Author Topic: unemployed men are a waste of space (Read 13072 times)

ggreg · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2013, 12:12:14 PM »

Quote from: McFiggly

. I'm not using it as a crutch, at least not entirely. I need God.

So practice mortification and earn your money from the sweat of your brow, even if it is just mental sweat, just like God instructs men to do in the first book of the bible.

Since you don't want to work and you know you should work, then you have a perfect opportunity to mortify yourself, please God, earn a crust and feel much better about yourself.

Sit down, work out a realistic plan and act on it. You are much cleverer than the average person so you should be able to crack it.

soulguard · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2013, 12:23:24 PM »

So the materialistic civilization has gotten to you too ggreg?

My worth is defined by a secular authority? By secular society?
This is not a communist economy, everyone has to lobby private companies to get employment. It is a game of chance. There are those who are unlikely to be accepted by a company, because of criminal record or disability.
Would someone with a disability be a waste of space? I am supposed to have a disability, but I am in education, if I don't go to class my payment is deducted. Is there chance of a job for me? No. Further education? Yes. Job after that? Not a chance. I am a waste of space then, a good Catholic piece of trash who is living as a parasite upon atheistic progressive civilization. Why oh why did Catholics build this civilization to begin with if it would soon term us as refuse material. Well at least I got cigarettes, that makes it better somehow. I will go back to my fantasies of all the "wastes of space" banding together and throwing off the yoke of the "usefuls". Our numbers grow by the millions every day, one day, my day will come, and the usefuls wont be so useful in the end.

Matto · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2013, 12:56:02 PM »

What about unemployed people who do not work for medical reasons? Are they a waste of space too?

ggreg · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:04:34 PM »

If society is so evil then stop taking its money and go and live in a tent in the wilds like you keep promising too.

I am sure there are parts of Europe, Wales or Scotland you could attempt this and get away with it for a while. You would give up or freeze to death before they found you I suspect.

Disabled people get benefits. Unless they are profoundly disabled they can often work. What stops a disabled person selling on ebay for example? If they can pack items into envelopes and post them, then that is about as physical as it gets.

People with criminal records usually did crimes to get those records. Punishments in the Uk are pretty light weight. For minor crimes like tax evasion many employers don't care. In the used car business they would probably see a criminal record as a bonus.

Nothing stops a former criminal starting a business unless his crime was for fraud and he was specifically barred from being a company director.

Sorry, but I have been all over the world and seen how genuinely poor, poor people REALLY are and the reality is that life on welfare in Britain is a very cushy existence in comparison to that. Over a billion people live like that through a quirk of fate.

Cantarella · « **Reply #19 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:06:23 PM »

Quote from: Matto

What about unemployed people who do not work for medical reasons? Are they a waste of space too?

There are legitimate medical reasons that would disable a person to work. However, I notice a trend here in America that almost everything has become a medical reason to fill for disability and justify their plain SLOTH. A considerable amount of people in warfare in this country just abuse the system.

I agree with Greg that people in America (he was referring to England) but here applies as well, have no clue what real poverty is like and take everything for granted.

ggreg · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:07:18 PM »

Quote from: Matto

What about unemployed people who do not work for medical reasons? Are they a waste of space too?

Depends on the reasons doesn't it.

There are lots of fakers and exaggerators with "bad backs". But people claiming sickness benefits are a lot smaller in number than healthy people who are long term unemployed.

I was pretty specific to say that Americans who spoke perfectly articulate and native English, and naturally British people likewise, are darned useless if they cannot compete with foreigners who arrive in Britain and America with broken English and yet manage to find work and gainful employment.

I know a Filipina and a Bulgarian woman who each started their own cleaning business and pull in a healthy amount of money cleaning people's houses and businesses. If they can do that with their disjointed English and no start-up capital or connections then why can't a native?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #21 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:45:48 PM »

A Traditional Catholic should never, EVER, engage in "job snobbery". Honest work is honest work.

Ggreg is a wise worldling. He really does focus on the world a little too much. However, having said that, his advice is very good advice and most people would benefit if they read his posts without reading too much into it. Ggreg isn't speaking about the status of someone's soul but he is highlighting a deficiency. Men must either be employed in some manner, or seeking employment, or preparing themselves for employment. The employment could be self-employed or a company man. The only criteria being that it be honest work and not something that would be a cause of temptation.

Men who are unemployed should really take a good hard look at themselves and make sure that they are doing the right thing. An examination of conscience is always in order. If someone is so-called unemployable, they need to honestly tackle their deficiencies to them become employable. It's not hard, but it does take work. And time too.

None of this is in effect for the ladies out there.

soulguard · « **Reply #22 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:55:05 PM »

Youre all nothing but a bunch of elitist classist snobs with no empathy for your fellow man and no right to claim the name Catholic.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #23 on:** December 09, 2013, 01:57:59 PM »

The movies of the Bowery Boys are a pretty good inspiration regarding this topic. Slip and Satch were almost always starting some kind of business and often from a backroom at Louie's Sweet Shop.

Frances · « **Reply #24 on:** December 09, 2013, 02:14:01 PM »

:dancing-banana:O, yeah! Since I'm a lady, it's okay for me to go on disability and do nothing but take up space? I COULD do that if I wanted. It has been suggested to me more than once. But then the govt. tells me where I can live, and can't live, what food I can eat, that I can't own anything of value...On second thought, no thanks! I'll willingly put in 12-16 hour days for the privilege of being the boss of the 95 or so free hours per week. In Britain they PAY unemployed college graduates merely for seeking employment? Really?

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2013, 03:14:03 PM »

I don't understand how people can't get it.

You turn 15 or 16, and you work. That's all. Want something better? Train for it. Make more money. Direct yourself to something you like better than the first job.

That is life. No work? No income.

soulguard · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2013, 03:22:02 PM »

Elitist classist menchevik snobs.

Go spend your life working for the upkeep of a godless society.
It suits you.

Frances · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2013, 03:45:20 PM »

:whistleblower:
Name-calling? It won't do any good. I'm a teacher in a nonpublic school. I work long hours because I have to in order to make ends meet. I don't make even a quarter of what the teachers across the street in the public school are making for six to seven hour days. I also work side jobs, anything from sewing to house and office cleaning. This is not to maintain the status quo of a Godless society, but because I consider it a calling, a vocation for one who, like St. Paul, finds herself born "out of time," exciting times as we are nearing the Triumph of Our Lady.
:dancing-banana:

Cantarella · « **Reply #28 on:** December 09, 2013, 03:55:38 PM »

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

I don't understand how people can't get it.

You turn 15 or 16, and you work. That's all. Want something better? Train for it. Make more money. Direct yourself to something you like better than the first job.

That is life. No work? No income.

Agreed!

Why someone would down thumb this post, I wonder?

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 09, 2013, 06:00:43 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

If society is so evil then stop taking its money and go and live in a tent in the wilds like you keep promising too.

I can't wait for the colored peoples to take over the West, simply for the fact that they will demand for you to step down from your business ("whitey doesn't need to own anything!) and be forced to shut up and then you will be forced to join the working-class of your own race (and they will despise you as well and kick you to the curb).