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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2023, 05:57:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on November 09, 2023, 08:10:30 PM
    I’m starting to believe that Bergoglio may be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Everyone knows that flaming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs run Jesuit leadership, so either Bergoglio is being blackmailed, or he is a homo himself.
    Starting?

    Furthermore, since when does Bergoglio need to be blackmailed to do his thing?
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #16 on: November 10, 2023, 06:32:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 09, 2023, 07:20:52 PM
    Excuse me?  That may be the stupidest snark I have read in quite some time. Is it not the case that Catholic Baptisms are predicated on being and staying Catholic?

    Why shouldn't an in-your-face rejection of Catholic doctrine be disqualifying?

    If those sinners are so damn [pun intended] needy of Baptism, they can go to their home faucets for the water, to the internet for the formula, and Tinder for god[less]-parents.

    Yup.

    As recently as 8 years ago, the conciliarists were still rejecting transtesticals:

    https://gloria.tv/post/Yicex6FdfMPn4Lyaqgeds7EJK

    But then came “Tricky Tucho.”
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #17 on: November 10, 2023, 06:39:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on November 09, 2023, 06:24:10 PM
    So? Isn't baptism for sinners?
    Every now and again, you say something that makes me scratch my head. Baptisms are for adults who convert to the Catholic Faith.  How has a transgender converted to the Catholic Faith?  
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #18 on: November 10, 2023, 07:05:48 AM »
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    •  I was baptized as an adult. Repentance was a requirement for the baptism to take place. That was about 25 years ago in an NO church.  I guess things have changed since then.
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #19 on: November 10, 2023, 09:15:41 AM »
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    • It still puzzles me how a Catholic can’t realize that the NO church is not the Catholic Church and it’s head is not the pope of the Catholic Church. 🤔
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #20 on: November 10, 2023, 12:05:42 PM »
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    • "Rome will become the seat of antichrist"  Our Lady of LaSalette   It is all starting to come into focus now.  The Sanhedrin had its Caiaphas, and we have our Francis.  
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #21 on: November 10, 2023, 01:21:36 PM »
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    • It is not Baptism, not a sacrament, it is RCIA, initiation.
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #22 on: November 10, 2023, 04:46:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 09, 2023, 07:20:52 PM
    Is it not the case that Catholic Baptisms are predicated on being and staying Catholic?
    One has to be already Catholic before being baptized? Baptism is not conditional on already being Catholic.
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #23 on: November 10, 2023, 04:52:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on November 10, 2023, 06:39:14 AM
    How has a transgender converted to the Catholic Faith?
    By renouncing his past sins.

    A newly baptized adult could immediately lose sanctifying grace, but that doesn't remove the baptismal character.
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #24 on: November 10, 2023, 04:55:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on November 10, 2023, 04:52:11 PM
    By renouncing his past sins.

    But continuing to live as a different sex than assigned by God?
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #25 on: November 10, 2023, 05:08:11 PM »
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    Deuteronomy 22:5

    A woman shall not be clothed with man's apparel, neither shall a man use woman's apparel: for he that doeth these things is abominable before God.


    If wearing clothes in such a manner is abominable, what can one say in regards to hormone treatment, and surgery?
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #26 on: November 10, 2023, 05:59:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on November 09, 2023, 08:10:30 PM
    I’m starting to believe that Bergoglio may be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Everyone knows that flaming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs run Jesuit leadership, so either Bergoglio is being blackmailed, or he is a homo himself.
    If it quacks like a duck…
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #27 on: November 10, 2023, 06:07:41 PM »
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #28 on: November 10, 2023, 06:12:04 PM »
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    And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. 
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    Re: Vatican: TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized
    « Reply #29 on: November 10, 2023, 07:52:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on November 10, 2023, 04:55:49 PM
    But continuing to live as a different sex than assigned by God?
    Obviously that's a sin, and obviously one can sin after being baptized.

    When I see "TransɛҳuąƖs can be Baptized" I think: Yes, and so can murderers, adulterers, or any other type of sinner.
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