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Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
« on: June 29, 2020, 11:29:09 AM »
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  • Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana law on abortion clinic restrictions
    The court ruled 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts siding with the court's liberal justices.
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    The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that a Louisiana law requiring that individuals who perform abortions at clinics have admitting privileges in a nearby hospital is unconstitutional, as it places an undue burden on women seeking abortions.

    The court ruled 5-4 in the case, June Medical Services LLC v. Russo, with Chief Justice John Roberts once again casting a deciding vote by siding with the court's liberal justices.

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    The opinion, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, noted that the Louisiana law is "almost word-for-word identical" to a Texas law the court ruled was unconstitutional in 2016's Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt. A District Court had rejected the Louisiana law because of that precedent, but a court of appeals ruled otherwise.

    "We have examined the extensive record carefully and conclude that it supports the District Court’s findings of fact," Breyer wrote. "Those findings mirror those made in Whole Woman’s Health in every relevant respect and require the same result. We consequently hold that the Louisiana statute is unconstitutional."

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    Breyer noted that the District Court found that the law “offers no significant health benefit” and that “conditions on admitting privileges common to hospitals throughout the State have made and will continue to make it impossible for abortion providers to obtain conforming privileges for reasons that have nothing to do with the State’s asserted interests in promoting women’s health and safety.”

    Ultimately, the majority felt that this case was virtually the same as the 2016 case, and ruled accordingly.

    "This case is similar to, nearly identical with, Whole Woman’s Health," Breyer wrote. "And the law must consequently reach a similar conclusion."

    Roberts had dissented in the 2016 case and said in a concurring opinion that while he still believes that the past case was wrongly decided, he was ruling with the majority in the present case due to court precedent.

    "The legal doctrine of stare decisis requires us, absent special circumstances, to treat like cases alike," Roberts wrote. "The Louisiana law imposes a burden on access to abortion just as severe as that imposed by the Texas law, for the same reasons. Therefore Louisiana’s law cannot stand under our precedents."

    The ruling was met with fierce criticism from conservatives.

    In dissent, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote, "Today a majority of the Court perpetuates its ill-founded abortion jurisprudence by enjoining a perfectly legitimate state law and doing so without jurisdiction."

    Thomas claimed that those performing abortions do not have standing to challenge laws on the basis that they restrict the ability to get an abortion, because it is not their rights that are at issue, but their potential patients'.

    Thomas went on to flatly state that "abortion precedents are grievously wrong and should be overruled."

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    Jeanne Mancini, president of March for Life, said her organization was "appalled" by the Supreme Court's decision.

    "The legislation at issue in June Medical Services v. Russo was designed to safeguard women’s health and safety, which the abortion business in Louisiana egregiously sidelined for the sake of profit," Mancini said in a statement. "No abortion facility should receive a free pass to provide substandard care."

    When the case was being argued in front of the Supreme Court, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., spoke at a in which he appeared to threaten Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh -- conservatives who were appointed by President Trump.

    "I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price!" Schumer warned. "You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions."

    Gorsuch and Kavanaugh both opposed Monday's decision, but with Roberts siding with the liberal justices, they had no effect on the outcome.

    After the court's decision was handed down, Schumer tweeted an observation about how the court has been ruling as of late.

    "The Supreme Court’s entering Buffalo Springfield territory: 'There’s something happening here,'" he wrote.


    This is just the latest closely watched court case where Roberts has cast a critical vote, and angered conservatives.

    The court recently ruled, in a 5-4 decision penned by Roberts, that President Trump's reversal of former President Barack Obama’s DACA executive order –­ that shielded immigrants who came to the country illegally as children from deportation –­ was in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act (APA), which sets out rulemaking procedures for federal agencies.

    It was Roberts who, by siding with the liberal wing and reinterpreting an individual mandate as a tax, allowed ObamaCare to be found constitutional in 2012. Last year, he joined with the wing again in shutting down Trump’s efforts to add a citizenship question to the census.

    Monday's ruling, meanwhile, could impact legal and political efforts to roll back broader abortion rights.

    The Louisiana statute is just one of dozens of new sweeping state-level abortion restrictions nationwide, which activists on both sides say could push the Supreme Court to revisit its nearly five-decade Roe v. Wade precedent that guarantees a women's right to the medical procedure.

    It also comes as abortion has once again become a major campaign issue.

    Trump in January became the first sitting president to address anti-abortion March for Life rally in person, telling activists "I'm fighting for you, and we're fighting for those who have no voice, and we'll win, because we know how to win."

