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Offline oldmom

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« on: February 23, 2015, 09:51:01 AM »
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  • This is a difficult subject for me and I need some guidance. We are a church going family and do our best to be good catholics and follow the bible.
    When my daughter started highschool she became involved with a group of bisɛҳuąƖ girls. It was a struggle for me to accepts this behavior and the girls she was friends with. She went to a few gαy parades without my knowledge. We had many heated arguments over this issue. She is now 20 and in a relationship with a guy.
    My issue is how to handle this with a good conscience. When I see ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, my heart hurts for them. I judge without thinking. I often think what would I be feeling if my daughter didn't go straight. I'm trying so hard to not automatically judge people. Jesus told us to love unconditionally. I want to, but how. I really need some input and answers.


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    « Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 10:34:28 AM »
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  • Start with a search on this forum re: sodomy. It is NOT 'ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity'.  

    Don't use politically correct language because it changes your faith - as evident by your liberal attitude toward one of the most disgusting and offensive of sins.  You, and now your daughter, wallow in sympathy for the most heinous of sinners; thus, enabling their sin and it's contamination of the whole of humanity on a breathtaking scale.  How many souls are lost because Catholics do not know their faith!

    If you are Catholic, you know it's one of the 4 sins that "cries out to Heaven for vengeance."  Learn why.


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    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 11:49:08 AM »
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  • Quote from: oldmom
    This is a difficult subject for me and I need some guidance. We are a church going family and do our best to be good catholics and follow the bible.
    When my daughter started highschool she became involved with a group of bisɛҳuąƖ girls. It was a struggle for me to accepts this behavior and the girls she was friends with. She went to a few gαy parades without my knowledge. We had many heated arguments over this issue. She is now 20 and in a relationship with a guy.
    My issue is how to handle this with a good conscience. When I see ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, my heart hurts for them. I judge without thinking. I often think what would I be feeling if my daughter didn't go straight. I'm trying so hard to not automatically judge people. Jesus told us to love unconditionally. I want to, but how. I really need some input and answers.


    You've been poisoned by decades of Modernist heresies and moral indifferentism preached from the pulpits at the overwhelming majority of Novus Ordo Masses.

    Sodomy is an evil so grave Our Lord told St. Catherine of Siena that even the devils flee from it. God destroyed cities on account of this sin. Pope St. Pius V ordered all sodomites in his juridiction to be put to death.

    Learn to differntiate objective matters from subjective matters. We are forbidden from judging subjective matters (a person's intentions, the state of his soul, the outcome of his final judgment, etc.) because these are known only to God and are for God alone to judge. But we are permitted - even required - to judge objective matters... and sodomy is objectively a mortal sin against nature that cries to heaven for vengeance, and is on par with murder. Would you balk at "judging" a serial killer, or wring your hands about "unconditional love" if said killer wanted to hold sway over your daughter? Of course not. You'd do what you could to protect your daughter's life. So treat this matter with as much urgency; more in fact, since the enemy who endangers the soul is more to be feared than the enemy who merely threatens the body.

    The mere fact that you use the Sod agenda's own terminology ("gαy pride," "bisɛҳuąƖ," etc) and you express such a wealth of false compassion for these evil degenerates indicates that you have already lain down your defences and given up the fight without firing a shot. Why was your daughter permitted to consort with these degenrates? And where was the father in all this? As head of the household, he will have to answer for the state of his daughter's soul someday over and above anyone else. And if he is not in the picture, then that terrible responsibility will fall squarely on your shoulders, OP.

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    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 12:40:55 PM »
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  • Hello and I will give this to God in prayer as I do not know the answer to this except prayer.   I will pray for God to guide all of you to have peace within your family unit and beyond.  Note my mother left me at 3 years old , she never returned, and, my dad taught to me not judge her as only God is allowed to judge his children.  She asked me how I could forgive her for leaving me when I was in my 30's and I told her I am not your judge only God is your judge.  She was Roman Catholic.   She accepted my answer and she looked relieved.  God Bless you...  Sandy B

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    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 12:49:53 PM »
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    Hello and I will give this to God in prayer as I do not know the answer to this except prayer.   I will pray for God to guide all of you to have peace within your family unit and beyond.  Note my mother left me at 3 years old , she never returned, and, my dad taught to me not judge her as only God is allowed to judge his children.  She asked me how I could forgive her for leaving me when I was in my 30's and I told her I am not your judge only God is your judge.  She was Roman Catholic.   She accepted my answer and she looked relieved.  God Bless you...  Sandy B


    Sandy, in all charity, you SHOULD know the answer if you are Catholic. Horror of the sin of sodomy is Catholic 101.  Please re-read Ladislaus' comment.

    However, your offer of prayers for the OP is laudable and necessary.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 01:10:12 PM »
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  • Matthew - Please note this atheist's poisonous advice to the OP and take the appropriate action.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 01:19:19 PM »
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    id rather you not treat e differently because i believe in different things from you. That is rude


    This is a Traditional Catholic forum, friend - not CAF. All opinions are not treated equally here... and the opinion of someone who has made a conscious act of the will and intellect to reject his own natural knowledge of Almighty God is perhaps the most worthless of all.

    As to my "rudeness," protection of souls from corrupting influence takes precedence over sociel niceties any day of the week.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 01:32:23 PM »
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  • No, your opinions are bad because they are anti-Catholic and will lead you to hell.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 01:36:31 PM »
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  • so you are saying that my opinion is bad because they arent what you agree with?

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    « Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 01:40:43 PM »
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  • As I already said, your opinions are bad because they are anti-Catholic.  
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 01:47:42 PM »
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    you should learn to be more open minded

    If you believe you have the truth it is stupid to be open-minded. Open-mindedness is for those without core beliefs.
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    « Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 01:50:58 PM »
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    i have core beliefs they are just different from yours. Im bisɛҳuąƖ and i would hate to be treated differently for something that has nothing to do with you anyway

    If you have core beliefs then you are not really open-minded.
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    « Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 01:56:36 PM »
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    you are very much missing the point. My core beliefs are not the same as yours. [/quote
    I understand. For example, you believe sodomy is something good while I think it is one of the worst sins and that it will send you to hell forever.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 02:03:01 PM »
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    the definition of sodomy is any sɛҳuąƖ act that is not for the purpose of procreation. Its not just ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity as you seem to believe

    I know that. Many heterosɛҳuąƖs also commit sodomy as well and it is also a grave sin.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 02:06:03 PM »
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    is it still a grave sin if the person doesnt believe in sin?

    Yes. God is still offended. Though sometimes the guilt may be less, but God only knows how guilty each sinner is.
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