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Offline Bl Alojzije Stepinac

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Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2023, 04:17:48 AM »
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    Anthony of Padua, may I ask if you are a Croatian, or do you have some ancestors that are from Croatia, or Bosnia and Herzegovina?

    I would love to see some of my fellow citizen on this forum. Here situation is not so bad like in France, USA, Germany as regards to liturgical abuse, but there is modernism in other areas. Not just Novus Ordo mass, but whole thing about Medjugorje apparitions. Almost all of my relatives and family still believe in those false apparitions, and goes there. There is so much sacrilege in those concerts which are so simmilar to ones of Hillsong Worship. 
    And bishops are forced to participate in false ecuмenism, especially with those lying heretics, Serbian schismatics that calumniate and falsly accuse cardinal Stepinac. 
    If Stepinac would have lived through Vatican II, and New Mass, I can't know for sure but I believe he would oppose to those destructive changes. President Tito was responsible for massacre of Croatians in 1945. from Bleiburg field, in Slovenia and Croatia there are still being found new pits with massive body count. How would he feel and act if he would see Paul VI. receiving Tito and smiling with him on that famous photo??

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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #16 on: April 08, 2023, 05:21:59 AM »
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    Paul VI. receiving Tito and smiling with him on that famous photo


    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024


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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #17 on: April 08, 2023, 06:05:36 AM »
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    Anthony of Padua, may I ask if you are a Croatian, or do you have some ancestors that are from Croatia, or Bosnia and Herzegovina?

    I would love to see some of my fellow citizen on this forum. Here situation is not so bad like in France, USA, Germany as regards to liturgical abuse, but there is modernism in other areas. Not just Novus Ordo mass, but whole thing about Medjugorje apparitions. Almost all of my relatives and family still believe in those false apparitions, and goes there. There is so much sacrilege in those concerts which are so simmilar to ones of Hillsong Worship.
    And bishops are forced to participate in false ecuмenism, especially with those lying heretics, Serbian schismatics that calumniate and falsly accuse cardinal Stepinac.
    If Stepinac would have lived through Vatican II, and New Mass, I can't know for sure but I believe he would oppose to those destructive changes. President Tito was responsible for massacre of Croatians in 1945. from Bleiburg field, in Slovenia and Croatia there are still being found new pits with massive body count. How would he feel and act if he would see Paul VI. receiving Tito and smiling with him on that famous photo??
    I am Croatian ethnicity but was born in Australia where I currently live. Both parents are Croatian, Father born in Zadar Country Zemunik (he came to Australia when he was older but still 'young'), Mother born in Germany but Croatian background (her parents where moving to Australia when she was born, which is why she was born in Germany).

    It's good to hear that it's not so bad in Croatia, Australia has always been Anglican and maybe freemasonic, though I suppose even Croatian government is freemasons/communists (my father complains about their corruption). I learnt last year about many modern apparitions which seem to be all false, but I'm not sure if my Father is 100% convinced about Medjugorje, though I have mentioned it to him several times. Unfortunately most of my family including my mother don't care about the tradition and many don't even care about religion at all or they are just content with the basic novus ordo stuff...

    I mentioned some of the information in this thread to my father and he said that regarding Bleiburg the numbers were much higher (he said over 600,000) and he already knew about Cardinal Stepinac being a great man and poisoned (and that he didn't want to schism from the Church). Needless to say he's not too happy about how much land was given to the Serbs and how they Serbs have been slowly taking over Herzegovina which he said used to be Red Croatia.

    It's really sad to see how the world lies and covers up the crimes that happened to Croatia, hopefully the truth comes out. Also how has Croatia handled the vaccine stuff? Over here official statistics say over 97% of people aged 16+ have taken 2 doses.

    I have attached some images below so you can see our "official" stats on vaccine rollout.... it's bad.
    1 week after mar 22 they changed the slides. So there is less information in the new ones but still the above should provided enough to know. Of course these are government numbers so they could be lying about it.


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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #18 on: April 12, 2023, 09:42:34 PM »
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  • We must also keep in mind that for all the accusations hurled at Catholic Croatia and the Ustashe, almost nothing is said of the very real atrocities committed by Tito's Yugoslavia. Take for example the massacres of the Adriatic Italians by Tito's partisans, called the Foibe Massacres. Here is an excerpt from Metapedia:


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    The Foibe massacres (Expulsion of Italians and Croats from Istria and Dalmatia) (also called "Italian h0Ɩ0cαųst") were an ethnic cleansing genocide, carried out during and after World War II by Yugoslavian communists against the ethnically Italian population of Istria and Dalmatia on behalf of the new Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

    Many were lucky and were only expelled from their land, but many were also massacred at Foibe. The former coastal houses and related land in Dalmatia and Istria belonging to those of Italian origins on the eastern Adriatic were then simply stolen by settlers & colonists brought there from other parts of Yugoslavia. (This mirrors the murders and expulsions of ethnic Germans from Slav lands in Eastern Europe 1945-48.)

