truck.
    They stressed the "pray always" habit.
    Today I pray also when the Medivac helicopter flies overhead.
    Never heard of veiling when passing a church.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 10:42:07 AM »
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    • You might want to check with your CCD teacher again. Perhaps you misunderstood. We make the sign of the cross when passing a church but we veil when we go in. 
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 10:53:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on October 12, 2018, 10:04:56 AM
    I hope it is not a sin to be envious of people who were taught by nuns in the 50s.  That is virtually always my reaction to stories like this.

    Most of the 50s nuns were Modernists waiting to come out as the Hippie Nuns of the 60s strutting about in short skirts.  And they're likely more dangerous because they could lull you to sleep due to their outward piety into think that they're orthodox and perfectly Catholic.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 11:00:35 AM »
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    • I was always taught to make the sign of a cross, and  say a prayer. I don’t think there is anything wrong with veiling if that’s what you want to do. As long as you show respect, and acknowledge God.. 


    I was always told horror stories about learning from nuns. That they beat children, and humiliated them. When I grew up and went to the modern mass last there was a “sister” there that wore bright red heels, and lipstick. She was about 70 too... very odd sight to see.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 10:52:27 PM »
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    • St. Paul said that women should veil all the time.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #9 on: October 13, 2018, 09:17:20 AM »
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    • This thread was different from what I expected. It seemed to be focused on "should I veil when I pass a church" (short answer: no).

    I thought it was a thread about "veiling" or the practice in some cultures of wearing a veil basically 24/7, like the Muslims and other groups.

    If that was the topic, I was going to say that

    A) there's nothing wrong with it
    B) it is consonant with promoting proper gender roles, and certainly doesn't go against them
    C) but it's not part of our culture. Culture isn't about right and wrong or sin. 
    Who is right, the Italians who prefer wine, or the Germans who prefer beer? Both and neither.

    So I would advise American women NOT to practice "veiling" (defined as wearing a veil at all times) because you're going to be taken for a Muslim, because it's not part of the culture in America, not even in a certain group (Catholics or Traditional Catholics) in America.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 12:11:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on October 12, 2018, 02:36:51 AM
    I was instructed in my religion classes (run by Dominicans) that everyone should make the Sign of the Cross whenever passing a Catholic Church and that we should also make the Sign of the Cross whenever an ambulance siren sounds to ask God to save the sick.
    This was a near universal practice in Ireland too a generation or two ago, with the addition of making the Sign of the Cross when you pass a statue of Our Lord or Our Lady. I don't know how common those are in America, but over here you pass statues of Our Lady fairly regularly, most towns and villages have one or two little shrines with a statue of Our Lady as relics of a more pious time in Irish history.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 12:55:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 13, 2018, 09:17:20 AM
    This thread was different from what I expected. It seemed to be focused on "should I veil when I pass a church" (short answer: no).

    I thought it was a thread about "veiling" or the practice in some cultures of wearing a veil basically 24/7, like the Muslims and other groups.

    If that was the topic, I was going to say that

    A) there's nothing wrong with it
    B) it is consonant with promoting proper gender roles, and certainly doesn't go against them
    C) but it's not part of our culture. Culture isn't about right and wrong or sin.
    Who is right, the Italians who prefer wine, or the Germans who prefer beer? Both and neither.

    So I would advise American women NOT to practice "veiling" (defined as wearing a veil at all times) because you're going to be taken for a Muslim, because it's not part of the culture in America, not even in a certain group (Catholics or Traditional Catholics) in America.

    Yes, I did too.

    I actually love head covering in general. There is such a thing as Christian head covering 24/7, just not very common in this country. I see it mostly in Eastern Orthodox and Protestant women, not much Catholics.

    Oftentimes I wear a head scarf. Not all the time, but sometimes I do and I love it!. My favorites are the Russian ones. They are so colorful and pretty. In colder temperatures, they are great also because they are warm and comfy.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 02:42:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 13, 2018, 09:17:20 AM
    This thread was different from what I expected. It seemed to be focused on "should I veil when I pass a church" (short answer: no).

    I thought it was a thread about "veiling" or the practice in some cultures of wearing a veil basically 24/7, like the Muslims and other groups.

    If that was the topic, I was going to say that

    A) there's nothing wrong with it
    B) it is consonant with promoting proper gender roles, and certainly doesn't go against them
    C) but it's not part of our culture. Culture isn't about right and wrong or sin.
    Who is right, the Italians who prefer wine, or the Germans who prefer beer? Both and neither.

    So I would advise American women NOT to practice "veiling" (defined as wearing a veil at all times) because you're going to be taken for a Muslim, because it's not part of the culture in America, not even in a certain group (Catholics or Traditional Catholics) in America.
    There are many "veils" that a Catholic woman could wear that will definitely NOT give the mistaken impression that she is a Muslim.  But, I agree, that women in Western societies should not veil in any way that would give that impression.

    The Italians are not wrong, but the Germans a right.

    (Most wines sold in America give me a headache--I didn't have that problem when I visited Italy and found that wine was generally served at meals everywhere.)
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #13 on: October 13, 2018, 05:57:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 12, 2018, 10:53:21 AM
    Most of the 50s nuns were Modernists waiting to come out as the Hippie Nuns of the 60s strutting about in short skirts.  And they're likely more dangerous because they could lull you to sleep due to their outward piety into think that they're orthodox and perfectly Catholic.
    There must have been something seriously wrong with them, because that is exactly what happened.
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    Re: Veiling outside of mass
    « Reply #14 on: October 13, 2018, 06:01:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on October 12, 2018, 10:52:27 PM
    St. Paul said that women should veil all the time.
    It was the traditional practice in most countries which became Christian for hundreds of years and I think that many of us feel called to cover 24/7
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