Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 14

Author Topic: Trads raising feminist daughters  (Read 17237 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Online jen51

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1837
  • Reputation: +1914/-70
  • Gender: Female
Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2018, 07:25:07 PM »
  • Thanks!3
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Cantarella on July 05, 2018, 06:16:34 PM
    Because the Church teaches so and the Church knows best.

    I have posted several Papal teachings in this regard in the other thread. The realm of woman (most especially if she is a wife and a mother), is home.

    Contrary to modern and feminist belief, it is physically impossible to be in two places at the same time. How is a woman supposed to make home and tend the children, if she is outside?
    I think the confusion among trads on this point is the question on wether it's ok to work outside of the home after being married but before children. Most agree that working outside the home with children is a no-no, but see no problem with doing it before the first child comes along. 
    My husband settled that question before it even became one when we were engaged. He made it clear that I was not to work outside the home once we were married, even if we were so unfortunate as to not be able to have kids for some reason. I was so relieved! It gave me every opportunity to be single minded on making the home. 
    Logged
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

    Offline Smedley Butler

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1334
    • Reputation: +551/-1531
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #121 on: July 05, 2018, 07:26:59 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 04:48:45 PM
    What is "the model"? Could you be more specific?

    "The model" of feminism is simply unchastity. Could this thread be titled "Trads raising unchaste daughters"? Is that what you're trying say?
    The model is for women in the workplace. Unchastity is a byproduct. 
    Logged

    Online Geremia

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4678
    • Reputation: +1519/-360
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #122 on: July 05, 2018, 07:33:42 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: happenby on July 05, 2018, 05:49:29 PM
    If the couple has no children, it may be acceptable at first as the wife winds down in the outside world and moves to a greater vocation.  However, the chastity issue exists in that case.
    Yes, a wife should not be in the male-dominated workforce because it's placing herself in an occasion of sin against chastity.
    Logged
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co

    Online Geremia

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4678
    • Reputation: +1519/-360
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #123 on: July 05, 2018, 07:35:25 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 05, 2018, 05:43:16 PM
    Are you kidding? ?
    I'm not letting my kids be raised by daycare workers so my wife can work!
    Are you crazy?  Children belong with their mothers.
    Just because I ask the question means I think wives should work outside the home?
    I was pleased to see two answers: (1) it separates mothers/children and (2) it's an occasion of sins against chastity.
    Are there other reasons?
    Logged
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46349
    • Reputation: +27285/-5038
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #124 on: July 05, 2018, 07:36:07 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 05, 2018, 07:07:05 PM
    Who would have thought?
    :cheers:

    Just don't post about flat earth, and you're good.
    Logged

    Offline SusanneT

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 305
    • Reputation: +144/-27
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #125 on: July 05, 2018, 07:39:22 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 07:35:25 PM
    Just because I ask the question means I think wives should work outside the home?
    I was pleased to see two answers: (1) it separates mothers/children and (2) it's an occasion of sins against chastity.
    Are there other reasons?
    It puts the woman under the authority of someone other than her husband. 
    Logged

    Offline SusanneT

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 305
    • Reputation: +144/-27
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #126 on: July 05, 2018, 07:44:03 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: jen51 on July 05, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
    I think the confusion among trads on this point is the question on wether it's ok to work outside of the home after being married but before children. Most agree that working outside the home with children is a no-no, but see no problem with doing it before the first child comes along.
    My husband settled that question before it even became one when we were engaged. He made it clear that I was not to work outside the home once we were married, even if we were so unfortunate as to not be able to have kids for some reason. I was so relieved! It gave me every opportunity to be single minded on making the home.
    My husband said the same. 
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46349
    • Reputation: +27285/-5038
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #127 on: July 05, 2018, 07:50:14 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
    Yes, a wife should not be in the male-dominated workforce because it's placing herself in an occasion of sin against chastity.

