How sad:

From: https://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/us-birthrate-continues-to-plummet-led-by-hispanics/


US birthrate continues to plummet, led by Hispanics


"“Millenials,” that generation born between maybe 1980 and 2000?, is rapidly coming of age.  This group of special snowflakes who got trophies for showing up and were always told how awesomely awesome they all were, each and every one!, is having great deal of difficulty even bothering to conceive.  Birthrates for millenial-group whites are nearing European levels, if projections hold – less than 1.4 live births per woman per lifetime.  Even Hispanics, long the only cohort keeping the US fertility rate near replacement levels, are plummeting – faster, in fact, than any other group.  Apparently these Catholic immigrants aren’t staying Catholic very long once they reach this country:

 In a new report, the Urban Institute think tank writes that in 2012, there were only 948 births per 1,000 women in their 20s, “by far the slowest pace of any generation of young women in U.S. history.” In 2007, the rate was 1,118 births per 1,000. The decline in births was largest among Hispanic women, at 26 percent, followed by black women, at 14 percent, and an 11 percent drop for white women…….

…….For white women, though, the story was very different: “81 percent of the decrease in fertility is attributable to declining marriage rates.” (Granted, white women were less likely to be single mothers to begin with.) All the single ladies of countless Internet essays are, indeed, staying unhitched—and they’re not having kids as a result.

The report authors say they don’t know whether Millennial women will eventually catch up in childbearing like women who lived through past recessions did.

The data is really stunning. A 15% drop in fertility rate in just 5 years?!?  I don’t know if that’s happened anytime since the implosion of traditional culture called the 1960s/early 70s.  And Latinas dropped my over 25%!!

The entire Western socialist welfare state, including the American one, is a ponzi scheme predicated on constantly increasing population.  Not just increasing population, but each succeeding generation must be larger than its predecessor, and by no small amount.  Otherwise, we’ll all have to pay sky-high taxes, productivity will plummet, and prolonged economic recession/depression a la France since 1975 will set in.  Well……here we are.  The millenial generation is  15-20 million smaller than the preceding “Gen X,” and whatever Madison Ave decides to call those following the millenials will be even smaller.  But we already know this.

No country and no culture has survived an extended period of voluntary low birthrates.  These periods have spelled the death knell for civilizations in ancient Greece, Rome, China, India, and elsewhere.  When a culture runs so out of energy and care for the future that it can’t even bother to reproduce itself, it’s not long for the world.  I don’t know how long this culture of ours has left, but eventually something’s going to break, and break big – government, economy, culture – or, most likely, all three.

Don’t mean to be a downer but this is really unprecedented.  Yes machines and technology can make us some of the difference but not on the scale we’re seeing, where the number of little humans being born today around the world is literally 1/4-1/3 what is was 50 years ago. Unprecedented doesn’t even begin to describe it.

So…….pick your poison, persecution or collapse.  Either way, not so fun.
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Wife in the parish hall

"...and then we'll start a family..." using the usual worldly term for going into "reproduction mode".

What's the bet that they'll have trouble turning the tap on, after 4 years of elective infertility!

Thank you for sharing the stats. I was unaware of the drop in that ethnic group. The US Catholic Bishops seek to cater to that group and social justice causes. Guess they aren't reaching them.

It's sad, but this last Great Recession most families never recovered, and the coming of age group never got their chance at starting a future with so much joblessness, low wages, school debt and sky high healthcare costs.

Millennial generation is supposedly the largest group going forward and the future is bleak in every way.

Thank you for this very informative post.

I must say, it seems to jibe with reality.

At my SSPX chapel, I don't know of any large Hispanic families.

For example, I know of one devout (Trad) Hispanic couple. One of their children has several of her own, but one of the boys married 4 years ago and he still is not a father. I overheard his wife in the parish hall, "...and then we'll start a family..." using the usual worldly term for going into "reproduction mode". I almost spit out my lemonade when I heard that.

It would seem that whatever Hispanics have going for them (Catholic culture, family values, etc.) they seem to suffer severely from the American protestant peer pressure, to whatever extent they are SUCCESSFUL in integrating with American culture.

I would venture so far to say that these "hispanic" families are actually 100% American, probably speak little to no Spanish, and have probably never visited their motherland.  As someone who has worked exclusively with immigrants (apart from having lived in most of their countries), I can say that there is an extreme difference between immigrant families and chicano families (or whatever).  Considering chicanos to be mexican is like saying that I am German or your friend who claims to be Italian just because she has a last name ending with a vowel.  The truth is that I know little to nothing about German culture and the same can apply to the other cases mentioned, with some exceptions.

My point is that these "hispanic" families you refer to are American.

Also, speaking from experience, I can state that if the information was available to be collected in a poll, then this means most often that the subjects data was collected from legal residents or citizens.  Data for polls is never collected from non-docuмented or illegal immigrants, and for that reason would not reflect a true number, considering that the number of "illegal" residents is higher in some areas than the number of legal hispanic residents, Minnesota for example.

Matthew,

Since this is something you overheard in a Traditional Catholic setting, do you think you should consult the priest?  In the advice you gave me, you recommended staying out of it and that is good advice because a work environment is secular and using birth control is normal behavior for non-Catholics and worldlings.  

In your case, is this something that you would consider discussing with the priest?  

Or is it likely that the priest would correct you for being a gossip?  After all, you may have misunderstood her - I surely hope that was the case but you probably are correct in your assessment.

It was many years ago, and yes it's none of my business. If I knew them better, I might say something to them. But I would like to think I have an ounce of wisdom in me, enough to know that "advice unasked for is often scorned."

And if they're willing to go against Church teaching, why would they listen to some random Catholic layman anyhow? Is keeping Matthew happy really worth giving up their plans/career/vacations/easy life/whatever is motivating her to use birth control? Let's just say I seriously doubt it.

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Matthew,

Since this is something you overheard in a Traditional Catholic setting, do you think you should consult the priest?  In the advice you gave me, you recommended staying out of it and that is good advice because a work environment is secular and using birth control is normal behavior for non-Catholics and worldlings.  

In your case, is this something that you would consider discussing with the priest?  

Or is it likely that the priest would correct you for being a gossip?  After all, you may have misunderstood her - I surely hope that was the case but you probably are correct in your assessment.

It was many years ago, and yes it's none of my business. If I knew them better, I might say something to them. But I would like to think I have an ounce of wisdom in me, enough to know that "advice unasked for is often scorned."

And if they're willing to go against Church teaching, why would they listen to some random Catholic layman anyhow? Is keeping Matthew happy really worth giving up their plans/career/vacations/easy life/whatever is motivating her to use birth control? Let's just say I seriously doubt it.

Good point.  

It is disappointing that the moral environment at an SSPX chapel would be so degraded as to give a woman the green light in even expressing such a sentiment.  Also, at the St Louis Chapel, the only conversations I've ever overheard among the youngsters is whether they are to enter the religious life or marriage.  

At St Mary's Assumption, Fr. Kurtz openly declared during a sermon that, I am quoting him "If you are using birth control, you will go to Hell."