I don't think the TV itself is bad, anymore than the gun. What it can do is bad, but we wouldn't be able to enjoy certain things (home movies, Catholic films, now Catholic talks with Vimeo and YouTube that are even linked here on CI, and some carefully-vetted programming from History or (I think it's) Discovery. (Note: carefully vetted) without it.

That said, while I won't argue the NFL is any sort of upstanding anything, it's historically been a source of enjoyment for our family, including our extended families. I prefer NCAA football on Saturdays, though I'm all too aware of what nominal success leads to (and the lowering of academic standards to get strangely-pumped-up recruits).

But okay, this rumor/controversy with the Packer's qb Aaron Rodgers being a Sodomite, though I'll note he denies it, was shocking to me. I've done some research this weekend, and there IS in fact a man AR has regularly attended awards shows with. I am unclear if they lived together or not — I didn't research that closely after I came upon a picture that has me convinced enough. It's a tweetpic from the account of the man who is the "boyfriend". It is a picture of him wearing Aaron Rodgers Superbowl ring.  

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THE ring. The metal everyone in the NFL goes for, and for which you cheer your favorites on to earn... (Here's a research link with the pictures, linked with FAIR WARNING that the site is hardly Trad-friendly.)

I am beyond caring if Rodgers is Sodomite, or whatever. What man (unless he is destitute, or suffering brain damage) would let someone else, even his wife, wear his Superbowl ring, much less a gαy male whose company he keeps? And yet there is the twitpic of a known-Sodomite male who has "dated" Rodgers (gone to black-tie events with him), posting a picture on his Twitter account depicting him wearing AR's ring. Really, that's all I needed to know.

NOW my husband wants me to go watch the game. I mentioned my concerns, but he says AR has denied the rumors, and let's just enjoy the sport.

My bigger concern is that "the club" (NFL?) knew this, and it's all a farce: all of the NFL. That this wasn't just another NFL "open secret" which only the naive such as myself wasn't aware, but that the NFL, like Disney and NBC and other conglomerates, are part of what Neil Obstat wants to call "The Devil's Tabernacle."

Again, I don't think the TV itself is "evil"; we've watched many an edifying thing on it. (Though little of it is new, obviously. DVDs and recorded sermons, specials, etc. "The Conflict" gets me everytime. We also have to use it for music history and other instruction, as well). But I do think the entertainment industry, including much of what's on the internet (eg, AOL), could be called "The Devil's Tabernacle." The lines have been blurred such that if you go after the TV appliance, you'd also have to go after computers and phones. Just some ...truth as it seems to me, anyway.

I'm more than a little pressed that the NFL might be included in "entertainment." I really like sports and support them for kids (better than sitting around watching videos all day). And I'm aware that, like anything, sports are hardly "pure", even at the youth level. But this NFL farce is a problem for me. Everyone knew AR was a Soddie, didn't they, and kept it one big, fat secret. TV announcers, NFL bigwigs, the "industry" (who OWNS the NFL, anyway?). It goes well beyond Aaron Rodgers, I think. (Maybe not the sodomy, but the "entertainment" aspect of "the League".)

During NFL games they often show scantily dressed women singing songs, especially before the game starts and they sometimes show cheerleaders who are dressed immodestly during the games. Also, if you watch a New Orleans Saints game they often show fans who blasphemously dress as priests and bishops drinking beer during the games and dancing around like fools. If Aaron Rodgers is a sodomite, that is a shame because he is one of the biggest stars in the game. It is good that he denies it instead of announcing it to the world and spreading sodomite propaganda.

I'd agree it's good, if only boyfriend didn't tweet that "silence has an expiration date" picture, too. I could imagine books and stuff coming from this. :/

No, as strange as it sounds, besides cheerleaders, we rarely see the sidelines stuff except painted up people. (And kids.) Maybe we're desensitized, but most games we see are in a cold climate too. (Packers/SF played in ice cold with blankets; I watched after all, to not cause tension with family.) We pause commercials without thinking, and skip pre-game and halftime shows, too. But we see the badness at live games (even h.s.).

Again, I know it's not an "innocent" sport; even without the comares (ladies), you've got steroids usage, racketeering, drugs probably. Lots of rape accusations (that don't see the light of day); murders (that sometimes do get on the news). There's ugliness. But it is all fake?

Because the thing is, AR hasn't been married, just associated with this girl he's known since grade school, who lives elsewhere (Cali?), and whose sisters seem to be into "entertainment" (one does "The Bachelor" show: she's "looked for love" a few times now, according to site I read).

But AR lived with this guy (I did read further after posting), who was his "publicist", and someone who he supposedly used to tell if people were judgmental against "regular folks" or not. They went on dates in color-coordinated suits; and even with his "beard", AR went many places with this known-Sodomite, but has rarely been seen his his g/f of 20+ years?

His teammates would know. I guess they didn't know with ncaaf Manti Te'o (ND, now Chargers) that he was being "catfished", but by pros, many pros have said they would know if someone were Soddie.

Supposedly, this AR thing is an open secret in Wisconsin, as well; I know little of Wisconsin (have relatives there), or its "famous people", and what's okay or not there.

But yeah, I'd say AR need to marry his "girl" and pay whatever shush money there is to this old roommate. I'm not sure how I could support things if that came out.

I doubt it primarily for one reason: He went to Berkeley. If he was gαy there is absolutely no reason he wouldn't have come out while he was in college there.

He would have been heavily encouraged to do so there.

I think it's appalling that the NFL is a nonprofit organization too.

The NFL itself is a nonprofit organization, and doesn't have much revenue each year.  Each individual team, however, is a for-profit organization, and is organized as such.