    It's no longer male-dominated, but if I recall the stats are nearly 50-50.  I even see women working on construction crews ... much less in offices.  Consequently, one could say that men are just as much in an occasion of sin.  Honestly, though, occasion of sin is subjective.  I am not the least bit tempted by any women in the workplace and never have been, so it's not even a remote occasion of sin for me.
    Logged

    Offline Vintagewife3

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 700
    • Reputation: +331/-356
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #128 on: July 05, 2018, 07:51:58 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: happenby on July 05, 2018, 06:57:38 PM
    Feminists think house and family isn't enough?  Why would a woman take on her responsibilities, then take on the man's also?  Go to work, Sir, I'm not doing your work too, I got the kids and the house.  
    Girl, preach it 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼


    I know a family where the mother started going to school/working when the kids needed her most. She has 3 children, I married the eldest son. Her second son has a severe drug addiction, and lived a life of horrors until starting to recover. Concerning her daughter I think Satan makes better company compared to her. The only one she was home for most of his years was my husband. The other two not so much. The family also sent both kids away to college. My husband paid his own way through trade school, but the younger two had always had things handed to them. The daughter is vicious if she doesn’t get what she wants. So my two cents is moms belong at home.
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46349
    • Reputation: +27285/-5038
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #129 on: July 05, 2018, 07:53:51 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Jaynek on July 05, 2018, 02:08:07 PM
    :applause:
    Yes, that's it exactly.  It is extremely difficult to uproot feminism when it invades our souls.

    Bishop Williamson has said the same thing about liberalism and Modernism, saying that we're all infected to varying degrees ... and he explicitly included himself.
    Logged

    Online Geremia

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4678
    • Reputation: +1519/-360
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #130 on: July 05, 2018, 08:13:08 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: SusanneT on July 05, 2018, 07:39:22 PM
    It puts the woman under the authority of someone other than her husband.
    Wives are under the authority of their priests, too, aren't they?
    Logged
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co

    Offline TxTrad

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 285
    • Reputation: +117/-255
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #131 on: July 05, 2018, 09:47:18 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 08:13:08 PM
    Wives are under the authority of their priests, too, aren't they?
    The fourth commandment applies to your parents, then to all other people in authority over you.
    .
    The requirement of a wife being under the authority of her husband is stronger than the fourth commandment because she made a vow to God to love, honor and obey her husband.
    Logged

    Offline Cantarella

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 7782
    • Reputation: +4579/-579
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #132 on: July 05, 2018, 11:51:52 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
    It's no longer male-dominated, but if I recall the stats are nearly 50-50.  I even see women working on construction crews ... much less in offices.








    Logged
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

    Offline Cantarella

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 7782
    • Reputation: +4579/-579
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #133 on: July 06, 2018, 12:17:57 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Vintagewife3 on July 05, 2018, 07:51:58 PM
    Girl, preach it 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼


    I know a family where the mother started going to school/working when the kids needed her most. She has 3 children, I married the eldest son. Her second son has a severe drug addiction, and lived a life of horrors until starting to recover. Concerning her daughter I think Satan makes better company compared to her. The only one she was home for most of his years was my husband. The other two not so much. The family also sent both kids away to college. My husband paid his own way through trade school, but the younger two had always had things handed to them. The daughter is vicious if she doesn’t get what she wants. So my two cents is moms belong at home.

    I really believe that many of the senseless evil we see in the world today, is due to the lack of motherly affection in the formative years.

    And actually, this human need for motherly affection seems to go beyond childhood and stay with us, even unto old age.

    The worth of a good mother is unsurpassable; just as the misconduct of a bad one can be quite destructive.
    Logged
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

    Offline poche

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16729
    • Reputation: +1224/-4690
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #134 on: July 06, 2018, 02:12:17 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!2
    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 03, 2018, 08:22:43 AM
    On the other thread,  Jaynek said Trads are "subtly influenced" by feminism.

    I will say it is MUCH worse than this.

    I see Trads raising feminist daughters.

    Examples:

    Science and university attendence emphasized by stay-at-home mothers.

    Female graduates who came from homes with many children stating they "don't want kids. "


    And the mothers viewing that as NORMAL.

    If you spent the last 20 years in the home fulfilling God's female role raising your children and they reject motherhood, you have failed!

    Worse, if you think your daughter wanting to go be a scientist and not have kids is okay, YOU ARE A FEMINIST.
    I think that science and university attendance by girls can be a good thing. As for any female graduate who came home and said, "I don't want kids." I would recommend that she look into religious life, maybe a teaching order.   
    Logged
    Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 14
    « previous next »