The biggest destructive tendency most Traditional Catholics have is failure to believe all infallibly defined dogmas of Holy Mother Church without innovations attached.

Is it just me, or do many trads have self-destructive tendencies in interpersonal relationships, even among other trads?  What I mean is that I've seen many people who go out of their way to make themselves be rejected by others.  Whether it is being contrary, unpleasant, or openly hostile.  Crossbro's latest thread asking people to vote him off the forum is a perfect example of this.  I'm not aware of anyone asking him to leave, he just took it upon himself to see if people will reject him.

I understand that many trads expect to be rejected by the world, because our values are increasingly contrary to the values of mainstream culture, and Our Lord warned us that it would be so.  However, that does not mean that we should seek out rejection (for lack of a better term), particularly from those whom we share the Faith with.  I fear this is where the "home-aloners" come from; they reject or seek rejection from others, and continually narrow their circle of family and friends, until they conclude they are the only true Catholic left on the planet.

A very interesting question.  Regarding the forum, are there more melancholic personalities that may tend toward this?   And is it more common with men vs woman?   Isn't the tendency toward self sabotage fear related?

Also because trads are ever aware of the battle being waged, tend to be more serious (and we should be), does it go to the psychology of family; i.e., (sadly) we tend to take out our frustrations of the world on those we care for?  

I don't know.  But in all things, charity should prevail.  Honest examinations of conscience should reveal self destructive actions, and the "why", or a good confessor can assist.

I know people who fit that profile, but they don't end up home alone. It is their way out of practicing the Faith, you are just seeing a part of the process. The individual you have mentioned stated once or twice that he is basically no longer a Catholic.

I'm not a home aloner, and I've never been one, but the bulk of where they came from is another story. It mainly has to do with how families in the 70s and early 80s responded to the crisis, when things were not as clear and information was not readily available. The majority do keep the Faith and Catholic practices in the home, whereas the type of person you describe does not. I know that is a tangent, but I think a mention should be made of the difference.

I think sometimes we might all give in to a little teasing or joking now and then, and maybe have a youthful spirit but some still exercise completely childish, selfish behavior their whole lives. It is hard to tell by an Internet forum and I certainly don't pretend to walk in their shoes, but I also think immaturity plays a big part, whether it stems from a fault or not having been tested.

Who careth?

Some of us live in battlegrounds versus atheists and whores where we have to reject others for survival. This carries on into this forum because according to some, you never know who is posting on here. You get abuse from people on the internet, then you meet them in person and are the best of friends. That is how Catholics work, this is entertainment for us.

Strictly speaking, we should all be offline saying the Rosary because:
1 We are lukewarm and spurn sacrafice and penance
2 The state ZOG secret service devil worshipers and others are spying on us via the net where we stupidly talk about all things where everyone can see.

Actually, good points here SG.
But we should care.  St. Paul gave us many instructions to care for each other (Christians), including correction.
It's all in the presentation, isn't it?  We pridefully lash out at those who do not use tact when admonishing us.  Better to learn from the correction (if true) or humbly bearing the insult without causing the other harm.  ah well, even we trads have much to learn about charity.

I like #1, and will sign off for the evening to do so.  It is a Lenten Friday after all - thank you.
#2 - excellent reminder.  

I have not noticed that, at least not in the "real" world among the flesh and blood.  There are certainly people in the world who behave in such a manner but I've not seen in among Catholics, regardless of whether they self-identify as traditional, conservative, or liberal.

Marsha

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The biggest destructive tendency most Traditional Catholics have is failure to believe all infallibly defined dogmas of Holy Mother Church without innovations attached.

Could you give some examples please?  I've always thought that Traditional Catholics are those who UPhold the dogmas, not those who ignore them.

Marsha

There are bad-willed Catholics and good-willed Catholics. Some Traditional Catholics choose to believe there is salvation outside the Catholic Church because they do not want to believe they have family members and relative on the road to hell.

but he converted to Christ before he died...