    Both regions formerly were anciently Roman, then Venetian, and then were part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. With the end of World War I, Istria and parts of Dalmatia with large numbers of ethnic Italians, were annexed by the Kingdom of Italy following the secret agreements made with the Western Allies during the war. Today these regions are divided between Slovenia, Croatia, and Montenegro.



    The exact numbers of the dead aren't known, and estimates range from 3,000-20,000 lives.

    What's even more disturbing about this whole affair are the number of articles by socialists and their sympathizers on the web downplaying the tragedy and even saying that they all "deserved" it because they were probably fascists.

    Here is an Italian language video about this event:




    Atrocities quite similar to this were also definitely carried out by the Tito regime on Croatians after the war, I just don't know about them.

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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #19 on: April 14, 2023, 09:13:43 AM »
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    @AnthonyPadua

    Your father is right about government, ask him about UDBA, almost all of ministers, premiers, and presidents from 90s until now have a communist, partisan family background, about 95 %.
    Croatians have become resignated, lukewarm, main false demoratic christian party HDZ is ruling the Croatia with Serbian party SDSS and some national minorities. They have a right to be voted for on two lists, and seats in Sabor (our parliament) are reserved for them even if they got less than 1 %. It's insane and unheard of in all the EU!
    Don't belive the propaganda, real estimate about percentage that took 2 doses are about 70 % or less. Sadly, my family members took the shot, some just 2 others 3. My dad and aunt had some side effects, my wife had more serious from the first dose. Her uncle died suddenly from Covid-19, he was hospitalised and put on ventilator. She was scared and her mother also convinced her, I was against from the start. I live in small town, there weren't much pressures for wearing the masks in store, bakery, but it was in ambulance of course and in church. I was obeying for 1-2 months, but started doing reasearch on alt media and changed my mind. I think in a few years there will be real pandemic of Marburg virus or something else more deadly. We are living through chastitesments, maybe war in Ukraine spreads to Balkan. It was prophecied that Russia will conquer Rome. Only time will tell....


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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #20 on: April 14, 2023, 06:34:44 PM »
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  • I am of one-quarter Croatian ancestry. The rest is British (English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh).

    My paternal grandmother was the youngest of her family who immigrated to the United States in spring 1914 (yes, just in time to avoid the Great War!) and the only one of five siblings to be born in these USA. She had cousins who remained in Croatia and Austria and served variously in the Wehrmacht (Heer), the Waffen SS, and the Domobrani during the Great Anti-Bolshevik Crusade. Those who survived the war were banned from emigrating to these USA. So much for ratlines for common, enlisted soldiers!

    Having heard the family stories and knowing the truth of 1941-45, I respect the choices and actions of these distant relations. History has been written by the Jєωιѕн victors of the War. Whereas, my relatives sought to defend our European, Catholic civilisation against the Beast of Judaeo-Masonry and Marxist-Leninist-Stalinism.
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    Re: Ustashe and the Catholic Church
    « Reply #21 on: April 15, 2023, 01:24:07 AM »
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    My opinion is that Hitler was also funded and pushed by Khazar, zionist Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as Stallin, Chruchill, and other. Maybe first they wanted to Hitler be victorious, but he started to be independant financially. In nαzι Germany, as in NDH (short for eng. "Independant state of Croatia"), the state had it's own national bank for creating and controling money flow. Maybe I'm wrong.
    My ancestors mainly served in regular army, some of them have been Ustashe. My village was against partisans, communists. But I don't blame all of them who joined especially later, to yugoslavian communists. Many of them were forced, threatened to kill their families, Ustashe were losing the war. Some later realized that they were tricked, like some bishops after Vatican II council.

    Surely, Jєωιѕн Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ has control over media (at least mainstream, and many false right), educations, finance, well over 1 or even 2 centuries. 

    I am of one-quarter Croatian ancestry. The rest is British (English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh).

    My paternal grandmother was the youngest of her family who immigrated to the United States in spring 1914 (yes, just in time to avoid the Great War!) and the only one of five siblings to be born in these USA. She had cousins who remained in Croatia and Austria and served variously in the Wehrmacht (Heer), the Waffen SS, and the Domobrani during the Great Anti-Bolshevik Crusade. Those who survived the war were banned from emigrating to these USA. So much for ratlines for common, enlisted soldiers!

    Having heard the family stories and knowing the truth of 1941-45, I respect the choices and actions of these distant relations. History has been written by the Jєωιѕн victors of the War. Whereas, my relatives sought to defend our European, Catholic civilisation against the Beast of Judaeo-Masonry and Marxist-Leninist-Stalinism.