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Unity is important - even among Trad Catholics
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2014, 04:06:27 PM »
Prophecy of St Francis of Assisi:


"There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God."

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Unity is important - even among Trad Catholics
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2014, 04:11:58 PM »
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Prophecy of St Francis of Assisi:


"There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God."

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2748949/posts



St. Francis was indeed a prophet. Such has come to pass!


Unity is important - even among Trad Catholics
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2014, 04:21:23 PM »
...and the need to unite in love is all the more urgent given this prophecy:


"Woe ! Woe ! Woe to the last century !
Here is what God wanted to show me in his Light. I began looking in the light of God, the century which must begin in 1800; I saw by this light that judgement wasn't there, and that it wouldn't be the last century. I considered, thanks to the same light, the century of 1900, until the end, to see positively if it would be the last. Our Lord made me know, and at the same time made me doubt, if it would be at the end of the century of 1900, or in that of 2000. But what I saw, it is that if the judgment arrived in the century of 1900, it would come only towards the end, and that if the world exceeds this century, the first two decades of the century of 2000 will not pass without the judgment intervening, as I saw it in the light of God."

(Vie et Révélations de Sœur de la Nativité, Charles Genet, book IV, pp. 125-126)



In fact Matthew, at some stage, you might consider adding some facility on CI in anticipation of the following scenario and our need to mutually support each other:


In those days, Faith will fall very low, and it will be preserved in some places only, in a few cottages and in a few families which God has protected from disasters and wars.”  - St Anne Catherine Emmerich



The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts very new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatize from the Faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism. ...Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible; hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.”- Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, pp. 88-90


God bless!

Unity is important - even among Trad Catholics
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2014, 04:25:02 PM »
....and part of the same prophecy of St Francis:


"At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death..... in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer."

Unity is important - even among Trad Catholics
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2014, 05:18:19 PM »
 :dancing-banana:
Basically, I agree with Matthew.  Refusing to hear Mass at a certain chapel or to associate with other Catholics based upon Church dogma is keeping the Faith.  Becoming a hermit because some weird guy wears a monocle is ridiculous!  I don't care if the priest wears a monocle!  (Are there any?). Nasty, mean-spirited, judgmental people, unpleasant as they may be, don't harm my spiritual health.  A grumpy, cantankerous, short-tempered priest has no power to destroy my Faith.  I do not care if someone is a sedevacantist, sedeplenist, prays only in Latin, says Holy Spirit, etc.  My Faith is not based upon others' opinions of non-doctrinal matters.  There are some questions for which the correct answers are hidden in this life.  To dissociate myself from fellow Catholics based upon MY answers is nothing but pride masquerading as piety.  It is exactly as the incalcuable number of Protestants who reject fellow heretics based upon holding to the "correct" version of the "end times." Some are staunchly amillenialists, others believe in "the Rapture," still others, a pretribulational Rapture, post-tribulational Rapture, 1000 year earthly reign of Christ, no earthly reign, and so on...The fact is, they're ALL wrong!  I'm afraid we trads are the Catholic equivalent.  
My guideline is simply this.  I separate myself when it comes down to principles and dogma as determined by God and the Church of Tradition.  Abberation from the Faith by those under whose authority I am places my faith in danger.  All else is extranneous.
Conclusion, if a priest announces it's "okay to be gαy," I'm gone.  If the priest is a Feenyite, I disagree, but I stay if he'll have me.  If the priest wears a monocle, he's just wierd.  If a fellow trad holds to any of these, again, the only deal-breaker is the first.