    Democrats running for the White House promised throughout the primary season to nominate justices to the Supreme Court that will respect abortion rights.

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    "Abortion and the court has been a political issue for quite a long time," said Paul Smith, a Georgetown Law Center professor who has also argued several cases before the Supreme Court. "If you go back and look at the candidate debates, it seems to be an issue that the conservative side is more motivated by, or has been historically. That may change this year."
    Fox News' Adam Shaw and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 11:32:28 AM »
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  • Lots of neocons think that Roberts is being blackmailed.  Perhaps he has frequent flyer miles on Epstein Air (for visits to the island).

    Or else he's just a liberal scumbag.  His biography says he want to Catholic school, but does not say for sure that he was raised Catholic (not that I could find).  But a big red light should have been that one of his earliest legal missions was pro-bono work in favor of sodomite civil rights, leading to one of the significant early landmark decisions in that area.  Could Roberts himself be a sodomite?  He certainly has that look about him.


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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 11:34:39 AM »
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  • Note: Trump didn't appoint Roberts; Bush did.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #3 on: June 29, 2020, 11:35:14 AM »
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  • And of course the foul Ginsberg just refused to die ... allegedly ... or it may have been a different decision.

    Yes, they need parental consent to give your kid Advil at school for a bad headache, but a minor can seek an abortion without any parental consent or knowledge.

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    Re: Trump's Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 11:40:19 AM »
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  • Note: Trump didn't appoint Roberts; Bush did.
    Thanks for the correction; I have edited the thread title accordingly.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #5 on: June 29, 2020, 04:07:19 PM »
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  • Thanks for the correction; I have edited the thread title accordingly.

    Seriously, why do some people (fanboys of Hugh Akins perhaps?) feel the need to EMBELLISH a headline?
    Did you actually think he was one of the Trump justices, or was that put in there "for good measure" because "Trump delenda est"?

    Why do the facts 
    "Tornado destroys two towns in Oklahoma" 
    have to become the headline 
    "Tornado destroys two towns in Oklahoma as Trump does nothing"
    With Trads like that, who needs the Fake News Media?

    I knew that Roberts wasn't one of the TWO justices appointed by Trump, and I only casually follow the news. Why do so many Trads/conservatives/Catholics with TDS feel the need to distort the facts about Trump? Why is there so much motivation to make Trump look as bad as possible? Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon would be proud.

    Anything to take out Trump, right? Even putting in a pure communist like Biden? The ends justify the means?
    It pisses me off to see the truth take a back seat to hatred-of-Trump. Especially when Trump has done so much good for Traditional Catholics.

    I will point out, again, that I will happily vote FOR Trump this November. I will also point out that out of the umpteen "conservative anti-Trumpers" I haven't heard a SINGLE ALTERNATIVE CANDIDATE other than "hide in your bunker and wait for the end".

    Sorry, but with all due respect that's a f***ing stupid idea. I'd rather vote for a candidate who will preserve SOME of God's order and laws rather than NONE of it/them.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 04:18:40 PM »
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  • P.S.

    I will also remind you of the stark fact that

    THERE ARE ONLY TWO SIDES.

    The communist, Marxists who want to see America burn -- tear America down so it can be rebuilt from scratch as a Satanic dystopia

    and

    The conservatives, whose current leader/champion is Trump

    You're either with Trump, or against him == which means on the side of the Marxists.

    I'm just stating the facts; stating "how it is". You can like it or lump it, but I'm right about this.

    If you aren't supporting Trump, then you are DE FACTO aiding and supporting the Marxists in their destruction of the last Christian vestiges of America. Congratulations Judas.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 04:29:32 PM »
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  • Even if Roberts was a Trump appointee, it’s not like Trump has any leverage to make Roberts vote in a specific direction.  Once Judges are confirmed, they are free to do what they want.  A president nominates the best candidate he knows (many times, you have to settle for the best candidate who can be confirmed) and then your job is done.  


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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 04:33:46 PM »
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  • Seriously, why do some people (fanboys of Hugh Akins perhaps?) feel the need to EMBELLISH a headline?
    Did you actually think he was one of the Trump justices, or was that put in there "for good measure" because "Trump delenda est"?

    Why do the facts
    "Tornado destroys two towns in Oklahoma"
    have to become the headline
    "Tornado destroys two towns in Oklahoma as Trump does nothing"
    With Trads like that, who needs the Fake News Media?

    I knew that Roberts wasn't one of the TWO justices appointed by Trump, and I only casually follow the news. Why do so many Trads/conservatives/Catholics with TDS feel the need to distort the facts about Trump? Why is there so much motivation to make Trump look as bad as possible? Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon would be proud.

    Anything to take out Trump, right? Even putting in a pure communist like Biden? The ends justify the means?
    It pisses me off to see the truth take a back seat to hatred-of-Trump. Especially when Trump has done so much good for Traditional Catholics.

    I will point out, again, that I will happily vote FOR Trump this November. I will also point out that out of the umpteen "conservative anti-Trumpers" I haven't heard a SINGLE ALTERNATIVE CANDIDATE other than "hide in your bunker and wait for the end".

    Sorry, but with all due respect that's a f***ing stupid idea. I'd rather vote for a candidate who will preserve SOME of God's order and laws rather than NONE of it/them.
    Yes, because I don’t pay much attention to liberal politics, I thought Trump appointed Roberts, but am wondering why you bothered with your emotional post after I had already admitted my mistake and changed the name of my thread (within the allotted edit window timeframe, yet CI did not make the change which I announced)?
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 04:53:39 PM »
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  • Yes, because I don’t pay much attention to liberal politics, I thought Trump appointed Roberts, but am wondering why you bothered with your emotional post after I had already admitted my mistake and changed the name of my thread (within the allotted edit window timeframe, yet CI did not make the change which I announced)?

    I'm just going to be very pissed if we end up with a communist dictatorship thanks to a bunch of naive, foolish Trads (as well as countless other "conservatives" who oppose Trump for whatever reason: his past personal sins, his support of Israel, etc.)

    And yes, am I emotional at the consideration of myself and my children growing up in a communist hellhole? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. Guilty as charged!

    If I could consider it coldly and dispassionately, I'd be nothing short of a psychopath.

    Not speaking about you in particular, just speaking out AND TAKING TO TASK whoever it applies to.

    I am more upset with Trads who take up the anti-Trump crusade, than I am with the actual Rachel Maddows and Don Lemons of the world. The latter are sodomites and foolishly addicted to vice and satan's "Do What Thou Wilt". Their whole lifestyle and beliefs demand that Trump be sent packing. Trads, however, are not thus committed to satan's kingdom on earth. Why do they oppose what is good?
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 05:13:54 PM »
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  • And yes, am I emotional at the consideration of myself and my children growing up in a communist hellhole? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. Guilty as charged!
    I do believe a Communist hellhole is likely coming soon, unless Trump declares himself a dictator, or if a civil war happens and after millions of people die, the right wins and establishes a right wing dictatorship. There are more liberals than conservatives in this country and the number of liberals is growing while the number of conservatives is shrinking. All of the institutions are controlled by the left or by turncoats. We do not even have the Catholic Church on our side anymore.

    Why did this happen? In my opinion, the leading factor was onanism.
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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 05:35:44 PM »
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  • If I were to follow the Do what thou wilt narrative, it would end up with the death of Democrats, sodomites et al.

    And if they cry "That is not what we meant!"
    and I would reply "Tell that to your lord and master Satan."

    But we leave vengeance to Our Lord God. :incense:
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    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

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    « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2020, 05:45:03 PM »
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    There are more liberals than conservatives in this country and the number of liberals is growing while the number of conservatives is shrinking. All of the institutions are controlled by the left or by turncoats. 
    True the extreme commie/Masonic liberals control most institutions, as Our Lady of Good Success foretold.  But conservatives far, far, FAR outnumber them.  It only appears the left has the numbers advantage because of the fake media, leftist Hollywood and neo-con politicians. 

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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2020, 06:36:39 PM »
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  • I do believe a Communist hellhole is likely coming soon, unless Trump declares himself a dictator, or if a civil war happens and after millions of people die, the right wins and establishes a right wing dictatorship. There are more liberals than conservatives in this country and the number of liberals is growing while the number of conservatives is shrinking. All of the institutions are controlled by the left or by turncoats. We do not even have the Catholic Church on our side anymore.

    Why did this happen? In my opinion, the leading factor was onanism.
    Are you referring to contraception, or the more commonly understood definition of onanism?  (It's really the same thing, except that contraception is mutual onanism.)

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    Re: Justice Roberts Strikes Again: Sides with Dems on Abortion
    « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2020, 06:48:10 PM »
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  • You're either with Trump, or against him == which means on the side of the Marxists.

    Not buying it.  I'm not with either of them.  If I were to vote for Trump, it would be based on the principle of double effect only.

    Have you looked into the Hegelian dialectic at all?  We're being manipulated.

    We see the same dialectic at play among Traditional Catholics.  Either you're R&R or you're sedevacantist.  How about maybe both sides have some things right and both have some wrong?



     

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